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    Wowza! Finally finished all 3 deps. Cindy's was just so painfully looooong. Why isn't her lawyer telling her to answer yes or no, just yes or no. My lordy there is no reason for her to go on and on and on when asked simple yes/no questions. All these words are going to come back to haunt her.

    By now someone must have mentioned to her that when one gives too much information they are usually not telling the truth. So don't blather on!

    maybe they really are trying to get everything they have said thrown out cause it is all so confusing and confilcting, and then they won't have to testify against their daughter.

    But after reading all 3 depos, the main story of what happened (well of what casey told them happened) hasn't completely changed. (except when they went on to the blanchard park story) Casey had them all seriously snowed!
    Not just about what happened to caylee, but about her whole day to day existence and what she was doing with her time. They didn't even know Tony existed, they really knew nothing of her true self.


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    Quote Originally Posted by celticthyme View Post
    Just my Opinion,
    Given what we know of Casey at this point, that rarely is anything she does or real or truthful. She's a professional grifter and scammer
    I have always just assumed that Casey had a "fake ID badge", that she put together herself. Unless you actually worked worked at Universal Studios, how would anyone know if it is an official badge or not. And I can only imagine that even within Universal itself, there are different kinds of badges. Cindy may or may not have known if it was real.

    ETA: no one has seen an image of that lanyard as far as I know.
    Though I'm sure LE knows what official Universal ID Badges look like.
    I'm just reading about the lanyard now. The name on it is "Chris." Cindy said she didn't know Chris. I would imagine that the badge would contain more than just a person's first name and photo id. If it is used for entrance to anyplace it would be reasonable to think it probably has a "bar code" to keep track of that person's whereabouts. I hope SA has tracked "Chris" down . . . And if the whole thing is fake I'm sure they've substantiated that as well. In either case I think the lanyard discovery will prove to be a boon for SA. I think Exhibits 17 and 18 will be photos of the lanyard but don't want to go look and lose my place.
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    I just looked at the Exhibits. There's no picture of the lanyard. There's a picture of what looks like the collapsible bin from the trunk with a rather large sticker with "Chris" printed on it. It's a Universal Orlando sticker. It looks like it may be a name tag sticker you would wear such as a "Hello My Name is" sticker.


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    I think I read most of the posts here, but I can't be sure. I hope this isn't a repeat!

    I'm on PDF pages 343-348. IMHO, Cindy has officially put Casey under the bus.

    Cindy had stated she wasn't reading the discovery and I think she really should have. We all know that Caylee's body had been placed in a cylindrical laundry bag after being double-sealed in plastic bags, and we have the evidence picture to prove it.

    Well, Linda Drane Burdick shows her the picture of the garage and asks her what is kept in the plastic bags up on the shelves. Unlike George, Cindy knows exactly what's where. She tells Linda that around Caylee's second birthday she bought a square laundry hamper to store Caylee's stuffed animals.

    After some discussion, she says she bought a round one to keep balls in (the kind kids jump in). They had bought a "hippopotamus" from the neighbors with the balls. When they took the hippo off the porch, Cindy stored the round hamper in a plastic bag.

    She points out that LE must have taken the round one because the black plastic bag it had been stored it was torn. She says they must have taken it Dec. 11, or she would have noticed the bag was torn and would have fixed the situation. LE wouldn't have torn the bag to get to its contents, that's more of a desperate Casey thing.

    She also points out that the square one was missing. (We know LE took it Dec. 11)

    Well, we know LE took the square one and matched it to the cylindrical one Caylee was dumped in... both same maker, same brand. Cindy ID'd them both

    BOMBSHELL!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CarolinaMoon View Post
    I think I read most of the posts here, but I can't be sure. I hope this isn't a repeat!

    I'm on PDF pages 343-348. IMHO, Cindy has officially put Casey under the bus.

    Cindy had stated she wasn't reading the discovery and I think she really should have. We all know that Caylee's body had been placed in a cylindrical laundry bag after being double-sealed in plastic bags, and we have the evidence picture to prove it.

    Well, Linda Drane Burdick shows her the picture of the garage and asks her what is kept in the plastic bags up on the shelves. Unlike George, Cindy knows exactly what's where. She tells Linda that around Caylee's second birthday she bought a square laundry hamper to store Caylee's stuffed animals.

    After some discussion, she says she bought a round one to keep balls in (the kind kids jump in). They had bought a "hippopotamus" from the neighbors with the balls. When they took the hippo off the porch, Cindy stored the round hamper in a plastic bag.

    She points out that LE must have taken the round one because the black plastic bag it had been stored it was torn. She says they must have taken it Dec. 11, or she would have noticed the bag was torn and would have fixed the situation. LE wouldn't have torn the bag to get to its contents, that's more of a desperate Casey thing.

    She also points out that the square one was missing. (We know LE took it Dec. 11)

    Well, we know LE took the square one and matched it to the cylindrical one Caylee was dumped in... both same maker, same brand. Cindy ID'd them both

    BOMBSHELL!
    True...and if LE took the cylindrical bag with the balls stored in it...was it LE that walked back and dumped the balls in the shed? haha!! NOT!! So if the balls were stored in this bag...Casey must have dumped the balls in the shed when she took the bag, or Cindy found them in the garage sans the bag and put them in the shed. Either way ya slice it up, Cindy knew the bag was gone when she either discovered the balls in the shed, or moved them there herself..


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    Quote Originally Posted by luvthesleuths View Post
    Wowza! Finally finished all 3 deps. Cindy's was just so painfully looooong. Why isn't her lawyer telling her to answer yes or no, just yes or no. My lordy there is no reason for her to go on and on and on when asked simple yes/no questions. All these words are going to come back to haunt her.

    By now someone must have mentioned to her that when one gives too much information they are usually not telling the truth. So don't blather on!

    maybe they really are trying to get everything they have said thrown out cause it is all so confusing and confilcting, and then they won't have to testify against their daughter.

    But after reading all 3 depos, the main story of what happened (well of what casey told them happened) hasn't completely changed. (except when they went on to the blanchard park story) Casey had them all seriously snowed!
    Not just about what happened to caylee, but about her whole day to day existence and what she was doing with her time. They didn't even know Tony existed, they really knew nothing of her true self
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    Only because they ignored the obvious and many years worth of signs. For Cindy's sake.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lizzysf View Post
    True...and if LE took the cylindrical bag with the balls stored in it...was it LE that walked back and dumped the balls in the shed? haha!! NOT!! So if the balls were stored in this bag...Casey must have dumped the balls in the shed when she took the bag, or Cindy found them in the garage sans the bag and put them in the shed. Either way ya slice it up, Cindy knew the bag was gone when she either discovered the balls in the shed, or moved them there herself..
    Or Cindy made no mistake in her depo.. once again here we are with Cindy offering too much informatation about something she claims to have no knowledge of.

    Maybe Cindy emptied the balls herself?


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    Quote Originally Posted by CarolinaMoon View Post
    I think I read most of the posts here, but I can't be sure. I hope this isn't a repeat!

    I'm on PDF pages 343-348. IMHO, Cindy has officially put Casey under the bus.

    Cindy had stated she wasn't reading the discovery and I think she really should have. We all know that Caylee's body had been placed in a cylindrical laundry bag after being double-sealed in plastic bags, and we have the evidence picture to prove it.

    Well, Linda Drane Burdick shows her the picture of the garage and asks her what is kept in the plastic bags up on the shelves. Unlike George, Cindy knows exactly what's where. She tells Linda that around Caylee's second birthday she bought a square laundry hamper to store Caylee's stuffed animals.

    After some discussion, she says she bought a round one to keep balls in (the kind kids jump in). They had bought a "hippopotamus" from the neighbors with the balls. When they took the hippo off the porch, Cindy stored the round hamper in a plastic bag.

    She points out that LE must have taken the round one because the black plastic bag it had been stored it was torn. She says they must have taken it Dec. 11, or she would have noticed the bag was torn and would have fixed the situation. LE wouldn't have torn the bag to get to its contents, that's more of a desperate Casey thing.

    She also points out that the square one was missing. (We know LE took it Dec. 11)

    Well, we know LE took the square one and matched it to the cylindrical one Caylee was dumped in... both same maker, same brand. Cindy ID'd them both

    BOMBSHELL!
    Great post!! I hadn't noticed any of this!! You r0ck!
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    As far as CA goes.....

    I think that her history of "word salad" will bring her "just desserts".


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    Here is my thoughts on the depositions of all 3 of the A's this was a way for the SA to lock them into certain statements....But make no mistake when the trial happens and they are each on the stand the SA will not only have the comments that were made during this deposition but they will bring out all of the interview clips as well as the Morgan & Morgan deposition and at that point they will drop the hammer on them for all of the conflicting statements, this is the point where I think we will see some perjury charges come into play....With all of the lies that have been told there is no way the A's will be able to keep it all straight and it will be one heck of several days that they will spend on the witness stand...I would give anything to be in the courtroom during the days the A's are forced to testify against KC...

    And if we all thought that these depositions were crap, just wait until JB gets them on the stand to do his depositions, at that point the SA will more than likely get a whole lot more ammunition to load for the cross examination of this family...

    There will certainly be fireworks when this goes to trial and I do not think for a moment that the SA will be as nice to this family when they are on the stand during the trial...

    Does anyone know if the items that are currently under seal by the courts will be shown to the general public during the trial, or do they make the poll camera point away from the exhibits when they are shown to the jury?
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    I wanted the SA to ask during the depositions why Jeffrey Michael Hopkins or Juliette Lewis haven't been located. Instead of asking if Mr. Casey had found the nanny, has he looked for Hopkins or Juliette Lewis? Since they aren't accused of kidnapping like the nanny is, why wouldn't they come forward, or someone that knows them. If anyone believes KC's story, wouldn't the logical investigator search for Jeff Hopkins since he introduced KC to the nanny. Surely he would have a number to contact her and maybe he didn't lose his phone (sarcasm intended)


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    Quote Originally Posted by jandkmom View Post
    I wanted the SA to ask during the depositions why Jeffrey Michael Hopkins or Juliette Lewis haven't been located. Instead of asking if Mr. Casey had found the nanny, has he looked for Hopkins or Juliette Lewis? Since they aren't accused of kidnapping like the nanny is, why wouldn't they come forward, or someone that knows them. If anyone believes KC's story, wouldn't the logical investigator search for Jeff Hopkins since he introduced KC to the nanny. Surely he would have a number to contact her and maybe he didn't lose his phone (sarcasm intended)
    I am sure that all of these questions will be asked during the trial, the SA wants to make sure to get certain questions answered and on the record for the depositions, but they also want to hold some of there thoughts close to the vest, so that they can catch the defense of guard...I certainly think the SA is so on top of this case, it will blow our minds when it gets to trial, and all of the A's will be made to look like fools when that happens.
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    Talking

    i would like to see them all squirm on the witness stand

    but it aint gonna happen imo


    this will never get to trial..

    what we have seen for evidence, is just the beginning

    it all boils down to this

    when you have no defense, welllll then you have no defense

    life in prison... they will be begging for it with the state

    adios KC


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    Quote Originally Posted by jandkmom View Post
    I wanted the SA to ask during the depositions why Jeffrey Michael Hopkins or Juliette Lewis haven't been located. Instead of asking if Mr. Casey had found the nanny, has he looked for Hopkins or Juliette Lewis? Since they aren't accused of kidnapping like the nanny is, why wouldn't they come forward, or someone that knows them. If anyone believes KC's story, wouldn't the logical investigator search for Jeff Hopkins since he introduced KC to the nanny. Surely he would have a number to contact her and maybe he didn't lose his phone (sarcasm intended)
    They touched on it briefly with LA, but when they asked him about Juliet Lewis, JB lauged and said "you mean the actress?"....entirely inappropriate, of course, because it's his stupid client that pulled the name out of her hat, so laugh at her, Bozo....
    Anyway, I think with that silly statement, JB pretty much answered LA's question for him-There is no Juliet and using that name is ridiculous.


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    I am halfway though reading all the posts on this thread, so please excuse me if this has already been discussed..

    In Cindy's depo, part 2, page 371- they are talking about the mass text via cellphone and my-space that Casey sent out to all her contacts on the morning of July 16 2008.

    Cindy says that it was her idea to alert as many people as she could.

    SA asks: When you came up with that idea, did Casey object?

    Cindy says: No, Absolutely not!

    SA asks: She wasn't afraid that that would somehow put anybody in danger?

    Cindy says: NO

    Ok, so I take this to mean that any defence that Casey may try to make saying she couldn't tell anyone that Casey was missing was because it would put her in danger - was just obliterated by Cindy!!


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