We can discuss what we find out about the evidence at the scene (s) here.
What kind of clothes were in the ceiling?
Are they RC's?
What condition was Annie's body in?
Where was blood found?
Whose blood is it?
Is RC's DNA under Annie's fingernails.
Well, anyway, stuff like that.
It was just released that she was strangled. Ok - next blaring question - where did the blood come from? We do know they found "bloody clothes" in the ceiling - so where did the blood come from? Do we know that yet?
not sure where to put this (put it in r clark thread too)
1) Does video camera show R Clark wearing different clothes before and after fire alarm?
2) Do cell phone records show clark having left work (for the day) after the alarm? if so, how does he explain it? if not, where did he go in the building? ( I would assume he did not re-enter because he didnt retrieve his clothes)
3) are there phone records that show him calling le beforehand?
I was under the impression that the bloody clothes are the killer's and that Annie scratched him on the chest as she fought for her life which, to my mind, completely jibes with death by strangulation. I've mentioned before that I'm so glad she put up such a good fight. Did you see the biceps on RC? Petite Annie was way overmatched but it would be wonderful if she managed to leave evidence behind to catch her killer.
ETA link with references to scratches on RC's chest and the blood on the clothes belonging to the killer:
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Did anyone hear the most recent Fox News report? Were they talking about e-mails between Annie and the suspect?
Last edited by Amster; 09-16-2009 at 02:53 PM. Reason: found a link
The fact that they have a conclusive COD as strangulation encourages me.
We can hope for presence of DNA-body evidence, in particular evidence of the killer's DNA on body.
http://www.middletownpress.com/artic...f985520966.txt“The results of the forensic analysis from the crime lab will either rule in or rule out our person of interest in this case,” New Haven Assistant Police Chief Peter Reichard said Wednesday morning. “If he’s ruled out, it’s back to the drawing board” where detectives will examine other people who had contact with Le, 24, a graduate student in pharmacology.
“If he’s ruled in, the course of action would be seeking a custodial arrest of the subject.”
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I posted this on the gen. discussion thread before I realized there were individual topic thread...probably why lurkers shouldn't post!
Is there any further detail available in regards to the clothes that were found, or if RC was seen on video arriving at the building in one outfit, and leaving in a different one? I'm curious to know how common it would be for an animal tech to keep a change of clothes at the lab? My layman assumption is that the tech's clothing would be protected by a lab coat -- is that the 'bloody clothing' that was found?
If the clothing in question was something more akin to pants and/or a shirt, I wonder how new, clean clothing was obtained. For instance, do the techs have lockers where clean clothes can be stored in case they're ever needed? Or is having a change of clothes at work more of a rarity, perhaps suggesting premeditation? My other thought was that maybe someone brought him a change of clothes upon request. Then again, we probably don't have enough information to even discuss this aspect....
A "source" (Your guess is as good as mine as to who that might be) says this about some evidence:
...The source said evidence recovered from the crime scene indicates that Le was killed in a different room in the basement laboratory and then moved to a second room where the crawl space was located.
The source said only someone with intimate knowledge of the layout of the laboratory would have been able to access the crawl space.
The source said tiny droplets of blood were found in one of the laboratory rooms where police now believe the murder took place. The blood is being analyzed at the state forensic laboratory...
7:51 p.m. EDT, September 15, 2009
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http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...M9IbwD9AOKOI00A Connecticut police lab is expediting tests on the DNA of the "person of interest" in the Yale killing so he can be charged or vindicated soon.
State police Lt. Paul Vance said Wednesday that the case has been put to the top of the pack of DNA samples awaiting testing.
Twenty-four-year-old graduate student Annie Le was suffocated and her body stuffed behind a wall in her lab building. Animal lab technician Raymond Clark III was questioned by police Wednesday.
Authorities want to test DNA taken from Clark's hair, fingernails and saliva. They want to compare it with more than 150 pieces of evidence.
University of Connecticut genetics professor Linda Straus Baugh (BOW') says testing can be done in days if a case gets top priority.
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"Blood splatter were found on a laundry cart and a bead from her necklace was found on the floor of the basement lab where she was killed and stuffed into a wall panel.
ABC News has also learned that Clark sent a text message to Le early Tuesday, Sept. 8, requesting a meeting to discuss the cleanliness of research mice, with which Le was working and which Clark was in charge of overseeing. "
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Here is some discussion about him on video surveillance. Not known yet whether the clothes he was wearing while leaving were different than when he arrived...
Video surveillance (circumstantial) evidence:
Snip: "Clark left the building at the time of a fire alarm. Surveillance camera footage is said to show him looking considerably more distraught than could be explained by a simple evacuation." http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_c...bout_mice.html
Swipe card evidence on day Annie was missing, also from NY Daily News...
"Investigators also noted swipe card records that are said to show Clark usually went through the building in an orderly fashion in accordance with the demands of his work.
But the swipe card records from the day Le disappeared show Clark moving from room to room with no apparent logic, at points going to places unrelated to his job.
Such a pattern might fit somebody who was frenetically searching for a place to hide a body."
More on cause of death:
Dr. Henry Lee, a nationally known forensic scientist and former director of Connecticut's crime laboratory, said the cause of Le's death was "external force applied to the neck," but may not necessarily mean someone strangled her.
"It could be any heavy object," he told The Associated Press. "It could be a hand, it could be anything."
I have information that police have confiscated bloody surgical gloves.