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    VA - Couple & two teens found murdered, Farmville, 15 Sept 2009 #3

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    Quote Originally Posted by tapu View Post
    As a mother of boys (and I would call Sam one despite his 20 years), I can imagine him doing almost anything about his bloody clothes other than using a washing machine. I'm sticking with he's wearing them (under the jacket) and smells to high-heaven because of that.

    As for the 3 bodies being upstairs... weird again. Could the girls have slept there, been killed in bed, moved to the floor, and then Debra Kelley either being brought up there dead, or she came to the room and he killed her then. In what they said about the females being killed in bed, was there any room left for maybe Debra not being killed there?
    There's no word on where they were actually killed. We've heard they were asleep at the time and that the bodies were found on the floor.

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    This is from a story dated October 23, last Friday:

    "Sources tell CBS-6 that capital murder charges are expected to be filed in two weeks. A capital murder conviction can potentially lead to a death sentence."

    http://www.wtvr.com/news/wtvr-farmvi...,1981283.story

    I'm guessing that they are waiting for forensic evidence to come back. It sounds like they are playing this one extremely safe.
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    deleted double post.
    Last edited by gxm; 10-26-2009 at 08:00 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tapu View Post
    The longer it goes with no charges against Sam for killing the women, the weirder that seems to me. Could there really be some other scenario being investigated??
    There was a statement that capital murder charges would be announced in about two weeks and this was reported in a story last week. Wait another week or two and see what happens.

    Edited to add: gxm slipped me

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    Debunking the Lost on the Way to the Airport Theory

    Here's the entrance to Poorhouse road from the 460 that Heroine was talking about. He's already on the road to the airport before he gets here. He has to turn off onto what appears to me to be a fairly small side road that clearly isn't the main route 460. Also, if he did make this turn by mistake, he passes several other places where he could have turned around well before the location were he eventually did try to do so. IMO this theory is pretty improbable.
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    "...asleep, or in an otherwise defenseless position..."

    So it's possible the girls slept up there, and that Debra was killed when she came up rather than necessarily that she was asleep too.

    I'm just thinking this because both of these possibilities seem unlikely: 1) that they were all sleeping up there and he just moved them to the floor, and 2) that he moved all 3 bodies upstairs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tapu View Post
    "...asleep, or in an otherwise defenseless position..."

    So it's possible the girls slept up there, and that Debra was killed when she came up rather than necessarily that she was asleep too.

    I'm just thinking this because both of these possibilities seem unlikely: 1) that they were all sleeping up there and he just moved them to the floor, and 2) that he moved all 3 bodies upstairs.
    All we know is that there were no defensive wounds on the women. Your scenario would work if Sam attacked Debra from behind. One hit with the maul and a person would be incapacitated.

    I think it's also possible that he moved Debra after he killed her so that all the bodies were in the most remote area of the house. From photos she does not look like a large woman, so I'm guessing she wouldn't be extremely difficult to move.
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    Hey, did we ever link the "horrorcore.blogspot" on here, where people are going on about horrorcore as domestic terrorism?

    I could try to find it again, if not. It's got some self-proclaimed horrorcories posting on there in the comments about Sam, skr, sick, etc.

    It was linked to that recent article, above, about the murder weapon, body placement.

    Some of these guys are making the claim that it was set up, too. To promote skr, et al.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tapu View Post
    Hey, did we ever link the "horrorcore.blogspot" on here, where people are going on about horrorcore as domestic terrorism?

    I could try to find it again, if not. It's got some self-proclaimed horrorcories posting on there in the comments about Sam, skr, sick, etc.

    It was linked to that recent article, above, about the murder weapon, body placement.

    Some of these guys are making the claim that it was set up, too. To promote skr, et al.
    this site? horror-core.blogspot.com


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    I think I would be able to reconcile Sam's actions a lot better if drugs were involved.

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    yes, AndresEscobar, I have been wondering this myself. Also, would the 3 female victims been drugged too? Makes one wonder if any of them heard of anything before they were killed.

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    I was wondering about sam's drug habit's as well...he didn't seem to have as much of a problem as his sister.I keep wondering about way back how it all started.According to syko mom she was super protective and took a job at the school to be close to him but sarah paints a totally different picture.syko mom smoking bowl after bowl in front of a muted TV,she didn't seem to give a damn about those kids,just didn't want to be bothered...gave them weed,took their food for weed,basically left sam to rot in his room,didn't even care if he showered...I could imagine him staying in there to avoid confrontation,his sister didn't seem tobe too kind to him either...I'm not feeling sorry for him,I'm just trying to understand....maybe the whole involvment with wicked intend and skr was positive at first...it gave him something to live for...i bet he had huge expectations about meeting emma...i can also see him doing the whole rap thing to impress her,to impress his dad...but I think we all agree he sucked bad at it...
    anyways I think when he thought emma was a cheater just like his mom he just freaked,i don't think he 's a psychopath,just majorly disturbed...I also think he called to cops for a half hearted alibi but I really doubt he cared much whether or not he would get caught at that point.I do believe the murders satisfied him which would explain his calm and almost content demeanor when he was taken in by le.I keep thinking of what the original syko sam,david berkowitz said in an interview"the tension,the desire to kill a woman had built up in me to such explosive proportions that when I finally pulled the trigger ,all the pressures,all the tensions,hatred,had just vanished,disappeared.I was literally singing on my way home"

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    Quote Originally Posted by gxm View Post
    This is from a story dated October 23, last Friday:

    "Sources tell CBS-6 that capital murder charges are expected to be filed in two weeks. A capital murder conviction can potentially lead to a death sentence."

    http://www.wtvr.com/news/wtvr-farmvi...,1981283.story

    I'm guessing that they are waiting for forensic evidence to come back. It sounds like they are playing this one extremely safe.
    Yea they probably want to know exactly everything they have before filing the capital charges. The defense will likely have the goal of just trying to save McCroskey from lethal injection, it will be interesting to see what spin they go with to try and convince a jury to spare him death.

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