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    Quote Originally Posted by Natal View Post
    That should be interesting. I think Nancy is one of the big unanswered questions in this case IMO, we know so little about her, what makes her tick.
    "Hybristophilia is a paraphilia involving being sexually aroused or attracted to people who have committed an outrage or a gruesome crime. In popular culture, this phenomenon is also known as "Bonnie and Clyde Syndrome".

    Many high-profile criminals, particularly those who have committed atrocious crimes, receive "fan mail" in prison which is sometimes amorous or sexual, presumably as a result of this phenomenon. In some cases, admirers of these criminals have gone on to marry the object of their affections in prison.

    Hybristophilia is accepted as potentially lethal, other such paraphilias including, but not being limited to asphyxiophilia, autassassinophilia, biastophilia, kleptophilia and chremastistophilia."

    Maybe a little insight as to what makes Nancy tick? Just the tip of the iceberg, I'm sure.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tizzle View Post
    "Hybristophilia is a paraphilia involving being sexually aroused or attracted to people who have committed an outrage or a gruesome crime. In popular culture, this phenomenon is also known as "Bonnie and Clyde Syndrome".

    Many high-profile criminals, particularly those who have committed atrocious crimes, receive "fan mail" in prison which is sometimes amorous or sexual, presumably as a result of this phenomenon. In some cases, admirers of these criminals have gone on to marry the object of their affections in prison.

    Hybristophilia is accepted as potentially lethal, other such paraphilias including, but not being limited to asphyxiophilia, autassassinophilia, biastophilia, kleptophilia and chremastistophilia."

    Maybe a little insight as to what makes Nancy tick? Just the tip of the iceberg, I'm sure.
    if nancy was a cna it kinda makes kathy bates in misery look like florence nightengale........


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    It's hard to say whats up with Nancy because there is so little info about her, unlike PG. She seems to have been pretty reclusive, and most of the folks who might know something haven't really said anything yet.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Natal View Post
    It's hard to say whats up with Nancy because there is so little info about her, unlike PG. She seems to have been pretty reclusive, and most of the folks who might know something haven't really said anything yet.
    im afraid she's gonna have a ton of "character witnesses" that will put the blame on garrido's 'brainwashing".
    to me this is absurd. she wasnt an 11 year old snatched off the streets and brutalied repeatedly for years..........she willingly and knowingly married this jerk while he was in prison (and she knew what he was in for) and then SHE was the one who snathed jaycee from the bus stop. and then SHE Was the one who didnt let jaycee go or call the cops when he was locked up (even if it was only for a month).


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    Quote Originally Posted by JulieNMM View Post
    Playing devil's advocate here: Since PG is their bio father (a DNA test will prove this but others have said he has a resemblance to them and JC confirms it) and since we don't KNOW under what circumstances they lived (did they live outdoors, sleep with him, etc) isn't there a chance that the courts could theoretically allow him visitation, or even demand that their mother (JC) make them visit with him?

    I was reading the blog of someone here's daughter (I forget her name) and she was a survivor of spousal rape and abuse and the courts said that she had to allow her children to have visitation with the father, even though he had been convicted of assaulting the mom and had served time for it. So what if these "brilliant" LE types decide that PG should be allowed visitation with his children and then the courts have to enforce it??

    As far as the 2 girls know, maybe this is how they think a normal family lives. Maybe they don't see it as wrong as we do? Maybe they even want to see their parents again (and by parents, I mean the people that they assumed were their parents -- PG and NG). Of course, JC knew the situation was wrong and so did PG and NG, but this is all the girls knew....

    Just food for thought! Of course I think PG and NG are evil scum, but I'm just trying to look at this from the point of view of the law and the rights of bio fathers.

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    LOL, even though others may not want to hear it IMO you are going down the right path. If PG is established as the children's father, he will be their legal father unless Jaycee takes action to terminate his rights through the courts. But traditionally though the court won't terminate a father's rights because he is in prison, they usually won't require the kids to attend visitation at the prison. Jaycee would probably be able to find grounds for teminating his rights if she wished to do so.

    Yes, at some point the girls may want to visit PG and even NG. Hopefully they will get a lot of counseling before that time. But you have to remember that no matter what PG and NG may have done to Jaycee, the girls never experienced that. What they experienced from them was the nearest thing to parenting that they know. And even very abused kids will often want the love and support of their parents. So yes, they may want to see them, at some point may even visit them. But this time when they see them they will see them through different, more experienced eyes. They will have counseling, some idea of the history, experience of living in a home and relationships with other relatives. So going to see the G's with the comparison of their new experiences might not be such a bad thing.

    As far as Jaycee, she is an adult. And yes, she might or might not wish to visit them. She lived with them for 18 years. She has admitted establishing a bond with them. She is in charge of her life now, and is in charge of her choices. If she needs to see them in order to resolve that part of her life then I hope she goes for it.

    As far as PG ever parenting them again, I don't anticipate that PG will be out of prison until long after they are of age. Same goes with NG.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kbl8201 View Post
    if nancy was a cna it kinda makes kathy bates in misery look like florence nightengale........
    My father passed away a year ago and was in the hospital for a few days. He had a CNA who stayed with him and she would basically just hold his hand and make sure that he didn't pull his tubes out and stuff. Nothing major. That inspired my sister to want to become a nurse and she is going to school. She said the first step to becoming a "real" nurse is to become a CNA and you can become one after just one semester of schooling. My husband's ex-wife is a registered nurse and she had to go to school for 4 years and get a degree.

    So their is a big difference between a CNA and a registered nurse. RNs are almost like doctors and CNAs are almost like volunteers. So what I'm trying to say is, just because NG was a CNA doesn't mean she had medical training (or very much)....

    JULIE


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    Quote Originally Posted by JulieNMM View Post
    My father passed away a year ago and was in the hospital for a few days. He had a CNA who stayed with him and she would basically just hold his hand and make sure that he didn't pull his tubes out and stuff. Nothing major. That inspired my sister to want to become a nurse and she is going to school. She said the first step to becoming a "real" nurse is to become a CNA and you can become one after just one semester of schooling. My husband's ex-wife is a registered nurse and she had to go to school for 4 years and get a degree.

    So their is a big difference between a CNA and a registered nurse. RNs are almost like doctors and CNAs are almost like volunteers. So what I'm trying to say is, just because NG was a CNA doesn't mean she had medical training (or very much)....

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    julie i think cna or registered nurse is a great occupation. but i cant imagine what a hypocrite ng would have to be to be one.......imagine her sitting
    next to someone trying to ease there pain......all the while knowing what she and her sicko husband are doing to a little girl at home


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    I doubt Jaycee would ever visit them, unless it is to taunt them. The kids might go though.

    And PG will never get out of prison, he is far too dangerous. Nancy however will probably get out eventually on parole. They might do a deal for her as well.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Natal View Post
    I doubt Jaycee would ever visit them, unless it is to taunt them. The kids might go though.

    And PG will never get out of prison, he is far too dangerous. Nancy however will probably get out eventually on parole. They might do a deal for her as well.
    parole for kidnapping and accesory to rape of a child? extradite her to texas so she can get the gas chamber. her hubby too


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    Quote Originally Posted by kbl8201 View Post
    parole for kidnapping and accesory to rape of a child? extradite her to texas so she can get the gas chamber. her hubby too
    Phil only did 11 years for his first kidnapping and rape. Nancy may, very well, do about the same amount of time, give or take a couple years. Unfortunately, the justice system constantly fails us when it comes to crimes against women and especially children. Although, this particular case is under a huge spotlight, HOPEFULLY she will be treated more harshly than Phil was in the 70's since we're all watching.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tizzle View Post
    Phil only did 11 years for his first kidnapping and rape. Nancy may, very well, do about the same amount of time, give or take a couple years. Unfortunately, the justice system constantly fails us when it comes to crimes against women and especially children. Although, this particular case is under a huge spotlight, HOPEFULLY she will be treated more harshly than Phil was in the 70's since we're all watching.
    your 100 percent right tizzle. i think the state has enough to nail both of them without cutting a deal with either though. i hope


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    Quote Originally Posted by LinasK View Post
    Thing is... Nancy was employed as a CNA. When it comes to that type of patient care, productivity is not an issue. It's not like you have to see a certain number of patients.
    i was commenting on how nothing got done at home, so it
    became a junkpile. NG was fired from Diamond Ridge Healthcare. But you're
    certainly right in that productivity is often not measured on the job, and
    no doubt contributes to the rise in healthcosts , and other ways.


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    Inside Edition Interview with Nancy Garrido's Brothers

    Article on Inside Edition website about interview with Nancy Garrido's brothers, David and Rey Bocanegra:

    http://www.insideedition.com/news.aspx?storyId=3433


    David told McInerney about his last phone conversation with his sister three years ago.

    "When I was talking to her and she was answering back to me, it was Phillip telling her what to say."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tizzle View Post
    Phil only did 11 years for his first kidnapping and rape. Nancy may, very well, do about the same amount of time, give or take a couple years. Unfortunately, the justice system constantly fails us when it comes to crimes against women and especially children. Although, this particular case is under a huge spotlight, HOPEFULLY she will be treated more harshly than Phil was in the 70's since we're all watching.
    That depends on whether they want to avoid a trial or not. They could offer her a deal, something like a conviction on the kidnapping and imprisonment charges, and a dismisal of the rape charges in return for a guilty plea. Then a reduced sentence for co-operating. That way they could avoid having a trial in which Jaycee and/or the girls would have to testify. She won't plead guilty unless they give her something in return.

    They don't need to have a trial for PG because he can be sent away forever on the parole violation alone. Also, PG can be convicted on two statutory rape charges without Jaycee testifying at all, since the DNA of the children will provide irrefutable proof of the states case.


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    I believe that the accused in this country have a right to a trial.


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