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    CT- Annie Le, missing from Yale, thread #5 FOUND DECEASED

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    Rest in peace Annie Le

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    Thanks so much, Nurse

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    Thanks, NeeBee~

    Welcome to WS, GTK and TKSK~ Nice to have you both on board.

    I may have missed some other newbies today...if so I am sorry! Welcome!!
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    Well this contradicts[ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4158907&postcount=611"] the well enumerated points laid out by that other individual on the NHR site[/ame], but this is what the new NH Independent article said that I found most interesting (which then, yes, means all that looking at articles may be moot)

    "Another law enforcement source familiar with the probe identified the suspect as a lab technician who works with animal testing at Yale. That technician’s campus phone number was disconnected Monday afternoon and he couldn’t be reached for comment. The technician allegedly had an unrequited love interest in Annie Le, according to that source. That suggestion couldn’t be independently verified Monday afternoon."

    ETA: It contradicts as far as none of those names on the now removed bennett list seem to also be a lab tech working with animal testing - unless that's a loosely referenced title to obscure the identity...which I suppose is possible.
    Last edited by TravelingBug; 09-14-2009 at 11:58 PM. Reason: to add the other link

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    Supplied by belimom at the end of the last thread:

    http://www.newhavenindependent.org/a...us_suspect.php
    Here's a snippet:

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    However, a source familiar with the investigation said the probe has zeroed in on a single “serious” suspect.

    Another law enforcement source familiar with the probe identified the suspect as a lab technician who works with animal testing at Yale. That technician’s campus phone number was disconnected Monday afternoon and he couldn’t be reached for comment. The technician allegedly had an unrequited love interest in Annie Le, according to that source. That suggestion couldn’t be independently verified Monday afternoon.

    The New Haven Register’s Bill Kaempffer reported that the suspect failed a polygraph test and refused to answer cops’ questions, with a lawyer present.
    UNQUOTE

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    Re: XXX Posts on NHRegister website

    “RUMOR, n. A favorite weapon of the assassins of character." Ambrose Bierce

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    TravelingBug - We posted at the same time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jersey*Girl View Post
    salverenga, thank you! It's not the exact list but what you just supplied answered a question I had about 10 minutes ago! YALE OFFERS RODENT SERVICES! Please refer to the below link...I certainly don't want to go off on a tangent but it could be linked somewhat...maybe not, but maybe...

    http://info.med.yale.edu/yarc/vcs/rodent.htm

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    The Rodent Service provides comprehensive breeding and colony management services to assist investigators with rodent-based research. The benefits are as follows:
    Reduces time and costs for colony management
    Provides complete colony records including documentation of lineage
    Ensures regulatory compliance
    The following services are available at an hourly rate of $77. Total breeding colony management packages or individual services are provided. Individual consultation is provided at no charge.

    Weekly (minimum) monitoring of breeding pairs
    Twice weekly (minimum) monitoring of harem breeding pairs
    Daily monitoring of pregnant females and females with litters
    Separation of pregnant females (harem pens)
    Weaning
    Setup and retirement of breeders
    Timed matings
    Identification of individual animals
    Record keeping and monthly reports
    Biopsy for DNA analysis
    Euthanasia
    The Rodent Service can also provide technical assistance with chronic drug administration, sample collection, minor surgical procedures and other experimental procedures in rodents.
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    Now, I wonder if Annie or her research team used these services. I would think the service tech would be housed in the lab itself...and I know from Annie's med docs that she used mice...
    They would absolutely be required to use the services. This is true in every university that uses animals. As I explained previously it is not permitted to house mice in your laboratory. They must be kept in an animal facility- this is all explained actually on another page of the site that's posted above. You must go to that facility to work with your mice- you can only remove mice from the facility for terminal experiments. If you take them out they can not go back. Animal use is extremely regulated. If anyone violates the rules badly enough, their research projects can be shut down.

    This is how it works- There is an entire department in charge of everyone's animals. Scientists must order mice through this department- it assigns investigators space for their animals. People who are going to work with the animals receive training in the proper handling of research animals before they are allowed access to the facility. Yale has multiple facilities in different buildings, as do we. These facilities generally each have a supervisor and multiple animal/husbandry techs. These animal techs are responsible for changing cages, checking food and water every day, room sanitizing, bringing in supplies, cagewashing, autoclaving, euthanizing, housing new animals, etc.

    It is a very hot, dirty, physically demanding job which generally does not pay very well. It does not require higher education. These techs would not be visiting research labs, co-authoring papers, etc.

    Laboratory technicians work in the research labs. These techs can range from someone who washes glassware and makes solutions all the way up to lab manager. They often provide support to the doctoral students and post docs, but more advanced techs will often have their own experiments to do- these techs are often co-authors of research papers.

    Anyone listed in Bennett's laboratory would not be an animal tech- they might work with his animals, but they are not an animal tech.

    These are very different jobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SnowAngels View Post
    “RUMOR, n. A favorite weapon of the assassins of character." Ambrose Bierce
    Duly noted...and I think I'm going to get off that track

    PS. Love my copy of Devil's Dictionary...

    so clever
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    :Welcome-12-june: to all newbies! New thread, hope you find us!


    KDKA TV just showed pictures of a huge vigil for Annie tonight at YALE!
    Kyron, HALEIGH, ADJI & Gabriel NEEDS PRAYERS NOW TO FIND THEM!. Zahra & Jonathan in heaven
    Justice for Hailey!!!!
    No Justice for Caylee Marie..........


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    I appreciate why they are being careful in naming the person they are interested in until they have the DNA testing back, but it would be nice if LE would take him into custody ahead of time so we could pull the arrest records for tomorrow.

    Thanks to Labrat for explaining about how those things work within such a setting as I had no idea. I would certainly have to pay for someone to take care of my mice for experiments since I would flip out every time I saw one.
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    Thanks for the new thread, Nurse. And, welcome to all the newbies! Glad to have you posting with us

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    thank you Labrat for that VERY INFORMATIVE POST! I am so very glad it is on page one of the new thread for easy "bumping"!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeriouslySearching View Post
    I appreciate why they are being careful in naming the person they are interested in until they have the DNA testing back, but it would be nice if LE would take him into custody ahead of time so we could pull the arrest records for tomorrow.
    Can't a person be held 24 hours for questioing?
    Could DNA be back from clothes ( a few days ago?) atleast by then???
    Kyron, HALEIGH, ADJI & Gabriel NEEDS PRAYERS NOW TO FIND THEM!. Zahra & Jonathan in heaven
    Justice for Hailey!!!!
    No Justice for Caylee Marie..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeriouslySearching View Post
    I appreciate why they are being careful in naming the person they are interested in until they have the DNA testing back, but it would be nice if LE would take him into custody ahead of time so we could pull the arrest records for tomorrow.
    this post is a great example of why I love SeriouslySearching!!!!

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