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    the 'why didn't she run' nonsense

    She was 11 when she was stolen from a bus stop, tazered, tortured, raped, ect. She was most likely told if she tried to escape he would kill her familly. this abuse went on for years, then she had her first baby. Now she cant run because she doesnt want to leave her behind, or fears what garrido will do to her if she does. then she has the second baby and she feels utterly trapped and dependent on this monster.

    It infuriates me that people will look to blame the victims of crime for they're own circumstances.

    if it was they're own daughter, they would never say something like that.

    if it happened to them, they would feel diffrently as well!

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    I have not seen anyone blaming her here, so why start this thread? Are you blaming her?

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    No person that was raised in a loving home such as Jaycee's would CHOOSE this type of life, it was imposed on her. Stockholm Syndrome is very real, and the guilt she probably feels about her dependence on these monsters and the imaginary "bond" she developed with them is horrific enough without the added speculation and accusations as to why she stayed. I will say that thankfully a lot of people don't understand the repercussions of Stockholm Syndrome because they have been spared such a terrible fate, THANKFULLY it doesn't happen more often to create a better understanding of it. I think it's very important for people to remember that Jaycee and her family could very well be monitoring the internet buzz around her story, including WS, and anything said could be viewed as hurtful and damaging. Hopefully her "handlers" have not allowed her access to the internet and news in order to avoid stalling her and the girls healing process. But just in case she is allowed access people should think about what she might be reading before posting nonsensical and accusatory remarks about her or her girls!!
    Last edited by adnoid; 09-22-2009 at 12:57 PM. Reason: That'll do for the insults.

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    no i am not blaming her, nor am i saying anyone on this board was. sorry if i gave that impression.
    I have heard it in circles of people, as i heard the same thing when Elizabeth Smart was found. people just dont understand you know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Natal View Post
    I have not seen anyone blaming her here, so why start this thread? Are you blaming her?
    I, too, have not seen any blame placed on Jaycee here. I don't think klb is saying that either. I think they just wanted to address this because it has been questioned by various media outlets and in passing conversations with people. I also wanted to address because it disturbs me that people aren't more compassionate to her circumstances and don't even try to spare Jaycee of more guilt. It's a careless question when asked "why didn't she just run?"

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    thanks tizzle.
    im new to the board and have a lot to get off my chest....particuarly in this case

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    Quote Originally Posted by kbl8201 View Post
    thanks tizzle.
    im new to the board and have a lot to get off my chest....particuarly in this case
    No worries, I'm new, too.
    I've been following the Sharon Marshall story and only recently decided to join WS. My first posts were on this thread, so thanks for adding your thoughts, they got my attention.

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    Obviously, I have never been in this situation. I have 2 children so I know I would never leave them anywhere or put them in danger. It sounds like for the first 3.5 years, or until she had her first child, she was kept locked in the shed and not allowed out. Eventually, she was given more and more freedom.

    I do NOT understand why, once the kids were older and able to be helpful, she didn't send some kind of message out. When she saw her mom and aunt, she immediately remembered them, so it's not like she didn't remember them anymore. So I'm wondering (AND NOT BLAMING HER AT ALL) but just wondering, why she didn't either 1. Literally run away with the 2 girls (they are old enough to run by themselves, not like she had to carry them, and they could corroborate her story) or 2. Send a message, either through a customer or on the Internet. Even if PG monitored her PC usage, it would have been too late -- she would have already sent the message.

    I see downsides to both: 1. Maybe the girls didn't want to run away with her and I'm sure she wouldn't leave them. 2. Maybe she didn't know too much about the Internet, like how to search for someone such as her mother (since she was 11 and Internet was new when she was abducted).

    Again, I'm not blaming her, but I think it's OK to wonder why she didn't do these things?

    JULIE

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    well she would always remember her family. he could never take that away from her no matter how much he infected her mind......but the truth is i heard he used constant threats against them to keep her in line. the fact that she loved her family probably prevented her from esacping or 'getting a meesage out'. finally when she went to the station with garrido, she felt safe enough to tell the truth. also, her girls thought this was normal family life, didnt know that jaycee was they're mom either......jaycee was in a catch 22 imo

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    No one knows the answer to that, because she hasn't said anything public about it. Everything you have heard is speculation.

    You people keep talking about Stockholm syndrome. If she did indeed have that, threats wouldnt be necessary.


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    stockholm syndrome only came later.
    im sure she had no sympathy for him when she was 11

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    Jaycee may not have run when she was a child because she literally couldn't get out of a locked room or something. Then she had the kids and PG says that he slept with the kids every nite since birth. Then there was that wife of his also keeping guard doing his every command. PG took the girls around with him, says he slept with them, etc. Maybe that was because he was afraid that Jaycee would run away with them. No one knows yet what threats he made after Jaycee was an adult, just how mean he was, or to what measures he went to. They were Jaycee's daughters, but they are also PG's daughters. There's no telling what he said he'd do if they were ever taken away from him or if he got wind of an escape plan. Abusive husbands do that to women all the time, and PG is a deranged lunatic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by txsvicki View Post
    Jaycee may not have run when she was a child because she literally couldn't get out of a locked room or something. Then she had the kids and PG says that he slept with the kids every nite since birth. Then there was that wife of his also keeping guard doing his every command. PG took the girls around with him, says he slept with them, etc. Maybe that was because he was afraid that Jaycee would run away with them. No one knows yet what threats he made after Jaycee was an adult, just how mean he was, or to what measures he went to. They were Jaycee's daughters, but they are also PG's daughters. There's no telling what he said he'd do if they were ever taken away from him or if he got wind of an escape plan. Abusive husbands do that to women all the time, and PG is a deranged lunatic.
    awesome points txvicky

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    Quote Originally Posted by kbl8201 View Post
    stockholm syndrome only came later.
    im sure she had no sympathy for him when she was 11
    Do you mean Stockhold Syndrome came later for Jaycee? Is this something that her therapist or a LE spokesperson has confirmed?

    Thank you for the clarification.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Californian View Post
    Do you mean Stockhold Syndrome came later for Jaycee? Is this something that her therapist or a LE spokesperson has confirmed?

    Thank you for the clarification.
    'no this is my specuatlion. im just assuming all year old being brutalized raped and tazered isnt gonna feel much empathy for the man (and woman) doing it to her. as she got older and he allowed her my freedoms, its safe to assume she felt more empathy and became dependent on him

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