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    NH - Kimberly Cates, 42, dead, 11yo girl maimed, Mont Vernon, 4 Oct 2009

    Prosecutors Say Machete, Knife Used In Mont Vernon Killing
    AG: Woman Stabbed While In Bed

    http://www.wmur.com/news/21213678/detail.html

    "Senior Assistant Attorney General Will Delker said Cates' home was chosen because it was on an isolated road. He said that Cates was stabbed to death in her bed, while her daughter was seriously injured and had to undergo surgery.


    "The homeowner was killed in her bed, and a young child was very, very seriously injured," Delker said. "The information that the state has developed to date is that all four of these defendants were aware before they entered the home that the intent was to kill."
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    Apparently these four losers drove over there at 1:00 am on Sunday morning armed with a machete and a knife to rob and kill this woman because she had a home in an isolated area. I have to wonder if they dreamed this up watching some of the movies that are so popular these days, like "Funny Games" and another one I can't think of the name of....
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    That's just horrible! I hope these monsters never see freedom again.

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    Looking at the picture of the house, it doesn't appear to be the home of a very wealthy person---why would they target a middle-income family to rob? Did they know she was a nurse and thought maybe she'd have meds. around the home? Why would it have to be a "given" that murder was part of the robbery plan if they didn't know her? And how in the heck can young men chop up a woman and an 11 year old little girl?

    I am just so sick of hearing about crimes like this. Just had to let off a little steam.

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    This is why women living in isolated areas need a dog or siren blasting alarm system. My first thought was how did they know a man was not there. Just a senseless crime.

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    I agree with you RayStar. In addition to a blaring siren, I don't think having a gun (legally) in the home is a bad idea either. A lot of women are getting their concealed weapons permits and learning to shoot these days.

    I feel so terrible for this family. I pray that these guys are all put away for the maximum amount of time (I wish it could be forever).

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    Quote Originally Posted by RayStar View Post
    This is why women living in isolated areas need a dog or siren blasting alarm system. My first thought was how did they know a man was not there. Just a senseless crime.
    They may not have cared if a man were there. There were 4 of them (I think) vs. 1 man, if one were present.

    What a horrible thing for that little girl to have to deal with now, and with no mom to help her. I doubt they care, though.

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    I sure hope NH has life without parole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kgeaux View Post
    Looking at the picture of the house, it doesn't appear to be the home of a very wealthy person---why would they target a middle-income family to rob? Did they know she was a nurse and thought maybe she'd have meds. around the home? Why would it have to be a "given" that murder was part of the robbery plan if they didn't know her? And how in the heck can young men chop up a woman and an 11 year old little girl?

    I am just so sick of hearing about crimes like this. Just had to let off a little steam.
    From various articles I've read over the past few days, I'm getting the impression that this was more about killing and mayhem than robbery. It seems one of the dad's is the one who is pushing the robbery idea and that the murder wasn't planned.

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    Also the fact that mom, IIRC, was hacked to death in bed, kinda shows priority right there. They killed her right off while she was sleeping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuziQ View Post
    Also the fact that mom, IIRC, was hacked to death in bed, kinda shows priority right there. They killed her right off while she was sleeping.
    It's hard to read about this crime without getting physically sick, knowing that there are people like this out here.

    We've been mulling over getting an alarm on the house. This crime is reason enough not to put it off any longer.


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    Sounds like a random "thrill kill."

    Of course, this crime is going to focus the microscope on pop culture even further. The media is always going to look for some external influence to scapegoat. Apparently, one of the killers updated his status to mention he had fun (hanging out with one of the other killers) and watching Dexter.

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    WTH is wrong with people? These young men need to be locked up in prison for the remainder of their lives.
    They just viciously stabbed to death a mother in front of her 11 year old daughter, who they stabbed as well and the 11 year old underwent surgery and survived.
    Not only does the poor child have to deal with the loss of her mother, and her own wounds, how is she ever supposed to heal psychologically from this???
    They just ruined so many lives, it's disgusting, i really don't understand some of these younger generations at all.

    I agree absynthminded, it does sound like a thrill kill. Those men probably knew exactly how many people lived in that house. If their intentions were to just rob the house, there would be no need for them to bring knives and a machete. 4 men could easily control a woman and an 11 year old girl. It's disgusting.. robbery was probably an afterthought/excuse.
    They all need 1st degree murder charges!!
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    http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news...63/detail.html

    "BOSTON -- The father of a girl who dated one of the four teens accused in a gruesome attack that claimed the life of a New Hampshire woman says he saw violent tendencies in the teen."

    "Police said the four teenagers, led by Spader and Gribble, chose the Cates' Trow Road home because of its secluded location. Officials said that their goal was to rob the home with the intention of killing everyone inside."
    "The cure for crime is not the electric chair, but the high chair."

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    http://wbztv.com/local/mother.murder...2.1233100.html

    "James Marks is shocked his son, 18-year-old William Marks, was allegedly involved in a plot to rob a home and kill anyone who got in the way.."

    http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/apps/...79998/-1/YOUTH

    Two of them face first-degree murder, attempted murder and conspiracy to murder. The other two face burglary, conspiracy to burglary, and robbery.

    "Regarding Marks and Glover, he said, “Those two defendants were aware, going into the home, that if there was someone in the home they were going to have to kill them.”

    Delker declined to comment on whether the house was locked or how the teens got inside.

    Cates' husband, David Cates, 44, was out of town on a business trip at the time, prosecutors have said."

    How can anyone even think like that??!! They decide to kill everyone inside??!
    "The cure for crime is not the electric chair, but the high chair."

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    I hope the woman went directly from being asleep to being unconscious during the attack, rather than experiencing terror and fear for her daughter.

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