I really am not sure.
I really am not sure.
I guess it depends on who you ask, Roy. It's possible that they did and Alex Hunter didn't pursue it. Indeed, Henry Lee said in an interview that he urged Hunter NOT to go ahead with an indictment. Barry Scheck said the same thing.
After that, it gets murky. One theme that seems to crop up, regardless of who you talk to, is that the DA's office did not want to convene a GJ and felt forced to do so in the wake of ST's resignation letter. Various sources mention how key witnesses were not called, how the GJ only met for a few days every month, and how people who were more inclined to believe a parent couldn't do this to their child were chosen as jurors.
One thing's sure: the DA's office has had quite an interest in making sure that no one can ever see the records of the Grand Jury. Makes you wonder what it is they don't want us to see, doesn't it?
For my money, the Grand Jury was nothing more than a dog-and-pony show. And the doberman never arrived.
Hey SD.
"It's possible they did [indict] and Alex Hunter didn't persue it" - SD
Gee SD, that's the first I've heard of that possibility. I have always been under the impression that the testimony and evidence did not meet that threshold,
What leads you to entertain that possibilty?
I guess it depends on who you ask, Roy. It's possible that they did and Alex Hunter didn't pursue it. Indeed, Henry Lee said in an interview that he urged Hunter NOT to go ahead with an indictment. Barry Scheck said the same thing.
After that, it gets murky. One theme that seems to crop up, regardless of who you talk to, is that the DA's office did not want to convene a GJ and felt forced to do so in the wake of ST's resignation letter. Various sources mention how key witnesses were not called, how the GJ only met for a few days every month, and how people who were more inclined to believe a parent couldn't do this to their child were chosen as jurors.
One thing's sure: the DA's office has had quite an interest in making sure that no one can ever see the records of the Grand Jury. Makes you wonder what it is they don't want us to see, doesn't it?
For my money, the Grand Jury was nothing more than a dog-and-pony show. And the doberman never arrived.
How do you do the cutting up of a response and make comments.
I am about to teach you RDI's a lesson.
Not that I say your theory is wrong but GJ thing needs my expertise. And I will tell you why the DA did not pursue.
I guess it depends on who you ask, Roy. It's possible that they did and Alex Hunter didn't pursue it. Indeed, Henry Lee said in an interview that he urged Hunter NOT to go ahead with an indictment. Barry Scheck said the same thing.
After that, it gets murky. One theme that seems to crop up, regardless of who you talk to, is that the DA's office did not want to convene a GJ and felt forced to do so in the wake of ST's resignation letter. Various sources mention how key witnesses were not called, how the GJ only met for a few days every month, and how people who were more inclined to believe a parent couldn't do this to their child were chosen as jurors.
One thing's sure: the DA's office has had quite an interest in making sure that no one can ever see the records of the Grand Jury. Makes you wonder what it is they don't want us to see, doesn't it?
For my money, the Grand Jury was nothing more than a dog-and-pony show. And the doberman never arrived.
I guess it depends on who you ask, Roy. It's possible that they did and Alex Hunter didn't pursue it. Indeed, Henry Lee said in an interview that he urged Hunter NOT to go ahead with an indictment. Barry Scheck said the same thing.
After that, it gets murky. One theme that seems to crop up, regardless of who you talk to, is that the DA's office did not want to convene a GJ and felt forced to do so in the wake of ST's resignation letter. Various sources mention how key witnesses were not called, how the GJ only met for a few days every month, and how people who were more inclined to believe a parent couldn't do this to their child were chosen as jurors.
One thing's sure: the DA's office has had quite an interest in making sure that no one can ever see the records of the Grand Jury. Makes you wonder what it is they don't want us to see, doesn't it?
For my money, the Grand Jury was nothing more than a dog-and-pony show. And the doberman never arrived.
Just put quote tags () around the line you want to isolate.
I tried on my own to do it but messed it up. You can read it but no quotes.
I promise that I didn't set you up. I really did not know the final result to the GJ, I guess because no one does. I am actually shocked because I always assumed that the GJ served an indictment. From what I read today, they didn't.
Proud words.
That promises to get interesting. But there's ONE thing that bothers me. If your expertise affords you the answer, then why did you say you weren't sure in the first place?
That is entirely possible. But it seems like prosecution witnesses felt like it was a real bad idea.
Because the DA believed to win a case, he needed more evidence. And he was right. He believed the Ramsey's were under an "umbrella of suspicion" but knew the evidence did not cut the mustard. Thanks, Steve.
Police officers were called and testified for multiple hours. As were some of the top experts in their field that you mentioned above.
And let me tell you that in hour terms they met more than 95% of time than any other murder case. The reason they dragged it out is because the prosecution dragged it out the whole year so hopefully they could get something more damning.
As far as Jury pool, this is the most ridiculous claim that I have learned yet. I read the profiles of the GJ and that is total BS.
And for GJ, it doesn't matter anyway because they didn't have enough Ham.
I hope you RDI's aren't gonna claim that, but yeah they might have served an indictment because if they didn't ---you dude's and dame's have been ridiculous criticising the DA.
No, it doesn't make me wonder at all. If they did, they would hurt this case even more. And especially if the Ramsey's were guilty. Dave, please, you have to understand that. And do you want more John Mark Karr's.
This case already has enough nuts as it is.
The truth is that Mr. Hunter felt that one of the Ramsey's were guilty but his collegues and best witnesses advised him otherwise.
He was forced in the courtroom and dragged out the whole year that they were entitled to. Sure, he could have indicted anyway and maybe got that confession that you wanted.
If he didn't and they subsequently got enough to convict, double jeopardy would have come into play and then he would be the piece of crap that you describe he is now.
Game, Set, Match. Before responding, I want you RDI's to think about all of this.
I promise that I didn't set you up. I really did not know the final result to the GJ, I guess because no one does.
I am actually shocked because I always assumed that the GJ served an indictment. From what I read today, they didn't.
Dave,
For someone who has studied so much, you are a snake oil salesman. Deal with it. You answers and tone prove it. The GJ of all types of different people could not get an indictment. If they did, you would know. A Ramsey may be guilty, Hunter was a plea deal guy, but you, sir, have read so much BS that your arrogance shows you don't understand what you speak.
Good Day, Pilgrim.
Let me know if you want to talk Logically.
If I were a juror, I would note the lack of evidence that would unequivocally link a parent to the crime.
Since the parent lived there, and since they naturally handled JBR the previous day and naturally handled her that morning also, they are obviously going to be linked to the crime scene, but not to the crime itself.
They needed something to tie them to the crime itself, and that something just wasn't there. There's two explanations for this. Either the parents did it without leaving unequivocal evidence, or the parents didn't do it.
Again if I were a juror I would think about the cord. Brand new cord freshly cut from a roll they cant find, without a single innocent use for the same cord found anywhere in the house. And its the same story with the tape.
Hey SD
That the Rs weren`t called, couldn`t that have been part of the prosecutions overall strategy. That, as presented, the DA went with the strengths of what the case evidence could provide.
I don't recall seeing anywhere that the cord around her neck was freshly cut from a brand-new roll. But if it was, it points even more to being the item on the R receipt from McGuckins' Hardware showing purchases of the exact amount and from the exact department as the tape and cord. The fact that it never was found doesn't really bother me. PLENTY of places to hide something so small. The golf bag (never checked by LE and removed from the home by PP). And the pockets of the (unsearched) winter coats worn by the R as they left the home that night.
If I were a juror, I would note the lack of evidence that would unequivocally link a parent to the crime.
Since the parent lived there, and since they naturally handled JBR the previous day and naturally handled her that morning also, they are obviously going to be linked to the crime scene, but not to the crime itself.
They needed something to tie them to the crime itself, and that something just wasn't there. There's two explanations for this. Either the parents did it without leaving unequivocal evidence, or the parents didn't do it.
Again if I were a juror I would think about the cord. Brand new cord freshly cut from a roll they cant find, without a single innocent use for the same cord found anywhere in the house. And its the same story with the tape.
Dave,
For someone who has studied so much, you are a snake oil salesman. Deal with it. You answers and tone prove it.
The GJ of all types of different people could not get an indictment. If they did, you would know.
A Ramsey may be guilty, Hunter was a plea deal guy,
Dave is suggesting that the prosecution tampered the jury pool of minorities and all demographic types in a case that they needed next to nothing to indict.
but you, sir, have read so much BS that your arrogance shows you don't understand what you speak.
Good Day, Pilgrim.
Let me know if you want to talk Logically.