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  1. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by watcher9 View Post
    Or Georgia?

    O/T I sure miss Wolfscratch... He always seemed to be on top of everything.
    Worth asking why Georgia isn't interested in anything found at that campsite. Who decides what matters as far as evidence goes? Is it simpler than what we have been led to believe?

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    Hilton said he took his captive hiking that next to last day. After that, around 4:30 pm he went to the Huddle House looking for a phone to use. He had no qualms about sitting inside yakking loudly for 20 minutes. His van was parked at a far corner, out of site but this is a man who said he didn't want to fill his gas tank up because a car was parked at the other side of the island. How are we to interpret the time he spent sitting in a booth at the Huddle House if Meredith Emerson was out in the van? He wasn't worried about keeping an eye on the van then was he? Could he see the van from his vantage point?

    He was very public. There are comments that describe how he was always camped where he didn't have any business. How do you reconcile the very private and secretive acts like that discovery of camping gear with being parked on public land or a private hunt club and being checked out by the law over and over and simply chased off?

    I think if a person was to sit down and make a list of all the reported encounters with Hilton it wouldn't amount to a long list with all that much real information. There were many grizzled hikers. Some had dogs. Some did not. Some had big knives on their belts. Some had guns they flashed from their waist. I am talking about both the people reported to be Hilton and those making the report.
    Last edited by tater; 10-13-2009 at 04:32 AM.

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    I haven't spent time researching this but Sam Rael attended both undergraduate and law school at Yale University. Then he came to Atlanta.

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    Greetings, first time poster. I've been keeping up with GMH since ME was abducted and believe that he is responsible for many many unsolved cases and missing persons - just so you know my bottom line. The purpose of my post today is an inquiry - related to the vehicle tag on the van he was driving when arrested in Atlanta area in Jan 2008. Do any of you fellow sluths know whether the tag was identified as to it's owner?
    The couple that saw GMH unloading the van called 911; the entire 911 call tape was released to the media. During the call, the male was describing the van and said it had a North Carolina tag. Does anyone know whether GMH had a legit NC tag or whether the tag was stolen and if so to whom it belonged?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustyThoughts View Post
    Greetings, first time poster. I've been keeping up with GMH since ME was abducted and believe that he is responsible for many many unsolved cases and missing persons - just so you know my bottom line. The purpose of my post today is an inquiry - related to the vehicle tag on the van he was driving when arrested in Atlanta area in Jan 2008. Do any of you fellow sluths know whether the tag was identified as to it's owner?
    The couple that saw GMH unloading the van called 911; the entire 911 call tape was released to the media. During the call, the male was describing the van and said it had a North Carolina tag. Does anyone know whether GMH had a legit NC tag or whether the tag was stolen and if so to whom it belonged?

    [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=58653"]Attention all Members - Printing False Information - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame]
    That should answer your question about the theft of the tag.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustyThoughts View Post
    Greetings, first time poster. I've been keeping up with GMH since ME was abducted and believe that he is responsible for many many unsolved cases and missing persons - just so you know my bottom line. The purpose of my post today is an inquiry - related to the vehicle tag on the van he was driving when arrested in Atlanta area in Jan 2008. Do any of you fellow sluths know whether the tag was identified as to it's owner?
    The couple that saw GMH unloading the van called 911; the entire 911 call tape was released to the media. During the call, the male was describing the van and said it had a North Carolina tag. Does anyone know whether GMH had a legit NC tag or whether the tag was stolen and if so to whom it belonged?
    Welcome to Websleuths, JustyThoughts! :Welcome-12-june:

    Hilton stole the NC plates he had on the van from an innocent woman..
    Last edited by MeoW333; 10-13-2009 at 02:19 PM. Reason: add about tags license plates
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    Quote Originally Posted by tater View Post
    Hilton said he took his captive hiking that next to last day. After that, around 4:30 pm he went to the Huddle House looking for a phone to use. He had no qualms about sitting inside yakking loudly for 20 minutes. His van was parked at a far corner, out of site but this is a man who said he didn't want to fill his gas tank up because a car was parked at the other side of the island. How are we to interpret the time he spent sitting in a booth at the Huddle House if Meredith Emerson was out in the van? He wasn't worried about keeping an eye on the van then was he? Could he see the van from his vantage point?

    He was very public. There are comments that describe how he was always camped where he didn't have any business. How do you reconcile the very private and secretive acts like that discovery of camping gear with being parked on public land or a private hunt club and being checked out by the law over and over and simply chased off?


    I think if a person was to sit down and make a list of all the reported encounters with Hilton it wouldn't amount to a long list with all that much real information. There were many grizzled hikers. Some had dogs. Some did not. Some had big knives on their belts. Some had guns they flashed from their waist. I am talking about both the people reported to be Hilton and those making the report.
    Where did Hilton say he took his captive hiking the next to the last day?
    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by climbergirl View Post
    Where did Hilton say he took his captive hiking the next to the last day?
    Thanks.
    If the question is the source for this statement, it is in the transcript of his confession beginning before line 67 where he describes how he and Meredith Emerson spent that day. This is also included in the timeline provided by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation. If it's the geographical location of where they where, we have to rely on the same sources.

    "THE NEXT DAY. WE TOOK BOTH DOGS AND WENT
    HIKING ALONG, ALONG SHOAL CREEK.

    "SHE WAS NOT HAVING A BAD TIME AT ALL AND ENJOYING HERSELF ON
    THE HIKE. I COULD TELL THAT.
    CB: UH HUH.
    GMH: COMMENTING HOW BEAUTIFUL IT WAS WE HIKED FOR SEVERAL
    HOURS
    CB: OKAY.
    GMH: ALONG SHOAL CREEK. PART OF IT WAS ON AN EQUESTRIAN TRAIL
    AND PART OF IT WAS CROSS COUNTRY.

    GMH: AND UH, WE HIKED UH, FOR SEVERAL HOURS THAT DAY. WITH THE
    DOGS. THE DOGS WERE LOOSE, SHE WAS LOOSE . . .

    CB: THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN ON THE THIRD. THE SECOND WAS THE DAY
    YOU WERE IN CANTON. AND . . .
    GMH: THEN THE THIRD . . .
    CB: YOU WENT HIKING FOR SEVERAL HOURS

    GMH: I SAID WE'LL GO HIKING. THAT'S WHY WE SPENT TWO NIGHTS
    THERE.
    CB: UH HUH.
    GMH: OKAY. I SAID WE'LL GO HIKING AND THEN WE'LL . . .
    SS: I'M SORRY. THEY WANT TO ASK A QUESTION . . .

    GMH: AND SO WE WENT HIKING THAT DAY. AND THEN WE HEADED
    OSTENSIBLY TO GET SOME MONEY FROM MY FRIEND.
    CB: UH HUH.
    GMH: I STOPPED AT THAT CAR, THAT, THAT PHONE IN A HUDDLE HOUSE
    OR WAFFLE HOUSE . . ."


    Hilton/Emerson hiked the trails at Dawson Forest. 1/03/08 per Hiton's interview. They had camped off Highway 9 the night before.
    Last edited by tater; 10-14-2009 at 06:40 PM.

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    Another collection of Hilton's case files has been released, heavily redacted and still failing to name witnesses or identify specific items of evidence. Surveillance tapes from the neighboring businesses were gathered up and requests made to NASA to enhance those from the CVS on 12/3.

    from the Democrat,

    Authorities subpoenaed Dunlap's cell-phone records, home phone and Ameris Bank records. They also searched Dunlap's Yahoo! e-mail account.

    In Hilton's case, investigators checked his credit report.

    Interesting information like oral swabs of the wrecker driver who transported Dunlap's car were taken.

    Two items seized from Dunlap's 2006 white Toyota Camry were redacted; however, Dunlap's purse and keys were found in the car. And the Wakulla County Sheriff's Office found two jars of cash in the car. Though the cover page for the Medical Examiner's Report was in the documents, the actual report was not released.

    http://www.wctv.tv/home/headlines/64333542.html
    http://www.tallahassee.com/article/2...avily+redacted
    Last edited by tater; 10-15-2009 at 05:59 AM.

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    For those interested in Hilton's movements around 1/1/08 these dates are from the GBI timeline documenting when Hilton was witnessed at various places either by people or cameras:


    12/31/07 3:15 - 3:45pm Eyewitness NL sees Hilton at trail head of Byron Herbert Reese Memorial Trail

    6 - 7 pm Hilton photographed at trail head


    1/01/08 1 pm Hilton spotted in parking lot and on the trail
    by 4:40 items found on the trail had been turned in to Neals Gap store.

    7:05 - 7:19pm bank in Blairsville
    9:00 - 10:00pm bank in Gainsville


    1/02/08 1:15 pm eyewitnessed by JC at campsite at Shoal Creek Road, Dawson Forest
    8:02pm Regions Bank Canton

    1/03/08 4:30pm Hilton in Jasper at Foothills Chevron
    4:35pm Weavers Store in Marble Hill to call boss
    4:40pm Huddle House called boss

    1/04/08 10:15 am MA sees Hilton on Shoal Creek Road at Shoal Creek in Dawson Forest WMA (Dawson incident report)

    1/04/08 12:30pm JT sees Hilton on Shoal Creek Road in Dawson Forest WMA

    1/04/08 1:12 pm Motor Vehicle Query Lic 766 XPZ DeKalb County PD

    1/0408 3 pm SC sees him at the QT in Cumming

    1/04/08 4:30pm SS sees him on payphone at QT

    1/04/08 4:41 pm Hilton calls friend Shawn from payphone at QT

    1/04/08 8:00pm arrested in Chamblee

    1/07/08 MVQ White Co on tags 766XPZ

    There are some big gaps of time between some of this activity. I would like to know more about the MVQ on 1/04. That was hours before his activity in town. That MVQ on 1/07 also makes me ask what that could be about? He was already locked up.


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    Leslie Beebe was missing for eight days before she was found in her car. Found less than 6 miles from where GMH lived at his bosses place of work when Leslie was murdered. Odd that Leslie went missing in Roswell, GA and was found so close to where GMH lived at the time? GMH could have walked or biked that far. Could GMH have killed Leslie Beebe?
    Last edited by dsntslp; 12-08-2009 at 11:44 PM.

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    A = where GMH lived at his boss' business.
    B = where Leslie Beebe was found deceased.

    http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=41...09863&t=h&z=13

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    Quote Originally Posted by dsntslp View Post
    A = where GMH lived at his boss' business.
    B = where Leslie Beebe was found deceased.

    http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=41...09863&t=h&z=13
    dsntslp, that is a good catch, maybe call it in to the FBI or GBI? In my opinion, i really think Hilton has a lot of victims out there.. he's too comfortable with killing, he's been doing this awhile.
    "The cure for crime is not the electric chair, but the high chair."

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    I did find something online about Leslie's death:

    "Fulton County police kept a tight lid Thursday on information about the investigation of what they call the "suspicious death" of a Roswell nurse.

    The body of Leslie Beebe, 26, was found slumped down in her car Tuesday morning, a week after she was last seen leaving an Alpharetta sports bar.
    Police will not say whether they are searching for a killer or suspect foul play. An autopsy Wednesday revealed "no obvious manner or means" of death, said Capt. Cal Latham.

    Latham said homicide detectives want to know more about Beebe's whereabouts during the week and whether she ingested something that could have caused death."

    http://findcarrie.conforums.com/inde...num=1103743000

    (you have to scroll down a bit to find the article) titled:
    Police say little in death of Roswell nurse
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    on Dec 24th, 2004, 12:30am

    It does seem to fit Hilton's M.O. of getting grossly "personal" with his murdering, however you never know..anything is possible. It should definitely be looked at, at the very least to rule it out, imo.
    "The cure for crime is not the electric chair, but the high chair."

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    GMH was known to have two white vans at different times. When did GMH obtain the second white van? When did the white van before that break down?

    Beebe worked closer to Atlanta, left work and went N to Roswell close to her home. Why would she travel South again close to Atlanta? Her killer had to live close to where she was found. IMO
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