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    WA - Lindsey Baum, 10, McCleary, 26 June 2009 - #13

    Please continue here.

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    continue discussion here. We will not allow copy and paste of myspace or other social networking sites here. If you are asking questions there do not bring the answers back here, that is not what WS is for. If you want to say "look at this comment on whoever's page" that is fine but provide the link only. I removed thread 11 because I am not taking the time right now to go back and delete all the posts that need to be removed.
    Also - note from me: You guys are doing excellent work. Lindsey is blessed to have all of you on her side.

    Praying she is home soon,

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    Bringing this over from the other thread:

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    If someone has possible information they need to contact one (or two or all) of the people listed below.
    Grays Harbor Police operations center at 800-281-6944

    Grays Harbor County Information Hot-line (Tip line) (866) 915-8299

    Grays Harbor County E911 Dispatch Center (360) 533-8765 (out of county)

    McCleary Police (360) 495-3107 or EMAIL soadmin@co.grays-harbor.wa.us

    That is what any of us would do if/when the information is given to us. Why not save a step and contact them yourselves if you have info. They are more apt to believe someone telling it to them first hand then they would if I called and said "Well someone on the internet told me that someone told them... "

    SO.. IF YOU OR ANYONE YOU KNOW HAS INFORMATION PERTAINING TO THE LINDSEY BAUM DISAPPEARANCE... DON'T HOLD ONTO THE INFO WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO CONTACT YOU. Use some common sense.. and CALL THE POLICE.

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    I just want to add that if those who have possible knowledge of Lindsey's disappearence don't hold back information. The Sherrifs office and the FBI field service agents are eager to here the publics concerns. At this point of an investigation nothing is ruled out and someone's info. could connect the dots. Personally LE has followed through with 2 of my concerns which tell me they are invested in this crime perpetrated on Lindsey. There are know stupid questions when a child goes missing and hopefully those who need encouragement to ask their questions will. Now with this in mind can anyone guide me in the direction of the person who is incharge of searches. After listenning to the Ron & Don radio show it seems searches might need some guidence & trained foot searches. I have an idea that could help in the discovery of Lindsey. Thanks for the help. ~<3~ Off to feed the hounds! Whoops, a shout out to those on the ground searching for answers and those behind the scenes that are working dillegently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kageykaren View Post
    I just want to add that if those who have possible knowledge of Lindsey's disappearence don't hold back information. The Sherrifs office and the FBI field service agents are eager to here the publics concerns. At this point of an investigation nothing is ruled out and someone's info. could connect the dots. Personally LE has followed through with 2 of my concerns which tell me they are invested in this crime perpetrated on Lindsey. There are know stupid questions when a child goes missing and hopefully those who need encouragement to ask their questions will. Now with this in mind can anyone guide me in the direction of the person who is incharge of searches. After listenning to the Ron & Don radio show it seems searches might need some guidence & trained foot searches. I have an idea that could help in the discovery of Lindsey. Thanks for the help. ~<3~ Off to feed the hounds! Whoops, a shout out to those on the ground searching for answers and those behind the scenes that are working dillegently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kageykaren View Post
    I just want to add that if those who have possible knowledge of Lindsey's disappearence don't hold back information. The Sherrifs office and the FBI field service agents are eager to here the publics concerns. At this point of an investigation nothing is ruled out and someone's info. could connect the dots. Personally LE has followed through with 2 of my concerns which tell me they are invested in this crime perpetrated on Lindsey. There are know stupid questions when a child goes missing and hopefully those who need encouragement to ask their questions will. Now with this in mind can anyone guide me in the direction of the person who is incharge of searches. After listenning to the Ron & Don radio show it seems searches might need some guidence & trained foot searches. I have an idea that could help in the discovery of Lindsey. Thanks for the help. ~<3~ Off to feed the hounds! Whoops, a shout out to those on the ground searching for answers and those behind the scenes that are working dillegently.
    I have spoke with those who run the search center and you should be able to direct your suggestions to any of the associated volunteers right here on websleuths; JVK, JenniferO, Breanna or Onamission.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kageykaren View Post
    I just want to add that if those who have possible knowledge of Lindsey's disappearence don't hold back information. The Sherrifs office and the FBI field service agents are eager to here the publics concerns. At this point of an investigation nothing is ruled out and someone's info. could connect the dots. Personally LE has followed through with 2 of my concerns which tell me they are invested in this crime perpetrated on Lindsey. There are know stupid questions when a child goes missing and hopefully those who need encouragement to ask their questions will. Now with this in mind can anyone guide me in the direction of the person who is incharge of searches. After listenning to the Ron & Don radio show it seems searches might need some guidence & trained foot searches. I have an idea that could help in the discovery of Lindsey. Thanks for the help. ~<3~ Off to feed the hounds! Whoops, a shout out to those on the ground searching for answers and those behind the scenes that are working dillegently.
    The director of the search center has an email address that you can contact them through

    lindseybaumsearchcenter@yahoo.com

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    Can someone please bump up the information for the vigil this weekend?

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    Candlelight Vigil for Lindsey Baum


    When:
    Saturday, September 26, 2009
    8:00 PM to 9:30 PM PDT

    Where:
    Evergreen Christian Center
    4th & Pine
    McCleary, WA 98557

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    Quote Originally Posted by JenniferO View Post
    The director of the search center has an email address that you can contact them through

    lindseybaumsearchcenter@yahoo.com
    I just found that out a little while ago and was coming to post it so thanks for beating me to it

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    Quote Originally Posted by LookN4Lindsey View Post
    I just found that out a little while ago and was coming to post it so thanks for beating me to it
    Goes directly to Linda, the director of the search center. Hopefully Kagey will email her and give her the information she has.


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    Maybe someone can help me find a past newspaper article that I remember - involved some good quotes from Grays Harbor Undersheriff Rick Scott on the subject of citizen searches. I'll do my best here to share what I recall:

    It's not necessarily the case that LE doesn't condone or support citizen searches.

    What is going on is that LE cannot be seen as using citizens as their agents, LE needs to maintain a clear chain of evidence and procedures so nothing gets tainted before possible court type action.

    So it is not that LE doesn't want us to search, it is that they have to uphold their own rules and policies. We can search and then turn over any locations etc. to LE that we think they might be interested in. Then it is their turn to do their job.

    This wikipedia article Chain of custody is helpful also.

    Because evidence can be used in court to convict persons of crimes, it must be handled in a scrupulously careful manner to avoid later allegations of tampering or misconduct which can compromise the case of the prosecution toward acquittal or to overturning a guilty verdict upon appeal. The idea behind recording the chain of custody is to establish that the alleged evidence is in fact related to the alleged crime - rather than, for example, having been planted fraudulently to make someone appear guilty.
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    SarahC, that is correct. You explained it so well.

    What a lot of people don't see when they are involved in these searches (or just hear about them) is whenever something "odd" or "out of place" is found it is tagged, and we note it on the paperwork that gets handed over to the LE. If something like a possible "crime scene" was to be found our first phone call (before the searchers even come back to the search center) would be to call the police. Every searcher is told to not touch anything, to be aware of where they are walking, and they have contact with the search center at all times. They are free to call us with questions and if needed we can go to the search location to check out whatever they found. If we feel it is something the LE needs to see RIGHT NOW we call them, they come out and we file a report at that minute.
    Otherwise paperwork listing the search areas, maps and things found are turned in after a search weekend to the police. It's their job to figure out if it's related to Lindsey, another crime or nothing.

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    I posted about this over on the dreams/visions thread but I want to make sure more of us have access - with hunting season active there are more people in the woods and that might be important to the search:

    Washington state hunting regs and seasons

    map of locations/game management units


    hunting season dates

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    JenniferO, you amaze me with your tireless dedication to Lindsey and her family. Thank you so much for helping them, and for helping the rest of "us" keep up with them!


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    Quote Originally Posted by coastal View Post
    JenniferO, you amaze me with your tireless dedication to Lindsey and her family. Thank you so much for helping them, and for helping the rest of "us" keep up with them!

    Thank you coastal, but I'm just a small part of the group that is helping Lindsey.

    sherip, jvk, destiney and breanna have actually been more active than myself. They are the ones who have gone out on their own time and searched. They are the ones that follow up on a lot of leads that we get from people online and in the "real world"
    Because of work, my daughters soccer and also another project I've taken on (has to do with fighting with the school district in here in Montesano) I haven't been able to devote as much time to Lindsey as I would like to.

    I know it looks to many people that we aren't doing anything. That is so untrue. We just can't talk about it in public because IF we are onto something we can't jeopardize Lindseys case.

    LE is not actively searching.. but they are active in the searches. We notify them and talk to them on a regular basis. That's just the way something like this works. They say they follow up on the info we give them.. if that's true or not, I have no idea because I stay out of that end of it.
    As much as it sucks.. the police don't have the man power, time or the money to spend looking for Lindsey.. that's why we are here. We are the extra set of eyes for the police. Without volunteers many missing children would never be found. It's a sad reality that I wish could be changed..

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