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    CA - Hasanni Jamil Campbell - TIMELINE - ***NO DISCUSSION***

    Please post whatever information we have concerning the timeline of events in this case here. Be sure and include links to the source of this information for reference.

    Shall we start with the beginning in the am or would you prefer to work backward from the 911 call?


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    I'd prefer to work from the AM, the 1st bit of info that is absolutely certain.

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    I had to add links to info. Still looking for link on how I knew some of this. Don't suppose I could just put Hasanni Campbell / Websleuth threads 1-3?

    TIMELINE (based on media reports so maybe not FACT)

    DATE/TIME Unknown – Hasanni wanders to Karl Nordvik Park, a few blocks from his house, by himself.

    July 31, 2009, 9:50 a.m. – Jennifer Campbell receives text message from Louis Ross "This is f- over, I will watch her but he will be out on the BART and its your responsibility to hey (sic) him so f- you," http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...MN9419BA1A.DTL Ross later said this text was in relation to something that had happened a year ago, he was ending the relationship, and he was going to meet Jennifer Campbell at the BART station, not that he was leaving Hasanni to ride it himself. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...MN9419BA1A.DTL

    August 6, 2009 – Hasanni Campbell seen at family event.

    August 10, 2009, 8:30-9 a.m. – Jennifer Campbell arrives at Shuz, 6012 College Avenue. http://www.ktvu.com/news/20467597/detail.html (video of Shuz; ick -- OT, but no law about trying on shoes with no socks?) http://www.getfave.com/locations/13753737-shuz-of-rockridge

    August 10, 2009, Unknown Time – Louis Ross goes to bank (maybe Bank of America: need link) and leaves both children at home.

    August 10, 2009, Unknown AM – Louis Ross goes to salvage yard with Hasanni. "... two workers at an auto salvage yard in Hayward reported seeing Ross and Hasanni in the BMW that same morning" http://www.getfave.com/locations/13753737-shuz-of-rockridge LR either stayed in the car http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...BAB5199Q74.DTL OR got out and looked around. Not sure whether Aaliyah was with him/them.

    August 10, 2009, 4:15 p.m. – Hasanni Campbell at rear entrance to Shuz. Louis Ross said he left him in the car http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime...ssani-Campbell OR left him at the car http://www.insidebayarea.com/oakland...ws/ci_13036933 OR taking one step toward the door http://www.blackamericaweb.com/?q=ar...s/11815&page=6 OR left him at the door while he (LR) went around the front of the store to get Jennifer to open the door.

    August 10, 2009, 4:18 p.m. – 911 call by Louis Ross to report Hasanni Campbell missing. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,539327,00.html (LR was one who placed call) http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...BAB5199Q74.DTL (references 4:18 p.m. time)

    August 12, 2009 – Fremont police and Alameda County search and rescue teams combed Karl Nordvic Park and the surrounding area in North Fremont hunting for Hassani. http://www.mercurynews.com/breakingnews/ci_13045028

    August 15, 2009 – Coyote Hills Regional Park searched. http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/video?id=6967136 Nothing found (as reported).


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    Hey Noway....can you add What time Jennifer got to work on August 10th in there. I like yours, it's purdy. She got to work between 8:30 and 9. I'll go find the link.



    ETA: for Noways timeline

    http://www.ktvu.com/news/20467597/detail.html

    KTVU also learned that the boy's foster mother Jennifer Campbell arrived at the shoe store where she works sometime between 8:30 a.m. and 9 a.m. on the day Hasanni went missing
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    Maybe as information is verified by LE, then we could color it red or something.

    And if anybody has "better" links let me know. It would be nice if we had one constant source that reported this ... easier to keep track of.
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    http://www.ktvu.com/news/20467597/detail.html

    "KTVU also learned that the boy's foster mother Jennifer Campbell arrived at the shoe store where she works sometime between 8:30 a.m. and 9 a.m. on the day Hasanni went missing.

    Additionally, two workers at an auto salvage yard in Hayward reported seeing Ross and Hasanni in the BMW that same morning"

    so before noon?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Noway View Post
    Maybe as information is verified by LE, then we could color it red or something.

    And if anybody has "better" links let me know. It would be nice if we had one constant source that reported this ... easier to keep track of.
    Noway I think you only have a specified amount of time to edit your post for the timeline. I believe what we'll have to to once the edit feature expires is to quote your timeline and then add to it with a diferent color to indicate our own additions.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Shutterfly View Post
    Noway I think you only have a specified amount of time to edit your post for the timeline. I believe what we'll have to to once the edit feature expires is to quote your timeline and then add to it with a diferent color to indicate our own additions.
    Thanks! I changed my message at the bottom of the post.

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    This is an example of why we can't quite take media reports as fact. We might have to settle for widely reported.

    The child, wearing leg braces, was reported missing Monday afternoon when his father ran into the store to get the child's mother at the end of a visitation. The couple is divorced. When the parents returned to the car, Hassani was missing.

    http://www.kron4.com/News/ArticleVie...d/Default.aspx

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    Does anyone know when Hasanni wandered off to the park near his home, by himself?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Columbo View Post
    Does anyone know when Hasanni wandered off to the park near his home, by himself?
    Was it August 6 at the family get together? IDK

    I'll add "Hasannin wanders to park near his home" to the timeline even if we have to later move it.

    I thought "Hasanni didn't wander off" according to Louis. I took that to mean he was not the type of kid to wander off.
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    I wonder how long ago that was. Search dogs did not get his scent at the park.
    http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/video?id=6962291

    I don't know how long a human scent would stick around either.

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    8/10/09 -- 4:18pm -- 911 call
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    Quote Originally Posted by YellowSubmarine View Post
    8/10/09 -- 4:18pm -- 911 call
    Thank you! I've added info for that date/time.

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    Even if you don't have a link to the source of info, post what you think you read or saw ... someone else may have heard the same thing or we'll add it with note that we need link ...

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    Jen's train takes off around 8:07am from Fremont and arrives near her place of work, SHUZ by 8:15 in the AM. maybe she would leave her house around 7:30? This is from the BART schedule...

    LEAVE - Fremont7:30 am 12th St. Oakland City Center
    8:07 am -- 8:07 am
    (scheduled transfer) ARRIVE - Rockridge 8:15 am

    LEFT BY FORENSICFAN -
    Here is how long it would (generally) take by car on a Monday to make the trip if you left at 3:45 p.m. You can play with the times on the Predict-a-Trip tool:

    http://tinyurl.com/mbvvb9

    BART schedules can be found here:
    http://bart.gov/

    You'd be departing from Fremont and arriving at Rockridge, or vice versa. They have schedules up there, too.
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    Originally Posted by ForensicsFan View Post
    If he was seen Aug 6 (Thursday), and something happened Aug 7 (Friday) or over the weekend, the next work day to pull off this particular story would be Monday (Aug 10).
    Please think long and hard before calling a child a 'run-a-way':
    You might be giving a 'perk' to the 'perp'.


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    bumping to keep threads together


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    Just made a few edits but time had expired on editing first post.

    TIMELINE (based on media reports so maybe not FACT)

    (As noted by ForensicsFan with a few more details.)
    If he was seen August 6 (Thursday), and something happened August 7 (Friday) or over the weekend August 8 and 9 (Saturday and Sunday), the next work day to pull off this particular story would be August 10 (Monday).

    DATE/TIME Unknown – Hasanni wanders to Karl Nordvik Park, a few blocks from his house, by himself.

    July 31, 2009, 9:50 a.m. – Jennifer Campbell receives text message from Louis Ross "This is f- over, I will watch her but he will be out on the BART and its your responsibility to hey (sic) him so f- you," http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...MN9419BA1A.DTL Ross later said this text was in relation to something that had happened a year ago, he was ending the relationship, and he was going to meet Jennifer Campbell at the BART station, not that he was leaving Hasanni to ride it himself. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...MN9419BA1A.DTL

    August 6, 2009 – Hasanni Campbell seen at family event.

    August 10, 2009, 8:30-9 a.m. – Jennifer Campbell arrives at Shuz, 6012 College Avenue. http://www.ktvu.com/news/20467597/detail.html (video of Shuz) http://www.getfave.com/locations/13753737-shuz-of-rockridge

    August 10, 2009, Unknown Time – Louis Ross goes to bank (maybe Bank of America: need link) and leaves both children at home.

    August 10, 2009, Unknown AM – Louis Ross goes to salvage yard with Hasanni. "... two workers at an auto salvage yard in Hayward reported seeing Ross and Hasanni in the BMW that same morning" http://www.getfave.com/locations/13753737-shuz-of-rockridge LR either stayed in the car http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...BAB5199Q74.DTL OR got out and looked around. Not sure whether Aaliyah was with him/them.

    August 10, 2009, 4:15 p.m. – Hasanni Campbell at rear entrance to Shuz. Louis Ross said he left him in the car http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime...ssani-Campbell OR left him at the car http://www.insidebayarea.com/oakland...ws/ci_13036933 OR taking one step toward the door http://www.blackamericaweb.com/?q=ar...s/11815&page=6 OR left him at the door while he (LR) went around the front of the store to get Jennifer to open the door.

    August 10, 2009, 4:18 p.m. – 911 call by Louis Ross to report Hasanni Campbell missing. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,539327,00.html (LR was one who placed call) http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...BAB5199Q74.DTL (references 4:18 p.m. time)

    August 12, 2009 – Fremont police and Alameda County search and rescue teams combed Karl Nordvic Park and the surrounding area in North Fremont hunting for Hassani. http://www.mercurynews.com/breakingnews/ci_13045028

    August 15, 2009 – Coyote Hills Regional Park searched. http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/video?id=6967136 Nothing found (as reported).


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    Would it be good to add that on Aug 10, Police responded (to the 911 call) at 4:37 p.m. --I guess that means that is when they arrived? It was in a search warrant. Just a thought.

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    TIMELINE (based on media reports so maybe not FACT)

    (As noted by ForensicsFan with a few more details.)
    If he was seen August 6 (Thursday), and something happened August 7 (Friday) or over the weekend August 8 and 9 (Saturday and Sunday), the next work day to pull off this particular story would be August 10 (Monday).

    DATE/TIME Unknown – Hasanni wanders to Karl Nordvik Park (?), a few blocks from his house, by himself.

    July 31, 2009, 9:50 a.m. – Jennifer Campbell receives text message from Louis Ross "This is f- over, I will watch her but he will be out on the BART and its your responsibility to hey (sic) him so f- you," http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...MN9419BA1A.DTL Ross later said this text was in relation to something that had happened a year ago, he was ending the relationship, and he was going to meet Jennifer Campbell at the BART station, not that he was leaving Hasanni to ride it himself. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...MN9419BA1A.DTL

    August 6, 2009 – Hasanni Campbell seen at family event.

    August 10, 2009, 8:30-9 a.m. – Jennifer Campbell arrives at Shuz, 6012 College Avenue. http://www.ktvu.com/news/20467597/detail.html (video of Shuz) http://www.getfave.com/locations/13753737-shuz-of-rockridge

    August 10, 2009, Unknown Time – Louis Ross goes to bank (maybe Bank of America: need link) and leaves both children at home.

    August 10, 2009, Unknown AM – Louis Ross goes to salvage yard with Hasanni. "... two workers at an auto salvage yard in Hayward reported seeing Ross and Hasanni in the BMW that same morning" http://www.getfave.com/locations/13753737-shuz-of-rockridge LR either stayed in the car http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...BAB5199Q74.DTL OR got out and looked around. Not sure whether Aaliyah was with him/them.

    August 10, 2009, 4:15 p.m. – Hasanni Campbell at rear entrance to Shuz. Louis Ross said he left him in the car http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime...ssani-Campbell OR left him at the car http://www.insidebayarea.com/oakland...ws/ci_13036933 OR taking one step toward the door http://www.blackamericaweb.com/?q=ar...s/11815&page=6 OR left him at the door while he (LR) went around the front of the store to get Jennifer to open the door.

    August 10, 2009, 4:18 p.m. – 911 call by Louis Ross to report Hasanni Campbell missing. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,539327,00.html (LR was one who placed call) http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...BAB5199Q74.DTL (references 4:18 p.m. time)

    August 10, 2009, 4:37 p.m. – Police respond to 911 call. (page 5/7 of search warrant) http://llnw.static.cbslocal.com/stat...ll_warrant.pdf

    August 12, 2009 – Fremont police and Alameda County search and rescue teams combed Karl Nordvik Park and the surrounding area in North Fremont hunting for Hassani. http://www.mercurynews.com/breakingnews/ci_13045028

    August 15, 2009 – Coyote Hills Regional Park searched. http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/video?id=6967136 Nothing found (as reported).

    August 28, 2009, 1:50 p.m. – Jennifer Campbell arrested at the Union City BART station (10 Union Square, Union City, CA) on accessory to felony, murder charges. Bail set at $15,000. http://www.ktvu.com/news/20606391/detail.html and http://www.acgov.org/sheriff_app/inmateSearch.do

    August 28, 2009, 2:45 p.m. – Louis Ross arrested at home (5997 Roxie Terrace, Fremont, CA) on felony murder charges. No bail. http://www.ktvu.com/news/20606391/detail.html and http://www.acgov.org/sheriff_app/inmateSearch.do


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    DATE/TIME Unknown Hasanni wanders to Karl Nordvik Park, a few blocks from his house, by himself.

    MAY I ASK: WHERE DID THIS INFORMATION COME FROM? Sounds unrealistic and wondering if it came from ROSS!!! TIA
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    Quote Originally Posted by eyes4crime View Post
    DATE/TIME Unknown Hasanni wanders to Karl Nordvik Park, a few blocks from his house, by himself.

    MAY I ASK: WHERE DID THIS INFORMATION COME FROM? Sounds unrealistic and wondering if it came from ROSS!!! TIA
    That's why we need a link to the source.

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    TIMELINE (based on media reports so maybe not FACT)

    (As noted by ForensicsFan with a few more details.)
    If he was seen August 6 (Thursday), and something happened August 7 (Friday) or over the weekend August 8 and 9 (Saturday and Sunday), the next work day to pull off this particular story would be August 10 (Monday).

    DATE/TIME Unknown – Hasanni wanders to Karl Nordvik Park (?), a few blocks from his house, by himself. UNSUBSTANTIATED NEED SOURCE

    July 31, 2009, 9:50 a.m. – Jennifer Campbell receives text message from Louis Ross "This is f- over, I will watch her but he will be out on the BART and its your responsibility to hey (sic) him so f- you," http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...MN9419BA1A.DTL Ross later said this text was in relation to something that had happened a year ago, he was ending the relationship, and he was going to meet Jennifer Campbell at the BART station, not that he was leaving Hasanni to ride it himself. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...MN9419BA1A.DTL

    August 6, 2009, TIME UNKNOWN – Hasanni Campbell seen at family event. UNSUBSTANTIATED NEED SOURCE

    August 6, 2009, 8:49 p.m. – Hasanni Campbell caught on surveillance camera at a WalMart in Fremont, CA, with Jennifer and Aaliyah Campbell and Louis Ross. http://www.kron.com/News/SpecialCove...6/Default.aspx Video entitled Hasanni Campbell's Foster Father Released From Jail. At same link it is stated that investigators believe that they purchased a mini fridge.

    August 10, 2009, 7 a.m. – Jennifer Campbell last sees Hasanni when she kisses him goodbye around 7 a.m. Campbell said she last saw Hasanni around 7 a.m. Aug. 10 while the boy was still sleeping. She said she kissed him goodbye and went to work. "It's been a living a nightmare ever since," she said.
    http://www.insidebayarea.com/ci_1324...ce=most_viewed

    August 10, 2009, 8:30-9 a.m. – Jennifer Campbell arrives at Shuz, 6012 College Avenue. http://www.ktvu.com/news/20467597/detail.html (video of Shuz) http://www.getfave.com/locations/13753737-shuz-of-rockridge

    August 10, 2009, Unknown Time – Louis Ross goes to bank (maybe Bank of America: need link) and leaves both children at home.

    August 10, 2009, Unknown AM – Louis Ross goes to salvage yard with Hasanni. "... two workers at an auto salvage yard in Hayward reported seeing Ross and Hasanni in the BMW that same morning" http://www.getfave.com/locations/13753737-shuz-of-rockridge LR either stayed in the car http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...BAB5199Q74.DTL OR got out and looked around. Not sure whether Aaliyah was with him/them.

    August 10, 2009, 4:15 p.m. – Hasanni Campbell at rear entrance to Shuz. Louis Ross said he left him in the car http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime...ssani-Campbell OR left him at the car http://www.insidebayarea.com/oakland...ws/ci_13036933 OR taking one step toward the door http://www.blackamericaweb.com/?q=ar...s/11815&page=6 OR left him at the door while he (LR) went around the front of the store to get Jennifer to open the door.

    August 10, 2009, 4:18 p.m. – 911 call by Louis Ross to report Hasanni Campbell missing. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,539327,00.html (LR was one who placed call) http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...BAB5199Q74.DTL (references 4:18 p.m. time)

    August 10, 2009, 4:37 p.m. – Police respond to 911 call. (page 5/7 of search warrant) http://llnw.static.cbslocal.com/stat...ll_warrant.pdf

    August 12, 2009 – Fremont police and Alameda County search and rescue teams combed Karl Nordvik Park and the surrounding area in North Fremont hunting for Hassani. http://www.mercurynews.com/breakingnews/ci_13045028

    August 15, 2009 – Coyote Hills Regional Park searched. http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/video?id=6967136 Nothing found (as reported).

    August 28, 2009, 1:50 p.m. – Jennifer Campbell arrested at the Union City BART station (10 Union Square, Union City, CA) on accessory to felony, murder charges. Bail set at $15,000. http://www.ktvu.com/news/20606391/detail.html and http://www.acgov.org/sheriff_app/inmateSearch.do

    August 28, 2009, 2:45 p.m. – Louis Ross arrested at home (5997 Roxie Terrace, Fremont, CA) on felony murder charges. No bail. http://www.ktvu.com/news/20606391/detail.html and http://www.acgov.org/sheriff_app/inmateSearch.do


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