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    FL - Tampa Bay, WhtMale 1321UMFL, 15-25, Sunshine Skyway Bridge, Oct'80

    Doe Network case 1321UMFL (can someone link it for me, mine didn't come out right)

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1321umfl.html

    The victim was discovered on October 10, 1980 in St. Petersburg, Pinellas County, Florida

    Vital Statistics

    • Estimated age: 11-20 years old
    • Approximate Height and Weight: 5'6"; 125 lbs.
    • Distinguishing Characteristics: Light brown, neck length hair; Possibly brown eyes. Clean shaven.
    • Clothing: New "Sears" blue jeans; dark rust colored jockey underwear; white socks.


    Case History
    The victim was found floating near Skyway Bridge in Tampa Bay, St. Petersburg, Florida on October 10, 1980.
    Last edited by CarlK90245; 03-28-2013 at 01:34 AM. Reason: added link
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    I know it's a long shot, but this young boy caught my eye, I guess it's possible he was held for years.

    http://www.missingkids.com/missingki...archLang=en_US
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    11 to 20 is a regrettably wide age range. The reconstruction pics clearly favour an older-teen age range.

    ETA: There seems to be no info available anywhere on the state of the remains when found and how long since death, etc. They couldn't even tell for sure what colour his eyes were.

    It's incredibly sad when no one claims the remains of a child! Is there seriously no missing person report that fits this boy that couldn't be found in the past 30 years?
    Last edited by WhyaDuck?; 09-26-2009 at 10:58 PM.

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    This is most likely way off, but I wonder if this could be.............

    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/k/keck_robert.html

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    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/18dmal.html
    Would be about 5 years too old and would have had to have been held somewhere for years. The others are long shots too, though, so anything is possible.

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/392dmsau.html
    Geographical and time long shot.

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/805dmil.html
    Long shot due to time missing, but if he did run away from home, it wouldn't be odd for a boy from IL to run away to FL.

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1876dmca.html
    I think Derran has a bit of resemblance.

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/4dmor.html
    A little resemblance here too.

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1426dmfl.html
    FL connection.

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/2352dmca.html
    Timeframe is right and there is a physical resemblance.

    This guy is also in namus, with a listing of about 1 day since death and a recognizable face.
    https://identifyus.org/?p=case&i=129...SC&from=search

    Sorry about the marathon post, but i can be a little obsessive sometimes.
    JMO. Unless there's a link, I can't prove it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by not_my_kids View Post
    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/18dmal.html
    Would be about 5 years too old and would have had to have been held somewhere for years. The others are long shots too, though, so anything is possible.


    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/2352dmca.html
    Timeframe is right and there is a physical resemblance.
    The age range has changed, he's estimated to be 15-25 years old according to the Doe page now so five years too old for 11-20 might work for 15-25.

    https://identifyus.org/cases/1296

    The Doe is not DMCA2352 who used to be Perry Nickerson. He was found safe 30 years after his disappearance.
    Perry William Nickerson: June 18, 1980 from Covina, Los Angeles County, California - Crimeshotsİ True Crime Forums

    Found Alive CA - Perry William Nickerson, 16, Covina, 18 June 1980 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

    He is not the following people either:
    John Aponte 1962 Guam
    John Dial 1943 Texas
    Michael Gaughan 1957 Texas
    Alfred Grimes 1954 California
    Phillip Montoya 1959 California
    Robert Parks 1961 Arizona
    Mitchel Weiser 1956 New York
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhyaDuck? View Post
    11 to 20 is a regrettably wide age range. The reconstruction pics clearly favour an older-teen age range.

    ETA: There seems to be no info available anywhere on the state of the remains when found and how long since death, etc. They couldn't even tell for sure what colour his eyes were.

    It's incredibly sad when no one claims the remains of a child! Is there seriously no missing person report that fits this boy that couldn't be found in the past 30 years?
    According to NAMUS: "Had been in the water an estimated 18 - 24 hours. No apparent trauma." NAMUS also indicates what they describe as fine hairs on the upper lip, so it sounds like either his beard hadn't come in yet, or he was either only lightly bearded.

    Poor guy. He looks a lot like somebody my daughter dated back when she was in high school.
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    This young man is so recognizable that I have to wonder if he was a known death where the body was never found. Perhaps he was a drowning victim or involved in a boating accident. I searched to see if FL had any public records on these types of incidents and was surprised to find the bridge where he was found had partially collapsed five months earlier. Sunshine Skyway Bridge - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia There were two major accidents in 1980. I don't suppose he could have been a victim from either because the medical examiner believed he was dead less than 24 hours, but it makes me wonder even more about this young man. Was the bridge was even open for auto traffic when he was found? Off to sleuth some more.
    Last edited by KateB; 05-02-2015 at 02:28 PM. Reason: repair url tag.

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    Oh. There is a whole website dedicated to suicides on this bridge. I am not sure I wanted to find that. But the scanned articles from this time period are helpful.


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    I've been digging through area papers on Google News for the last hour and a half-- I am thinking it's really strange that I haven't been able to find ANY mentions of our UID. Maybe he was never identified because this wasn't publicized in the local media? There are dozens of articles about other UIDs... and I'm turning up nothing about this one.

    It also seems strange that missing/unidentified bridge suicide victims is such a common problem for LE in this area, yet that wasn't mentioned in any of this Doe's documentation. (You'd think they'd at least note whether he was/wasn't a probable suicide, if a car was found, if someone saw a person jump around that time...)

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    I have a difficult time finding information on UIDs quite often.

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    Thank you, Kimster. I just had really high hopes when the location and time period had so much news archived freely online, and it turned up nothing new.

    I messaged the owner of the bridge website, just in case he was aware of anything fitting this incident, and he was kind enough to respond-- no matches. I promise I'll stop threadsitting now!!

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    FL Pinellas Co, 15-25 yr old white male,Oct 1980

    White male found floating in Tampa Bay. Estimated in water 18-24 hours, recognizable face. Found October, 10,1980, 5'5", 125 lbs, brown hair, brown eyes and wearing Sear's brand blue jeans.

    https://identifyus.org/cases/1296
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    Last edited by Houston Mom; 05-05-2014 at 10:43 PM.
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    Brian Page, 16 years old, 5'6", 140 lbs, brown hair, brown eyes, missing Jan 1975 from Oregon.

    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/ca...nt_page=photos
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    For I the Lord thy God will hold they right hand, saying unto thee, Fear not; I will help thee. ~Is 41:13

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