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    2009.08.21 Motions hearing #2

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    I added these here for reference & discussion for everyone!

    Hearing For August 21, 2009

    HEARING VIDEO: Part 1
    http://www.wftv.com/video/20492642/index.html

    HEARING VIDEO: Part 2
    http://www.wftv.com/video/20493321/index.html

    HEARING VIDEO: Part 3
    http://www.wftv.com/video/20493513/index.html

    HEARING VIDEO: Part 4
    http://www.wftv.com/video/20493801/index.html

    HEARING VIDEO: Part 5
    http://www.wftv.com/video/20494264/index.html


    CASEY GETS EMOTIONAL: Tears Shed By Casey
    http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/20492438/detail.html

    CASEY ARRIVES: See Images
    http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/20491513/detail.html

    CASEY ARRIVES: Raw Video
    http://www.wftv.com/video/20491706/index.html

    INSIDE COURTROOM: See Images
    http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/20491889/detail.html

    GEORGE, CINDY IN COURT: See Images
    http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/20491731/detail.html

    UNCUT VIDEO: George Anthony Testifies
    http://www.wesh.com/video/20492953/index.html

    Images: Casey Anthony In Court On Aug. 21
    http://www.wesh.com/slideshow/news/20492612/detail.html

    VIDEO: Casey Anthony Returns To Court
    http://www.wesh.com/video/20490034/index.html

    Article:
    http://www.wesh.com/news/20489546/detail.html



    Added Motions For Reference!

    MOTIONS: Renewed Motion to Compel Bench Notes, Standards, Data, and Communications with Law Enforcement
    http://www.wftv.com/pdf/20483047/detail.html

    MOTION: Casey's Objection
    http://www.wftv.com/pdf/20344261/detail.html

    MOTION: To Certify Witness
    http://www.wftv.com/pdf/20344194/detail.html

    MOTION: Protective Order
    http://www.wftv.com/pdf/20344147/detail.html

    Mark NeJame's Filed On Behalf For Tim Miller Of TES
    DOCUMENT: NeJame Motion To Deny Request For EquuSearch's Records
    http://www.wftv.com/pdf/20480558/detail.html

    DOCUMENT: NeJame Letter To Defense Regarding EquuSearch
    http://www.wftv.com/pdf/20480499/detail.html

    Motion Regarding Anthony Lazzaro's Cell Phone Records
    MOTION: Regarding Lazzaro
    http://www.wftv.com/pdf/20483132/detail.htm


    Thanks to Angel Who Cares for the links!
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    PLease continue here.
    But, please stop the name calling, it is not allowed and degrades the thread.
    Also, references to what KC looks like and how she is wearing with the case is fine. But referring to her physical appearance any more than that just isn't what this is all about. So ,please refrain. Thanks.

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    Hi SWAG1959,
    I do too! That is a definite flip.It reminded me of GA's accusation during the Morgan depo,also. I wonder if that's something they do in the A family and therefore look for it in others.
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    I think Casey was mad at George for wearing the big Caylee button and that is why she gave him the finger while he was on the stand. In her mind she is thinking how dare he wear that knowing any normal mother would break down at the site of that in court and she wanted to appear calm and in control GA threw a wrench in by wearing the button.

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    Quote Originally Posted by princess View Post
    I think Casey was mad at George for wearing the big Caylee button and that is why she gave him the finger while he was on the stand. In her mind she is thinking how dare he wear that knowing any normal mother would break down at the site of that in court and she wanted to appear calm and in control GA threw a wrench in by wearing the button.
    It's all about Caylee. He came to her hearing wearing a Caylee button.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mysteriew View Post
    It's all about Caylee. He came to her hearing wearing a Caylee button.
    I just wished he behaved himself!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RR0004 View Post
    I just wished he behaved himself!
    Impossible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mysteriew View Post
    It's all about Caylee. He came to her hearing wearing a Caylee button.
    As he should. But in Casey's mind it is all about her not getting the death penalty.

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    Judge Strickland didn't give any time-lines for his final rulings on the motions did he?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mysteriew View Post
    It's all about Caylee. He came to her hearing wearing a Caylee button.
    IMO it's all about George and his desire to present himself in the best possible light as a strong advocate for Caylee (and all missing children, think KFN and CMA Foundation). I wish he would just lose the button and speak the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mysteriew View Post
    It's all about Caylee. He came to her hearing wearing a Caylee button.
    Too bad she doesn't realize he always wears it (tv interviews, court, etc). I don't think though that when the trial starts he'll be allowed to, right? MOO
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExpectingUnicorns View Post
    Judge Strickland didn't give any time-lines for his final rulings on the motions did he?
    I don't believe so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExpectingUnicorns View Post
    Judge Strickland didn't give any time-lines for his final rulings on the motions did he?
    No, the only timeline I heard was 30 days for AT&T to produce phone records of TonE's.

    I'm thinking we'll hear Monday or Tuesday.
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    I didn't see the motions hearing because I'm in California and three hours behind time-wise and overslept. I didn't get a chance to read the first thread either as I was looking at the photos of the hearing, and watching the video clips from the hearing. So far have only viewed George's testimony and Cindy's comments after the hearing.

    My impression from what little I've seen is that George still has the same arrogant attitude he had at the depositions, although he kept his anger in check. There was one point where I saw his short temper briefly rise to the surface, but he didn't let it boil over. That was when the judge was clarifying a question during the prosecution's questioning. I didn't like the smirks George was giving, and I know a jury isn't going to like that either.

    I noted that George seemed to dance around the questions. He knows darn well that LP, TP, TMc, and RD were not there as security for his family because of the protesters. He knows that LP paid $50,000 to bond his daughter out of jail on the premise that LP, a bounty hunter, would try to find Caylee. George is trying to re-write history.

    My impression of Casey is that she doesn't look good physically. She's lost weight and has a bedraggled look. I noted bags under her eyes. I don't know what to make of her emotions........I didn't see any real tears.

    As for Cindy's comments after the hearing. I think she's reading way too much into Casey's response. Casey misses her freedom and seeing her dad reminds her of the freedom she had before all this. If she has any regrets, it's for herself. Cindy sees love...........Casey sees "I had it good when I was living with my parents."

    Fridays are my busy days and I hope I can get back here later and catch up with the hearing and everyone's observations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by princess View Post
    I think Casey was mad at George for wearing the big Caylee button and that is why she gave him the finger while he was on the stand. In her mind she is thinking how dare he wear that knowing any normal mother would break down at the site of that in court and she wanted to appear calm and in control GA threw a wrench in by wearing the button.
    Bolded respectfully by me.

    I think your first sentence is right on target and I didn't think about it that way. Thanks.

    IMHO she probably gave him the finger (especially after we saw the drama of the GA depo and his accusations that the lawyer was giving him the middle finger while he pushed up his glasses) because he had the Caylee button on. He didn't have his KC support button on like her Mama always wears. Tsk Tsk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RR0004 View Post
    I just wished he behaved himself!
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    Not gonna happen.

    Adult bx is not an issue, apparently. :-(
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kat View Post
    Bolded respectfully by me.

    I think your first sentence is right on target and I didn't think about it that way. Thanks.

    IMHO she probably gave him the finger (especially after we saw the drama of the GA depo and his accusations that the lawyer was giving him the middle finger while he pushed up his glasses) because he had the Caylee button on. He didn't have his KC support button on like her Mama always wears. Tsk Tsk.
    Bad George! BAD!;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leila View Post
    I didn't see the motions hearing because I'm in California and three hours behind time-wise and overslept. I didn't get a chance to read the first thread either as I was looking at the photos of the hearing, and watching the video clips from the hearing. So far have only viewed George's testimony and Cindy's comments after the hearing.

    My impression from what little I've seen is that George still has the same arrogant attitude he had at the depositions, although he kept his anger in check. There was one point where I saw his short temper briefly rise to the surface, but he didn't let it boil over. That was when the judge was clarifying a question during the prosecution's questioning. I didn't like the smirks George was giving, and I know a jury isn't going to like that either.

    I noted that George seemed to dance around the questions. He knows darn well that LP, TP, TMc, and RD were not there as security for his family because of the protesters. He knows that LP paid $50,000 to bond his daughter out of jail on the premise that LP, a bounty hunter, would try to find Caylee. George is trying to re-write history.

    My impression of Casey is that she doesn't look good physically. She's lost weight and has a bedraggled look. I noted bags under her eyes. I don't know what to make of her emotions........I didn't see any real tears.

    As for Cindy's comments after the hearing. I think she's reading way too much into Casey's response. Casey misses her freedom and seeing her dad reminds her of the freedom she had before all this. If she has any regrets, it's for herself. Cindy sees love...........Casey sees "I had it good when I was living with my parents."

    Fridays are my busy days and I hope I can get back here later and catch up with the hearing and everyone's observations.
    Dead on, Leila!
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    Quote Originally Posted by princess View Post
    I think Casey was mad at George for wearing the big Caylee button and that is why she gave him the finger while he was on the stand. In her mind she is thinking how dare he wear that knowing any normal mother would break down at the site of that in court and she wanted to appear calm and in control GA threw a wrench in by wearing the button.
    And what is the point of wearing that pin?? Caylee wasn't a missing child, there's a mountain of evidence that Casey did it, and all the while George is trying to cover for Casey by being evasive. It makes no sense.

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    I don't think that KC gave GA the finger, at least it doesn't look that way to me. I think it is her usual spastic way of using her hands and fingers. She must have had a hell of a time with that duct tape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExpectingUnicorns View Post
    Judge Strickland didn't give any time-lines for his final rulings on the motions did he?
    I heard on the news (CNN) that he was going to rule next week...on what, they didn't say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leila View Post
    I didn't see the motions hearing because I'm in California and three hours behind time-wise and overslept. I didn't get a chance to read the first thread either as I was looking at the photos of the hearing, and watching the video clips from the hearing. So far have only viewed George's testimony and Cindy's comments after the hearing.

    My impression from what little I've seen is that George still has the same arrogant attitude he had at the depositions, although he kept his anger in check. There was one point where I saw his short temper briefly rise to the surface, but he didn't let it boil over. That was when the judge was clarifying a question during the prosecution's questioning. I didn't like the smirks George was giving, and I know a jury isn't going to like that either.

    I noted that George seemed to dance around the questions. He knows darn well that LP, TP, TMc, and RD were not there as security for his family because of the protesters. He knows that LP paid $50,000 to bond his daughter out of jail on the premise that LP, a bounty hunter, would try to find Caylee. George is trying to re-write history.

    My impression of Casey is that she doesn't look good physically. She's lost weight and has a bedraggled look. I noted bags under her eyes. I don't know what to make of her emotions........I didn't see any real tears.

    As for Cindy's comments after the hearing. I think she's reading way too much into Casey's response. Casey misses her freedom and seeing her dad reminds her of the freedom she had before all this. If she has any regrets, it's for herself. Cindy sees love...........Casey sees "I had it good when I was living with my parents."

    Fridays are my busy days and I hope I can get back here later and catch up with the hearing and everyone's observations.
    But at the time before Padilla bailed Casey out, wasn't the big, huge issue that Casey HAD to be out of jail to 'help find Caylee' and if she could just get bailed out, then she would help padilla find her? It's not as if Baez was fair or upfront about things, because he pulled the rug out from under Padilla, as I understand it, by telling Casey not to communicate with them. At any rate, she did nothing to help find Caylee and I think Baez refused to pay the nominal 1$ fee to have him as Padilla's agent or work-product, etc.

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    Can someone please explain to me WHY this is going to take another year? I get that everyone has busy schedules, but we already have Todd M. stating there was no evidence...so obviously they have their "experts" to attest to that...how long does it take to make up a story?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexington View Post
    I don't think that KC gave GA the finger, at least it doesn't look that way to me. I think it is her usual spastic way of using her hands and fingers. She must have had a hell of a time with that duct tape.

    Knowing what I know and have read in regards to how the entire A family interprets hand gestures and the accusations made by A family that others have used hand gestures toward them during Depo's and other proceedings, I will have to respectfully disagree and say that she did flip him off.

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    When AL continued to press for the entire (4,000+) pieces of data on the TES volunteers (instead of the 32 who may have been in the Suburban area) it confirmed my theory that their main defense will be to try to poke holes in everything they're given. I can just imagine them combing through the records to try to find someone who searched in a place other than where they were assigned, incomplete records or looking for inadequate general accountability of volunteers. Finding any errors would allow them to question TES's accuracy about who actually had access to the discovery area.

    All the facts and evidence are against them so they will have to attack the procedures and accuracy of each detail. No wonder they don't have a minute to spare to prepare for the fraudulent check trial!!!
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