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http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/589ufco.html


Unidentified White/Mixed Female

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  • The victim was discovered on July 14, 1999 in Huerfano County, Colorado.
  • Cause of Death: Blunt force trauma to the right side of the head.
  • estimated date of Death: 6-12 months prior
  • Skeletal Remains
Vital Statistics






  • Approximate Height and Weight: 5'8.5"- 6'0.5"; 135-145 lbs.
  • Distinguishing Characteristics: White, Euroamerican. Possible Native or Hispanic Mixture. Brown hair.
  • Dentals: Available
  • Clothing: Light colored, sleeveless, crop top t-shirt made by "Bansforner", approximately size medium; blue jeans, cuffs rolled up two times (approximately 5 inches), made by "Wrangler", size 34x34; maroon or red sports bra, made by "Bonjour", size extra large, (approximately a 36 C or D cup); red, mens thermal, long underwear bottoms (long johns) with the "Winston" cigarette logo on the back of left side, approximately 28 inches waist and 22 inches long at the inseam; red or brown knee high socks; black or dark brown sandals, made in Italy, with leather straps and double buckles, approximately size 9 or 10.
  • Jewelry: A small copper or rust colored bracelet, with a single letter "C" on the front.
Case History
The victim was located on Road 610, 3.5 miles off of Exit 56, "Red Rock Road", North of Walsenburg, Colorado on July 14, 1999. She was found in an old, abandoned refrigerator, in a secluded rural area, not far from Walsenburg. The refrigerator was a "Philco" brand, model unknown. It had a lever handle, and was a single door unit. Possible date - 1940-1960s model.
 
she is tall for a woman

The pants and long johns are usually mens clothing (34x34 is a mans sizing)To me is sounds like she may have been living on the fringe of society and wore these clothes even though the pants were too long.

at 5'8" to 6' though, they should not have had to be folded up 5 inches. She would have to have been long bodied and short legged. I am 5'7 and can wear 33x34 with a nice heel, but I am long limbed.
 
Here's a new NamUs MP Case, and she fits pretty closely to this Huerfano County Jane Doe:

Ambretta Luanna Rawhouser
https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/9566/64

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* Her DLC (08-Feb-1999) was five months prior to the discovery of the remains (i.e., pretty close to the 6-12 month PM interval)
* The location of discovery is about 100 miles from the Royal Gorge Bridge (where her vehicle was found abandoned).
Walsenburg, CO to Royal Gorge Bridge, Canon City, CO 81212 - Google Maps
* Her height (5'8" to 5'9") is consistent with the UID's height estimate (5'8.5"- 6'0.5"), which is uncommonly tall for a woman.
* Her listed weight (150-160 lbs) is slightly, but not excessively high compared to the (135-145 lbs) weight estimate.
* DoeNet does not provide an age estimate, but her age appears to be consistent with the appearance of the facial reconstructions.
* The UID is described as Caucasian with possible Native or Hispanic mix (but "possible" is the operative word here). She doesn't have as much of a Native American appearance as the facial reconstruction, but her facial shape is more or less consistent.
* Her sleeveless shirt (though probably not the same shirt) is similar in description to the shirt in which the UID was found (sleeveless, crop top t-shirt made by "Bansforner").
 
CarlK90245 said:
Here's a new NamUs MP Case, and she fits pretty closely to this Huerfano County Jane Doe:

Ambretta Luanna Rawhouser
https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/9566/64

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I just spoke with Della Duran of the Huerfano County Coroner's Office. She was very polite and seemingly interested in the information. She wasn't at her desk, so she was unable to determine whether Ambretta was on her rule-out list (which she says is about 200 names long). She says that she might have seen Ambretta's name in DoeNetwork, but I responded that Ambretta is not listed in DoeNet.

I asked about the rule-out listing and said that there is an online group of people who research these cases, and are interested in seeing who has been looked at and ruled out.

She says that there are "three or four" names of people that she has received from tipsters recently, and she still needs to look into them.

She invited me to call her back late next week, and when I do, she will tell me who is on their rule-out list.
 
I made a follow-up call to Della Duran to see if she had ever ruled-out Ambretta Rawhouser against this Jane Doe.

She says that she thinks that Ambretta has been ruled out, but she had looked at the cases and agrees that they look pretty close. She wants to re-evaluate the two cases.

She says that she doesn't remember the basis of the rule-out and thinks it might just be something that was not definitive such as age. BTW, the DoeNet UID casefile doesn't include an age estimate.

She took down my number and said that she would get back to me in a few days.
 
I thought something was confusing me. the thread says UID Male yet the UID is female.
 
CarlK90245 said:
Trujillo looks like a pretty decent possible.
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Let me know if you hear if Trujillo was ruled out, it is the closest geographically that fits the timeline and overall physical specs....considering the "C" braclet anyways...
 
Maybe the Unidentified woman is Camille Dorothy Dardanes? There is a little bit of a ressemblance there, and the C initial matches.

https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/172/0/
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/d/dardanes_camille.html
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1063dfnv.html


Slightly shorter than the estimated height range. The timing doesn't fit perfectly with what everyone assumes happened to Camille, but because drugs and an abusive relationship were factors in Camille's life maybe she didn't feel capable of making contact for the several years between her date last contact and 1998/1999.
 
Is it possible that the doenetwork has the height off because of the 34x34 wranglers?
With the jeans rolled up at the cuffs to be about 5 inches shorter, maybe this UID is indeed shorter?
Bonny Lee Baker has been missing since June 30, 1998. She is 62 inches and 145 pounds.
She had a live in boyfriend named Crespin Nene-Perez. Could that be where the "C" bracelet comes into play?
I think her photo looks similar to this UID.
http://blogs.denverpost.com/coldcases/files/2012/09/aaabaker.jpg

short article on her here...
http://blogs.denverpost.com/coldcases/tag/mexican-border/


http://www.missingin.org/reg5857/bonny_lee_baker.htm

https://www.colorado.gov/apps/coldcase/casedetail.html?id=4022
 
*Bump*

DoeNetwork has updated Jane Doe's page.

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Artistic renderings of the decedent

Date of Discovery: August 10, 1999
Location of Discovery: Walsenburg, Huerfano County, Colorado
Estimated Date of Death: Unknown
State of Remains: Skeletal
Cause of Death: Unknown

Physical Description
Estimated Age: 30-45 years old
Race: Unknown; possibly White/Hispanic or Native American.
Sex: Female
Height: 5'7" to 6'0"
Weight: Unknown, but of moderate build.
Hair: Brown, shoulder-length, well-cared for.
Eye Color: Unknown
Distinguishing Marks/Features: She was very tall according to a forensic anthropologist. She had one healed broken left rib.

Identifiers
Dentals: Available. Extensive dental work.
Fingerprints: Not Available
DNA: Available

Clothing & Personal Items
Clothing: Light-colored Bansforner sleeveless crop top T-shirt (size medium), Wrangler blue jeans (size 34x34), maroon or red Bonjour sports bra (size extra large - approximately 36C or D), red men's thermal long underwear bottoms with a Winston cigarette logo on the back of left side (size approximately 28x22), red or pink or white or tan knee high athletic socks, and black or dark brown sandals with leather straps and double buckles - one above ankle and one below - with rubber soles and suede leather foot pads (approximately size 9 or 10, made in Italy). No belt or underwear were located.
Jewelry: Unknown.
Additional Personal Items: Small metal clip on left side belt loop (similar to a small money clip), not extremely faded, in good condition.

Circumstances of Discovery
A man discovered the woman's skeletal remains located in an old, abandoned refrigerator in a secluded rural area on Road 610, 3.5 miles off of Exit 56 (Red Rocks Road), 3 miles northwest of Walsenburg, in the general vicinity of I-25.

The discovery came about when the Huerfano County Sheriff's Office received a letter dated August 10, 1999, from a man in Albuquerque, New Mexico. In the letter he stated that he came upon the remains while walking through the area three weeks before. A deputy was then dispatched to the scene.

The man indicated that he found a refrigerator lying on its side with the door partly open with what appeared to be skeletal remains. After further investigation, law enforcement located a scapula and jaw as well as additional bone fragments within 100 feet of the refrigerator. The trash in the refrigerator was dated 1988-1992.

The refrigerator was a Philco brand, model unknown, but possibly a 1940s to 1960s model. It had a lever handle and was a single door unit.

Investigating Agency(s)
Agency Name: Huerfano County Coroner's Office
Agency Contact Person: Vonnie Valdez
Agency Phone Number: 719-989-0988
Agency E-Mail: N/A
Agency Case Number: 99028

Agency Name: Huerfano County Sheriff's Office
Agency Contact Person: N/A
Agency Phone Number: 719-738-1600
Agency E-Mail: N/A
Agency Case Number: HS030399

NCIC Case Number: Unknown
NamUs Case Number: 12447

Information Source(s)
Namus
Colorado Bureau of Investigation
Huerfano County Coroner's Office
 
Mrs. Badcrumble said:
*Bump*

DoeNetwork has updated Jane Doe's page.

589UFCO.jpg
589UFCO1.jpg

Artistic renderings of the decedent

Date of Discovery: August 10, 1999
Location of Discovery: Walsenburg, Huerfano County, Colorado
Estimated Date of Death: Unknown
State of Remains: Skeletal
Cause of Death: Unknown

Physical Description
Estimated Age: 30-45 years old
Race: Unknown; possibly White/Hispanic or Native American.
Sex: Female
Height: 5'7" to 6'0"
Weight: Unknown, but of moderate build.
Hair: Brown, shoulder-length, well-cared for.
Eye Color: Unknown
Distinguishing Marks/Features: She was very tall according to a forensic anthropologist. She had one healed broken left rib.

Identifiers
Dentals: Available. Extensive dental work.
Fingerprints: Not Available
DNA: Available

Clothing & Personal Items
Clothing: Light-colored Bansforner sleeveless crop top T-shirt (size medium), Wrangler blue jeans (size 34x34), maroon or red Bonjour sports bra (size extra large - approximately 36C or D), red men's thermal long underwear bottoms with a Winston cigarette logo on the back of left side (size approximately 28x22), red or pink or white or tan knee high athletic socks, and black or dark brown sandals with leather straps and double buckles - one above ankle and one below - with rubber soles and suede leather foot pads (approximately size 9 or 10, made in Italy). No belt or underwear were located.
Jewelry: Unknown.
Additional Personal Items: Small metal clip on left side belt loop (similar to a small money clip), not extremely faded, in good condition.

Circumstances of Discovery
A man discovered the woman's skeletal remains located in an old, abandoned refrigerator in a secluded rural area on Road 610, 3.5 miles off of Exit 56 (Red Rocks Road), 3 miles northwest of Walsenburg, in the general vicinity of I-25.

The discovery came about when the Huerfano County Sheriff's Office received a letter dated August 10, 1999, from a man in Albuquerque, New Mexico. In the letter he stated that he came upon the remains while walking through the area three weeks before. A deputy was then dispatched to the scene.

The man indicated that he found a refrigerator lying on its side with the door partly open with what appeared to be skeletal remains. After further investigation, law enforcement located a scapula and jaw as well as additional bone fragments within 100 feet of the refrigerator. The trash in the refrigerator was dated 1988-1992.

The refrigerator was a Philco brand, model unknown, but possibly a 1940s to 1960s model. It had a lever handle and was a single door unit.

Investigating Agency(s)
Agency Name: Huerfano County Coroner's Office
Agency Contact Person: Vonnie Valdez
Agency Phone Number: 719-989-0988
Agency E-Mail: N/A
Agency Case Number: 99028

Agency Name: Huerfano County Sheriff's Office
Agency Contact Person: N/A
Agency Phone Number: 719-738-1600
Agency E-Mail: N/A
Agency Case Number: HS030399

NCIC Case Number: Unknown
NamUs Case Number: 12447

Information Source(s)
Namus
Colorado Bureau of Investigation
Huerfano County Coroner's Office
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anthrobones said:
589UFCO


Unidentified White/Mixed Female

589UFCO.jpg
589UFCO1.jpg






    • The victim was discovered on July 14, 1999 in Huerfano County, Colorado.
    • Cause of Death: Blunt force trauma to the right side of the head.
    • estimated date of Death: 6-12 months prior
    • Skeletal Remains
Vital Statistics
Approximate Height and Weight: 5'8.5"- 6'0.5"; 135-145 lbs.


    • Distinguishing Characteristics: White, Euroamerican. Possible Native or Hispanic Mixture. Brown hair.
    • Dentals: Available
    • Clothing: Light colored, sleeveless, crop top t-shirt made by "Bansforner", approximately size medium; blue jeans, cuffs rolled up two times (approximately 5 inches), made by "Wrangler", size 34x34; maroon or red sports bra, made by "Bonjour", size extra large, (approximately a 36 C or D cup); red, mens thermal, long underwear bottoms (long johns) with the "Winston" cigarette logo on the back of left side, approximately 28 inches waist and 22 inches long at the inseam; red or brown knee high socks; black or dark brown sandals, made in Italy, with leather straps and double buckles, approximately size 9 or 10.
    • Jewelry: A small copper or rust colored bracelet, with a single letter "C" on the front.
Case History
The victim was located on Road 610, 3.5 miles off of Exit 56, "Red Rock Road", North of Walsenburg, Colorado on July 14, 1999. She was found in an old, abandoned refrigerator, in a secluded rural area, not far from Walsenburg. The refrigerator was a "Philco" brand, model unknown. It had a lever handle, and was a single door unit. Possible date - 1940-1960s model.
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There are a few changes to her Doe Network profile. I've listed them below along with the information provided in the NamUs profile.

  • discovered on July 14, 19 99 vs. Date of Discovery: August 10, 1999 (NamUs Date Body Found August 10, 1999)
  • estimated date of Death: 6-12 months prior vs. Estimated Date of Death: Unknown (NamUs Estimated Year of Death 1997-1999 Estimated PMI--)
  • Cause of Death: Blunt force trauma to the right side of the head. vs. Cause of Death: Unknown (NamUs - no info provided)
  • Approximate Height and Weight: 5'8.5"- 6'0.5"; 135-145 lbs. vs. Height: 5'7" to 6'0"
    Weight: Unknown, but of moderate build. (NamUs - Height 5' 10"(70 inches) , Estimated; The female was very tall perhaps 5 ft 9 in. to 6 ft tall; Weight 140 lbs, Estimated)
  • Distinguishing Characteristics: Brown hair vs. Hair: Brown, shoulder-length, well-cared for. (NamUs - Hair Color Brown; Head Hair Description Reddish/brown but naturally dark brown; Curly; Estimated to be approximately shoulder length but hair appeared to be "singed" but not burned due to exposure. The hair appeared to have been well cared for prior to death, thick growth, with no split ends.)
  • Jewelry: A small copper or rust colored bracelet, with a single letter "C" on the front. vs. Jewelry: Unknown. (NamUs - Jewelry none)
Also note, her case history/circumstances section was expanded on Doe's most recent update. It includes much more detail than the snippet given in the OP. What I'd like to know is what happened to her bracelet with the letter "C" on the front? Why did Doe remove that from the profile? Does it exist? Was it an error on Doe's part (just like the first date of discovery shown as July)? Neither the updated profile nor the NamUs profile mentions the bracelet.:confused: We should probably keep this in mind when searching for PMs. Imo, the bracelet may not exist. Another point about the "C" bracelet, her body was found in Colorado so if the bracelet exists, could it simply be a "C" for a favorite sports team?

ETA clarification - After thinking a bit more about the original discovery date of July, I guess Doe must have used that date because the letter writer said he had discovered her body 3 weeks prior to when LE found her body (Aug). So her actual "found date" would be July (if the author is telling the truth).
 
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‘Jane Doe’ found in Huerfano County remains unidentified 22 years later | FOX31 Denver

HUERFANO COUNTY, Colo. (KDVR) – The Colorado Bureau of Investigation released new digital reconstruction images of an unidentified female in hopes of getting new information.

Jane Doe’s skeletal remains were found Aug. 10, 1999, on Red Rocks Road (near Walsenburg) in unincorporated Huerfano County approximately 3.5 miles west of Interstate-25.

Investigators believe foul play was involved in her death.
 

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‘Jane Doe’ found in Huerfano County remains unidentified 22 years later | FOX31 Denver

HUERFANO COUNTY, Colo. (KDVR) – The Colorado Bureau of Investigation released new digital reconstruction images of an unidentified female in hopes of getting new information.

Jane Doe’s skeletal remains were found Aug. 10, 1999, on Red Rocks Road (near Walsenburg) in unincorporated Huerfano County approximately 3.5 miles west of Interstate-25.

Investigators believe foul play was involved in her death.
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TY for posting the update!! Here's more from the article:
SBM
  • between 30 to 45-years-old
  • between 5 feet 8 to 10 inches tall,
  • weighed between 130-145 pounds,
  • shoulder-length dark brown to black hair that may have been styled in dreadlocks
  • may have been white, American Indian or Hispanic.
  • Jane Doe’s teeth would have been a predominant facial feature, she had undergone extensive dental work.
  • red, men’s long underwear with a Winston cigarette logo, a red crop top t-shirt, blue jeans, red crew socks and dark brown leather strap sandals.
 
I posted the new reconstructions on the Grateful Doe subreddit and someone said this sounds like Rasmussen given the fact he was unaccounted for between 1990-98 and he is also loosely tied to another woman in a fridge in CA. The blunt force trauma to the head is consistent with him too, but I only see that listed as her cause of death on this forum - do we know where that detail came from?
 
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