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    Question What do you think.....

    would have happened if det.Arndt wouldn't have asked JR to search the house again?

    It's just such an unbelievable coincidence that JR found the body.There was a note,a supposed kidnapping,they were waiting for the call and just out of the blue JR decides to search the basemenet AGAIN (why not other places,he's been there before??)and BOOM he finds the kidnapped child garroted,assaulted and DEAD.

    Do you think they would have waited for LE to search the house again?
    Did he want to be the one to "find" her and would have thought of another excuse to go down there?
    Would he have manipulated someone else to go search the wine cellar?Kinda hard since FW was done there and he could have said "I've been there and I saw nothing".


    IMO he was damn lucky that Arndt asked him to search the house again.I think he must have been desperate,LE was down there and didn't find the body,FW even opened the cellar door and didn't see the body.



    I think he menitoned the window to FW only as an excuse as to why the basement needs to be looked at more closely.
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    What do I think? I think Mommy was awakened just as she was drifting off into REM sleep. Awakened by JonBenet coming to her after wetting her bed (yet again). Patsy, half-crazed and out of her mind, still half asleep, got angry and pushed her, slamming her head against the tub or sink, then she panicked, that JB would "tell" on her so she went into a deranged "cover-up" mode that got way too far out of control....

    I've posted about this case on another site till blue in face....The perp's DEAD. I'll try to make a point of coming back here soon...not that it matters.....

    Bottom line is Patsy wrote the randsom note. There is no if, ands, or buts about that FACT. Therefore Patsy is Guilty. Case Closed. I really do enjoy chatting about this, so I will come back.
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    I think a better question would be:

    What if LE had done their job and searched the house and found JBR?

    Maybe they don't try and protect their reputations by forcing the square peg in the round hole.

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    About FW, JR really did act surpised to find out FW was down there....And we have to remember also he knew where the body was cause he told JAR,MR,and MR's boyfriend that he found her at a 11....But I think he knew in the end he had to discover the body cause he already told his kids he found her....But for Det.Arndt to ask them to search is beyond me....
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    [QUOTE=Roy23;4291201]I think a better question would be:

    What if LE had done their job and searched the house and found JBR?



    Indeed. The kidnapping scenario would have been proven immediately to be nothing more than staging. Then Patsy and John, like most parents whose children are found dead in their homes, would have been taken in for separate questioning and not a single thing would have been removed from the house - even P's and J's clothing would have been taken into evidence. And I suspect we wouldn't be having this conversation now.

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    [quote=Sophie;4291356]
    Quote Originally Posted by Roy23 View Post
    I think a better question would be:

    What if LE had done their job and searched the house and found JBR?



    Indeed. The kidnapping scenario would have been proven immediately to be nothing more than staging. Then Patsy and John, like most parents whose children are found dead in their homes, would have been taken in for separate questioning and not a single thing would have been removed from the house - even P's and J's clothing would have been taken into evidence. And I suspect we wouldn't be having this conversation now.
    I agree with you..no doubt...

    But then again..even with what has happened in reality...things did seem fishy..and despite that nothing was done about it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy23 View Post
    I think a better question would be:

    What if LE had done their job and searched the house and found JBR?
    I think that's what madeleine was asking.

    Maybe they don't try and protect their reputations by forcing the square peg in the round hole.
    You really think that's what happened? Because obviously I don't. Sophie's right: the Rs should THANK the police for giving them so many wildcard explanations for so many things.
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    If LE had done their jobs and secured the crime scene,then yeah no one would have been able to say today,well the intruder DID leave evidence but it wasn't collected.


    IMO

    I think it would have been even more clearer that RDI.


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    Quote Originally Posted by madeleine View Post
    would have happened if det.Arndt wouldn't have asked JR to search the house again?

    It's just such an unbelievable coincidence that JR found the body.There was a note,a supposed kidnapping,they were waiting for the call and just out of the blue JR decides to search the basement AGAIN (why not other places,he's been there before??)and BOOM he finds the kidnapped child garroted,assaulted and DEAD.

    Do you think they would have waited for LE to search the house again?
    Did he want to be the one to "find" her and would have thought of another excuse to go down there?
    Would he have manipulated someone else to go search the wine cellar?Kinda hard since FW was done there and he could have said "I've been there and I saw nothing".


    IMO he was damn lucky that Arndt asked him to search the house again.I think he must have been desperate,LE was down there and didn't find the body,FW even opened the cellar door and didn't see the body.



    I think he menitoned the window to FW only as an excuse as to why the basement needs to be looked at more closely.
    I'm of the mind that JR saw an opportunity and took it. I think that the initial idea was for the police to find her body, and when it looked like they wouldn't, he got damn lucky that the opportunity presented itself.
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    I think JR was hoping LE would find the body. LE finding her would distance the parents from the crime a little more. It is always suspicious when a parent finds the body of their "missing" child.
    But when French failed to even open the door to the wineceller, and Arndt was occupied with supervising an increasingly out-of-control crime scene- JR realized they might never find the body. And if they didn't, everyone would eventually leave. And they had no idea just when that would happen. Let's be frank here- and graphic as well. Finding JB before she began to decompose visibly was of extreme importance. "Finding" the corpse of a child you had killed is even more horrible when that child is in a more advanced state of decomposition. I doubt they could have dealt with that.
    I think JR jumped at the chance to "find" his missing daughter, despite that fact that LE would view it suspiciously. He just couldn't risk waiting.
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    [quote=redeemed;4291487]
    Quote Originally Posted by Sophie View Post

    I agree with you..no doubt...

    But then again..even with what has happened in reality...things did seem fishy..and despite that nothing was done about it...
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    fishy indeed,right from the start,LE was told to 'treat them as victims,not as suspects'. (who'd said anything about suspects at that point??? they'd supposedly just found the note!)
    something to ponder:

    When the corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and the mortal have put on immortality, then shall we be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

    O death, where [is] thy sting? O grave, where [is] thy victory?

    The sting of death [is] sin; and the strength of sin [is] the law.
    But thanks [be] to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeDee249 View Post
    I think JR was hoping LE would find the body. LE finding her would distance the parents from the crime a little more. It is always suspicious when a parent finds the body of their "missing" child.
    But when French failed to even open the door to the wineceller, and Arndt was occupied with supervising an increasingly out-of-control crime scene- JR realized they might never find the body. And if they didn't, everyone would eventually leave. And they had no idea just when that would happen. Let's be frank here- and graphic as well. Finding JB before she began to decompose visibly was of extreme importance. "Finding" the corpse of a child you had killed is even more horrible when that child is in a more advanced state of decomposition. I doubt they could have dealt with that.
    I think JR jumped at the chance to "find" his missing daughter, despite that fact that LE would view it suspiciously. He just couldn't risk waiting.
    yes,and his older kids were on the way,time was a wastin'.
    something to ponder:

    When the corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and the mortal have put on immortality, then shall we be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

    O death, where [is] thy sting? O grave, where [is] thy victory?

    The sting of death [is] sin; and the strength of sin [is] the law.
    But thanks [be] to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
    1 Corinthians 15:54-57

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravyn View Post
    About FW, JR really did act surpised to find out FW was down there....And we have to remember also he knew where the body was cause he told JAR,MR,and MR's boyfriend that he found her at a 11....But I think he knew in the end he had to discover the body cause he already told his kids he found her....But for Det.Arndt to ask them to search is beyond me....
    his older kids arrived after he'd 'found' her,but they were already on the way.imo he was planning on finding her at that point anyway,he just needed a good excuse to do so.and he needed his older kids there to attest to what a good father he was and that he couldn't have possibly been involved in her death.
    something to ponder:

    When the corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and the mortal have put on immortality, then shall we be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

    O death, where [is] thy sting? O grave, where [is] thy victory?

    The sting of death [is] sin; and the strength of sin [is] the law.
    But thanks [be] to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
    1 Corinthians 15:54-57

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    That always helps when you have someone saying how great you are as a parent and that you are loving and caring but deep down your a wolf in sheep's clothing
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    I always thought that maybe LE did focus on them from the very first second.....but after reading DOI I changed my mind.....the RASMEY'S ACTED like suspects from second one,no wonder LE had suspicions....they were defensive before even the body was found!!!

    bla bla bla,LE suspected us from the beginning...just not true,it's only a lame excuse for their own behaviour.
    The suspicion started when both began to give conflicting statements.(see ST's book,first chapters)
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