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    Quote Originally Posted by kbl8201 View Post
    i swear i could post something about how nice the weather here is today (60, sunny) and i'd get 30 negative posts about how its nearly wintertime.

    can we just agree that jaycee taught her girls the best she could and did a fantastic job at it?
    Just out of curiosity, why'd you quote me? I agree that she did the best she could. The fact that she was able to teach them anything at all is miraculous. I wasn't being negative. She could have done it, maybe not fully to grade level, but at least pretty darn close.
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    Quote Originally Posted by not_my_kids View Post
    Just out of curiosity, why'd you quote me? I agree that she did the best she could. The fact that she was able to teach them anything at all is miraculous. I wasn't being negative. She could have done it, maybe not fully to grade level, but at least pretty darn close.
    i should have done a quick reply sorry. that wasnt directed at you. directed at how everything in this case that seems to be the least bit positive is being ripped apart.
    we're nitpicking. everythng.
    jaycee did what she could with what she knew and what meager resources they were allowed. i dont think any of us in the same situation could have done better


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    Quote Originally Posted by kbl8201 View Post
    i should have done a quick reply sorry. that wasnt directed at you. directed at how everything in this case that seems to be the least bit positive is being ripped apart.
    we're nitpicking. everythng.
    jaycee did what she could with what she knew and what meager resources they were allowed. i dont think any of us in the same situation could have done better
    And embellishing anything is not exactly great either.
    Huge difference between support and embellishing.
    YES SHE DID AN AMAZING JOB. NOP not realistic that they can be up to grade level.
    And again you should all believe whatever you want. I don't and wont believe it.
    she is still a hero to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by songline View Post
    And embellishing anything is not exactly great either.
    Huge difference between support and embellishing.
    YES SHE DID AN AMAZING JOB.
    NOP not realistic that they can be up to grade level.
    possilbe they are up to jaycee's grade level,which means the 11 year old would be up to grade level.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephens View Post
    I, too, have wondered how the hell Dugard was able to teach her daughters any math or science (assuming the girls are both up to grade level in all subjects). Trigonometry, calculus, or geometry? How? She only had a 5th grade education and math is not one of those subjects you simply "get" without rigorous instruction, whether by teacher or book. I believe the last thing Garrido wanted was for Dugard to be educated, to help ensure her enslavement (Even if you want to believe otherwise, the man is a dim bulb and wouldn't know what books to get her). So, how could she know what to teach? Maybe she put her foot down when it came to her daughters' education and he allowed her web access to basic educational sources? I'm guessing we won't find out for a while, if ever.

    Either way, I sure hope that they get a lot of (hopefully, free) help with their education.
    I wonder if Nancy Garrido could have had a hand in helping to educate all three of these girls?
    She was for a time in the nursing profession, wasn't she?
    Just a thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smart blonde View Post
    I wonder if Nancy Garrido could have had a hand in helping to educate all three of these girls?
    She was for a time in the nursing profession, wasn't she?
    Just a thought.
    possible.
    but if the girls were out in the tents most of the time i doubt she did much.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kbl8201 View Post
    possilbe they are up to jaycee's grade level,which means the 11 year old would be up to grade level.
    That one is a possibility.
    Also, we don't know how they measured them. Was it a standardized test, was it part of the initial psych eval that I'm sure all three of them had, was it simply that they are reading at appropriate levels and that was morphed into "at grade level" for everything?
    There are so many tests for the same things, one can say you are perfectly average, one can say you are a genius and one can say you are an idiot, all with the same answers to the same questions. It's a bit useless to know the result without knowing the test.
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    Quote Originally Posted by not_my_kids View Post
    That one is a possibility.
    Also, we don't know how they measured them. Was it a standardized test, was it part of the initial psych eval that I'm sure all three of them had, was it simply that they are reading at appropriate levels and that was morphed into "at grade level" for everything?
    There are so many tests for the same things, one can say you are perfectly average, one can say you are a genius and one can say you are an idiot, all with the same answers to the same questions. It's a bit useless to know the result without knowing the test.
    well i think theyll all be finding out how far along they are as they go along.


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    @kbl: My cousin bought the "People" magazine with Dugard on the cover and I could've sworn she told me that the article states that the eldest was not only up to grade level but near that of a high school senior, according to the tests. So, I don't think the two girls are at 5th grade level. I still have my doubts about math and science, but as I said earlier, we'll probably not find out anytime soon how Dugard did it, if she did, on those subjects.


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    I posted this on the other thread, and then deleted it right away because I thought it would be better placed here:

    I just want to get this straight in my mind...

    Prior to the rescue, Jaycee's daughters thought/ were told that Jaycee was their older sister, correct?

    So... did the two young girls think that Nancy Garrido was their mother? Or, did they just think that Nancy was their step-mother?

    (Because, if indeed Phillip Garrido is their biological father, and he is married to Nancy, then legally Nancy is their step-mother... but did they believe she was their bio mom?).
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    I think there is a very strong possibility Nancy, who is somewhat educated herself, may have helped in educating the two younger girls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephens View Post
    @kbl: My cousin bought the "People" magazine with Dugard on the cover and I could've sworn she told me that the article states that the eldest was not only up to grade level but near that of a high school senior, according to the tests. So, I don't think the two girls are at 5th grade level. I still have my doubts about math and science, but as I said earlier, we'll probably not find out anytime soon how Dugard did it, if she did, on those subjects.
    its intresting if it's true.
    and makes jaycee even more amazing


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    Quote Originally Posted by smart blonde View Post
    I think there is a very strong possibility Nancy, who is somewhat educated herself, may have helped in educating the two younger girls.
    i doubt she's that noble


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    Quote Originally Posted by kbl8201 View Post
    i doubt she's that noble
    Oh, believe me, I do not think she is noble. I see her as a monster.

    I was thinking more along the lines of trying to look important in their eyes, in a misguided attempt at trying to fit into the 'role' of a mother, or out of boredom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smart blonde View Post
    Oh, believe me, I do not think she is noble. I see her as a monster.

    I was thinking more along the lines of trying to look important in their eyes, in a misguided attempt at trying to fit into the 'role' of a mother, or out of boredom.
    well im pretty sure patty didnt help educate them.
    nancy, maybe some. but alll materials that would help them learn were on the tents. doubt nancy was out there much


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