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    Wonder what we will hear from Christopher Walkens and Robert Wagner......and was anyone else on the Splendour????
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    Why is this coming out now and not years ago?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrangler View Post
    Why is this coming out now and not years ago?
    The captain of the boat says that he was both hushed up and that he was drinking over the years. I think now he's dried up and coming forward? I don't know, but I do have a hard time imagining Robert Wagner beating up Natalie Wood and murdering her. He was Jonathon Hart, for goodness sake!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. E View Post
    The captain of the boat says that he was both hushed up and that he was drinking over the years. I think now he's dried up and coming forward? I don't know, but I do have a hard time imagining Robert Wagner beating up Natalie Wood and murdering her. He was Jonathon Hart, for goodness sake!
    He's an actor... isn't he also the voice of "Jack" from Jack-In-The-Box commercials???
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    personally, i love "miracle on 34th street"


    i really think her death was an accident... a BAC of .14%, fear of water, not being a strong swimmer and the fact she was wearing a down jacket that the coroner said was 30-40 pounds wet (weighing her small frame down)... i think in the dark she fell/slipped off the boat and was simply unable to re-board/call for help. so sad!

    there is a very interesting chapter about her death in "coroner" by thomas noguchi m.d. (1983).


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    Quote Originally Posted by MarleneM View Post
    Her fear of water is what always stuck with me about Natalie's death. I found the quote that I had ingrained in my memory many years ago:

    "I'm frightened to death of the water,'' Natalie Wood once said. ''I can swim a little bit, but I'm afraid of water that is dark.'' The 43-year-old actress' fear was tragically justified on Nov. 29, 1981, when her body was discovered floating in a cove at Catalina Island, Calif.

    http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,312482,00.html
    I always found her death controversial yet I cannot see Wagner killing her. I do agree with the above quote as she did fear the water so that has to be taken into consideration. Also, at this juncture, an investigation may not lead to an arrest. I don't think Chris did it either. This is just my gut speaking. I feel she was drunk and just may have had an accident even if it looked like it was more.

    She was a beautiful, and talented actress. My mom reminded me of her when she was young.

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    Although this article is over a year ago, it seems to me if either Walken or Wagner was involved, and knew what happened they would have come forward.

    ‘Angry, jealous’ star tells of night Natalie Wood died


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lola View Post
    Although this article is over a year ago, it seems to me if either Walken or Wagner was involved, and knew what happened they would have come forward.

    ‘Angry, jealous’ star tells of night Natalie Wood died
    Reading this article it really does seem like a tragic accident. Sometimes I think many are quick to jump on the non-accidental death bandwagon because we're jaded in some way, with so much crime around. Then again though, I don't know if many thought OJ was capable of killing either. I guess I'm on the fence.
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    Oh, come on, folks. Natalie Wood's death was ruled as accidental by Medical Examiner Thomas Noguci. I too read his excellent book when it came out way back when. He was the Los Angeles county pathologist who performed autopsies in many famous deaths including Natalie and Marilyn Monroe, as I recall.
    He went into great detail about how Ms. Wood probably lived for some time, clinging to the dinghy she was attempting to stop from banging against the side of the boat. But her blood alcohol level was quite high and she did have a down vest on over top of her nightgown, which got water logged and undoubtedly weighed her down.
    The investigation into her death was quite thorough, with experts determining where their yacht, the "Splendor" I think it was, was anchored, what the tides were that night and how the tides would have carried her clinging to the dinghy. And her body was found exactly where the tide studies showed it would be.

    A sad, sad drinking-related death, according to the M.E. Noguci.


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    actually, IIRC, trying to stop the dingy from banging into the yacht was noguchi's first theory until his investigator changed his mind: that natalie (1) fell while attempting to board the dinghy or (2) after untying the rope b/w the dinghy and the yacht while still aboard the Splendour, she lost the rope and was trying to reach for the dinghy as the wind/tide moved it away from the yacht and she lost her balance.

    now, where's the book?

    page 39:

    forensic evidence, such as the fingernail scratches on the side of the dingy, the brush-type abrasion on her cheek (noguchi states this was caused by her falling into the ocean and striking her face - page 27), and the untouched algae on the swim step (of the yacht), seemed to indicate that she was trying to board the dinghy, not just adjust it's rope, when the accident happened.


    *have to say i don't get how the abrasion on her face lends itself to the climbing aboard the dinghy theory instead of the adjusting the rope theory... can anyone add some insight? the other two pieces of evidence -the fingernail scratches on the dinghy and the untouched algae on the swim step- do indicate to me that she wanted the dinghy not the yacht at the time...
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    Redhead: Thanks for that refresher. Wow, I am impressed - you had that book on your shelf!

    He did rule it an alcohol-related accident, right?


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    Quote Originally Posted by AlwaysShocked View Post
    Redhead: Thanks for that refresher. Wow, I am impressed - you had that book on your shelf!

    He did rule it an alcohol-related accident, right?

    you're welcome!!

    actually, i had that book on the bookshelf right beside my computer desk LOL

    (in a pile of "cause of death" books, forensics books and true crime books... i was a criminology major and i kept them close LOL)

    noguchi's COD: accidental downing (as a result of the heavy jacket specifically)... with "intoxication... one of the factors involved in the fact she was unable to respond well to the emergency after she was in water" (p. 31). he believes she would have known to take off the heavy jacket if less intoxicated. he also says he tried to "soft pedal" (aka tone down) the fact that alcohol played a part in her death b/c he didn't want the criticism he'd seen/experienced when other celebs had been reported as dying from drugs/alcohol.

    also, noguchi states that both he and the police did not suspect foul play but by nightfall that sunday "hollywood was alive with rumors" (p. 24).

    any other questions - let me know!!


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    Relatives want case re-opened

    The star's drowning death is one of Hollywood's most enduring mysteries. Although the Los Angeles County Coroner's Office ruled that Wood's death was an accident, and the sheriff says the case is closed, others say there are pieces of the puzzle that don't make sense.

    The actress' sister, Lana Wood, and the captain of the yacht Natalie Wood sailed with her husband, actor Robert Wagner, are asking the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Office to re-open the case. So far, authorities have not responded to the request.




    (more @ link)

    http://edition.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/03...ood/index.html


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    IMO, Lana is looking for fame and fortune again. She hadn't acted for years and finally started doing bit parts again.

    According to IMDB trivia, she's estranged from her sister's children and her family was PO'd when she wrote her "memoirs" about Natalie.

    Robert Wagner is a great and well known actor... I think she's trying to ride his tail back to fame herself.

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    I have always thought that there was something hinky about Natalie's death. I am undoubtful, however, that the case will be re-opened going on 30 years after her death.


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