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    WS members named in ongoing cases

    This past week has brought on the issue of WS members "involved" in cases in one way or another. Both the Caylee thread and the Lindsey Baum threads have had issues with members being named. There is some confusion as to how to deal with discussing cases where members are named in ongoing cases and many of our other members aren't sure how to handle it.

    Can we have some clarification as to what we can and cannot discuss? Especially when sleuthers are named on doc dumps and are even potential suspects in a case?

    Thanks so much!

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    I agree this issue does need to be addressed and discussed. With Lindsey Baum's case getting ready to break wide open tomorrow, the question remains of how we are to handle the subject of one of our members being in the immediate family of the POI and subject to LE scrutiny of the searches?

    The member allegedly associated to the POI and the search made it clear in a post he/she no longer wanted to post on WS, I also do not understand why this wasn't a reason to ban as it has been the standard in the past to grant them their wish. It would certainly take care of the issue of us discussing a current member, imo.
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    TY for the quick response, but I am still confused! Does this mean that we can't discuss a named POI if they are a member here?

    ETA: BBM

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    In my opinion, if posters post inside information about a case because their real-life identities are involved in or close to a crime, their identities should be verified and revealed. However, if posters want to post anonymously with their opinions and analysis and not reveal inside (unpublished or non-public) information, even if they are the perp himself/herself, their real-life identities should be protected as much as the real-life identities of the rest of the membership.
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    Steadfast, if I'm understanding you correctly, are you saying we can discuss the POI information as released in the media but not link the fact that a member is that person? I hope I am making sense.

    This issue has me very confused! I'm thinking that any POI in the future will be able to sign up and be a member and therefore are protected from being discussed. But I can see that we shouldn't be able to say "Oh, 'so and so' is the perp in this investigation!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimster View Post
    Steadfast, if I'm understanding you correctly, are you saying we can discuss the POI information as released in the media but not link the fact that a member is that person? I hope I am making sense.

    This issue has me very confused! I'm thinking that any POI in the future will be able to sign up and be a member and therefore are protected from being discussed. But I can see that we shouldn't be able to say "Oh, 'so and so' is the perp in this investigation!"
    Yes, that's exactly what I think. Of course we can discuss the POI -- in fact, I think if the person is officially a POI, we should be able to discuss them by at least initials even if the info hasn't been published in the press.
    BUT, if they or someone connected to them is a member, even if many other posters know that, I don't think they should be outed as long as they aren't posting AS THEMSELVES. (For instance, "I didn't do it" or "My son was at home during the crime.")
    Look at it this way: let's say Jane Doe is the mom of a POI. She posts here as "XYZ." We are allowed to post about Jane Doe and write, "Jane Doe's son is guilty." But we are not allowed to post, "I bet Jane Doe is XYZ" or "XYS's son is guilty."
    She is allowed to post things like "Jane Doe's son is probably not guilty" and remain anonymous. But if she posts, "My son is not guilty because I know he was at home," then she's outed herself and her real identity needs to be verified and made known.
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    Steadfast, your "BBM" made that clearer for me!

    So I'm going to make this as simple as I can. Let's say I'm involved in a crime that becomes a thread on WS. My name comes out publicly. We will be able to sleuth my real name in the media as long as no one makes mention of my WS hat or their suspicions that the perp is me, right?

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    GMTA ! My last post went out there at the same time as yours! Okay, we are on the same page now! Let's make sure Adnoid is with us since he's our fearless leader!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimster View Post
    Steadfast, your "BBM" made that clearer for me!

    So I'm going to make this as simple as I can. Let's say I'm involved in a crime that becomes a thread on WS. My name comes out publicly. We will be able to sleuth my real name in the media as long as no one makes mention of my WS hat or their suspicions that the perp is me, right?
    Yes. Actually, that has happened pretty often. It's an open secret that can't be discussed -- not even in PM's.

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    Ok Steadfast. I didn't know that and now I don't want to know! LOL


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    I agree with adnoid posters are members first as far as their "hat" goes. If someone posts here claiming inside information, a mod should be notified because we just cannot read every post.

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    Thank you for weighing in, Animal! So many of us were pussyfooting around not knowing what to do exactly. This makes it a lot easier! to you and Adnoid and Steadfast!!!

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    Thank you again, Adnoid! This should be clear as day for everyone now!

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    Hi there, Does WS still have a policy where members who are close to the case in some way being required to register w/ Admin to verify who they are, which then allows them to post? I am not talking about a POI necessarily.

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by adnoid View Post
    If you want to post things like "Hey, I'm related to one of the people and I want to post some info" you need to talk to Tricia. If you just want to read and/or post without revealing inside info then no.

    The idea is to prevent people from posting fake "inside" info. You will notice that sometimes people will do that, but refuse to talk to Tricia, in which case one of the mods will generally post a disclaimer that the board is anonymous and anyone can post anything, that doesn't make it true.

    Does that help?
    Yes, Thanks Adnoid xox

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