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  1. #1441
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    I am not sure if this has been asked/addressed earlier but quick questions that come to mind and hope someone can help answer. How far into the base was his duplex? Were there MPs at the entrance of the base? Military bases are usually gated and guarded, not sure of security during that time though.

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  2. #1442
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    I have no idea what to think about Jeff McDonald's guilt or innocence. My dad was in the army in 1970 (I was a toddler) and we were stationed/living in Killeen Tx. As a teen my mom told me about this case and over the years I come back to it. I've not read Fatal Vision or any of the books about the case, but have read many of the actual trial documents. I certainly won't profess extensive knowledge of it but the main thing I always come back to is the military trial. I was under the impression (maybe wrongly) that military court was run with much more precision, less collusion between judges/prosecutors/and police, harsher approach in proving guilt or innocence as the military is all about (I thought) honor and justice and less likely to be biased (by bribes, pandering judges trying to be re-elected etc). McDonald's military trial didn't prosecute due to "lack of evidence proving his guilt" and he was honorably discharged. He also passed a lie detector test "in overwhelming fashion". Ibe no idea really if he did it or not..we probably never will know unless we invent technology to read his mind, but it really stumps me that a military court/JAG found nothing substantial to tie to him yet 9 years later, all this "evidence" appeared and he was convicted. Which court bungled the in investigation? The military or the govt? Only one court can be right. Military (innocent), or govt (guilty). Anyone have any insight?

  3. #1443
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    Thank you. When I originally wrote it the paragraphs did not look so jumbled in the preview. As for the house, it looks largely the same (I can take a photo if you'd like). I am not sure if it really was destroyed and rebuilt as I arrived to Bragg in 2010, and again since the place looks very much the same. The numbers of the address have been changed though, presumably to deter tourists.

  4. #1444
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    Quote Originally Posted by jj44 View Post
    I am not sure if this has been asked/addressed earlier but quick questions that come to mind and hope someone can help answer. How far into the base was his duplex? Were there MPs at the entrance of the base? Military bases are usually gated and guarded, not sure of security during that time though.

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    The duplex is actually only about 1/4 mile from Bragg Blvd. In 1970 it was an open post so anyone had access.

  5. #1445
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    Quote Originally Posted by jj44 View Post
    I am not sure if this has been asked/addressed earlier but quick questions that come to mind and hope someone can help answer. How far into the base was his duplex? Were there MPs at the entrance of the base? Military bases are usually gated and guarded, not sure of security during that time though.

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    I lived close to Ft Bragg back at that time. My cousin lived in Fayetteville, NC. At the time of the murders, Ft. Bragg was an open base -- meaning that anyone could drive through the base on "regular roads." Anyone could have driven down MacDonald's street on the base. I'm sure there were areas that were restricted -- training areas, etc. In fact, I went to a large family-type jamboree-cook-out when I was a teenager with a neighbor family who were definitely non-military folks. Roads in and out were open & unguarded. Since 911, as we know, all military base entrances, etc., are closely guarded, fenced, & totally restricted.


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  6. #1446
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    Something that should have tipped off investigators from almost the very start that MacDonald’s account was a crock was that when the MPs arrived, the house was dark. (There was no power blackout despite the rain.) Consider JM’s account and then see if you can discern for yourselves what I mean by that. Hint: Almost no one thinks this horrific crime was premeditated before that fateful night. It was sudden rage. Therefore, the good doctor had to think fast regarding his attempted cover-up. it was inevitable he’d make a mistake like this one (and others).

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    Quote Originally Posted by fatdumplins View Post
    Thank you. When I originally wrote it the paragraphs did not look so jumbled in the preview. As for the house, it looks largely the same (I can take a photo if you'd like). I am not sure if it really was destroyed and rebuilt as I arrived to Bragg in 2010, and again since the place looks very much the same. The numbers of the address have been changed though, presumably to deter tourists.

    ABC 11 Eyewitness News

    March 14, 2008 9:00:00 PM PDT

    FORT BRAGG -- A notorious Fort Bragg crime scene was destroyed Saturday. Authorities say former Army doctor and Green Beret, Jeffrey MacDonald, killed his pregnant wife Colette MacDonald and their two daughters, 6-year-old Kimberly and 2-year-old Kristen Jean.

    They were found stabbed to death in the early morning of February 17th 1970 in their home. A jury convicted MacDonald nine years later.

    The home is now one of 28 demolished to make room for a new neighborhood center.


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