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    Quote Originally Posted by Emeralgem View Post
    Perhaps, he paid attention to what the LVA revealed and is just telling the truth...JMO
    If thats the case, then why now? He's known the results for several months, what's changed between then and now? Maybe his perception of the families cooperation in Tim's investigation?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Emeralgem View Post
    Perhaps, he paid attention to what the LVA revealed and is just telling the truth...JMO
    If the LVA was that reliable, alot more LE agencies would use it. It has serious flaws. There is no way I would trust that to tell a family their missing child is dead. And IMO anyone who does is irresponsible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KOOL LOOK View Post
    Maybe so, but doesn't do anything for erasing the impact of thoughts and suffering to Haleighs family his statements have caused for now and until that time.
    Seems as though it will be a burden he'll carry, then, because it is how he feels. It's not as though he himself has caused her death just by uttering what he believes may have been her fate.


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    Quote Originally Posted by curvecuti View Post
    If the LVA was that reliable, alot more LE agencies would use it. It has serious flaws. There is no way I would trust that to tell a family their missing child is dead. And IMO anyone who does is irresponsible.
    I think I would give TM a LOT more credit than merely basing his statement on the LVA. He has spent quality time with the core family and has been told things (by Ron?) that he does not want to share IMO and so is sharing his professional opinion.

    While it may seem harsh the odds are against HaLeigh being alive, lets face it and that's precisely what TM is trying to do. The HaLeigh being alive thing can go on for months/years and already tearing the family up, it will destroy them and TM knows intimately the impact.

    He is trying to help the family by breaking this so that they can begin to face the most likely outcome and come to terms with it. Ron is seeking closure and while it is sad he needs to continue on with his life. They all do. They cannot keep this up forever.

    TM has weighed what he knows about dead versus alive and he is trying to do the right thing given the odds. Everyone wants to cling to the hope that HaLeigh will one day return home safe but if the family does not have her then the odds are very very bad.

    Sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind. Sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KOOL LOOK View Post
    Maybe so, but doesn't do anything for erasing the impact of thoughts and suffering to Haleighs family his statements have caused for now and until that time.
    Most of the suffering is caused by Haleigh being gone, though. I'm sure that even if TM had never said anything, many members of the family would torment themselves with all manner of horrible scenarios that might have happened to Haleigh. I don't believe that hearing TM's statement was the first time it occurred to anyone that Haleigh might be dead.


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    Quote Originally Posted by KOOL LOOK View Post

    Then we have his latest statement, "That Haleigh is dead, has been dead since the beginning and that we won't be finding an alive Haleigh". Well, I want to know why he feels this way. What evidence has he seen, received or know about this case for him to draw these conclusions and release them to the media and other outlets.

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    I think a very big part of this is his statement that the family does not cooperate with the searchers. IMO it's very telling, considering that the family is who got Tim involved again.


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    I can't make a lick of sense out of the conflicting statements Tim says lately about will continue to help or won't be returning. Weird. But, IMO, Tim Miller has more than proven himself reliable over the years, and if he says his opinion is Haleigh is gone and the family doesn't cooperate, I will believe it until something more concrete than bloggers comments and spin of his words tells me different. That is what it boils down to for me: I believe in Tim Miller. period. So,I will go with what he says, not matter how odd it seems. JMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by KOOL LOOK View Post
    You are right no one is perfect. I really didn't start this thread to say anything bad about Tim. What has become very apparent, is he is now a part of the case. He's not just a volunteer search organization. At the rate he's going and commenting with statements, doesn't look like that information train is slowing down anytime soon.

    He's now being interviewed regularly, his word is being taken as facts in the case, and really mostly the only news on the case has involved Tim in someway. That's what has caught my eye.

    Then we have his latest statement, "That Haleigh is dead, has been dead since the beginning and that we won't be finding an alive Haleigh". Well, I want to know why he feels this way. What evidence has he seen, received or know about this case for him to draw these conclusions and release them to the media and other outlets.

    It's like he's taken front and center on the case, or is it just me feeling this way?
    i think the caylee case really got to him ... and now this and i think tim is just not used to this and i dont think not sure thought that tim had this much publicity before the caylee case .. so he may be under alot of pressure from alot of people looking to him for answers he doesnt have .. i think he is too deeply involved in both the cases and its hurting him emotionally because he is just trying to be a good person .. i think his gut is telling him she is dead .. he didnt think caylee was alive either .. no one knows anything except the person or persons who had a hand in whatever .. i still wonder if misty/ron were trying to do a casey anthony to get donation money .. i mean that would give misty all the drugs shed want .. not so sure if ron would do it but mabey i dont know them enough to say either way .. it just i guess is a hope that she is alive


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    I have a question about TM. Why would he tell CS and MG that he would never stop searching on 10/17 and then the very next week, he announced he quit? I mean who cares if some people aren't co-operating, he could still conduct searches, I'm sure CS and MG would have been happy to co-operate w/ him. It's strange to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by curvecuti View Post
    I have a question about TM. Why would he tell CS and MG that he would never stop searching on 10/17 and then the very next week, he announced he quit? I mean who cares if some people aren't co-operating, he could still conduct searches, I'm sure CS and MG would have been happy to co-operate w/ him. It's strange to me.
    i think he doesnt know what to do .. i think he wants to search but he knows he may be wasting his time .also i dont think tim gets the full scoop before he says things then he finds them out after the fact and gets upset and angry but i agree either way finding haleigh isnt a waste of time .. i just think he doesnt want to find a dead haleigh .. because now she means something to him


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    Quote Originally Posted by curvecuti View Post
    I have a question about TM. Why would he tell CS and MG that he would never stop searching on 10/17 and then the very next week, he announced he quit? I mean who cares if some people aren't co-operating, he could still conduct searches, I'm sure CS and MG would have been happy to co-operate w/ him. It's strange to me.
    Not at all, not to me. Search where? Everywhere? Commit the resources of TES to search somewhere?

    1. I am confident that if TES gets a reliable lead they will be back and search.

    2. While TM is willing to work with CS and MG they are not able to provide leads since they are/were not directly involved that night.

    3. It is upon Misty, Ron (maybe after the fact) and, TN (maybe after the fact) to cooperate --- thus TM's statement and prime point.

    Where is HaLeigh Misty?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cyberborg View Post
    Not at all, not to me. Search where? Everywhere? Commit the resources of TES to search somewhere?

    1. I am confident that if TES gets a reliable lead they will be back and search.

    2. While TM is willing to work with CS and MG they are not able to provide leads since they are/were not directly involved that night.

    3. It is upon Misty, Ron (maybe after the fact) and, TN (maybe after the fact) to cooperate --- thus TM's statement and prime point.

    Where is HaLeigh Misty?
    I understand that, so why tell CS and MG you would search? He hasn't had any new contact w/ Misty and RC, so it's not like something new happened. Why does he need a lead? He didn't have one wen he first came there and RC begged him not to leave, He said they were coming back when the underbrush died back, why could he not still do that? Maybe he could search where ever it is everyone wants RC to search.

    If I was going to search for Haleigh, then that is what I would do, not say well some people aren't co-operating so I'm gonna throw a hissy and not come back. She is an innocent little girl! She needs someone the stand up for her. If TM doesn't want to, fine, quit talking about it, move on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by curvecuti View Post
    I understand that, so why tell CS and MG you would search? He hasn't had any new contact w/ Misty and RC, so it's not like something new happened. Why does he need a lead? He didn't have one wen he first came there and RC begged him not to leave, He said they were coming back when the underbrush died back, why could he not still do that? Maybe he could search where ever it is everyone wants RC to search.

    If I was going to search for Haleigh, then that is what I would do, not say well some people aren't co-operating so I'm gonna throw a hissy and not come back. She is an innocent little girl! She needs someone the stand up for her. If TM doesn't want to, fine, quit talking about it, move on.
    So .... where are you going to search if I offer you TES resources?

    TM is stating he is willing to search however he does need a lead, something to go on -- like you, he needs to know where to focus his search. You cannot just search blindly for searching sake!!!

    There is a method to his madness to force the situ and breakout a lead.

    The core family just need to cooperate and tell what they know and stop the distraction.

    It is like talking to a kid, tell the truth and the circus will stop and you will get closure BUT if you continue to be stubborn then be it upon your own head. Get on with it.

    It is as plain and simple as that. TM is not going to waste his time or resources if the core family will not cooperate but is clearly saying he is willing to search.

    TM is making an offer to both sides of the family but it is contingent upon cooperation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cyberborg View Post
    So .... where are you going to search if I offer you TES resources?

    TM is stating he is willing to search however he does need a lead, something to go on -- like you, he needs to know where to focus his search. You cannot just search blindly for searching sake!!!

    There is a method to his madness to force the situ and breakout a lead.

    The core family just need to cooperate and tell what they know and stop the distraction.

    It is like talking to a kid, tell the truth and the circus will stop and you will get closure BUT if you continue to be stubborn then be it upon your own head. Get on with it.

    It is as plain and simple as that. TM is not going to waste his time or resources if the core family will not cooperate but is clearly saying he is willing to search.

    TM is making an offer to both sides of the family but it is contingent upon cooperation.
    Well, I would search the woods that people think RC should search. I would search around PDM, alot of people think that is viable. I would hope TM doesn't need people to tell him where to search. If he did he would never find anyone. They know the last place she was, take it from there. Search the places you were gonna search when the underbrush died back. Do a grid search of so many miles from the location she disappeared.

    I'm sure CS or MG could give some places they would like searched. Maybe he could search the area of the faked search, there may something of interest there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by curvecuti View Post
    Well, I would search the woods that people think RC should search. I would search around PDM, alot of people think that is viable. I would hope TM doesn't need people to tell him where to search. If he did he would never find anyone. They know the last place she was, take it from there. Search the places you were gonna search when the underbrush died back. Do a grid search of so many miles from the location she disappeared.

    I'm sure CS or MG could give some places they would like searched. Maybe he could search the area of the faked search, there may something of interest there.
    The point is, TM has principles and as he clearly stated with the Anthony's -- one of his fundamental principles is that he requires family cooperation and support.

    Now we can all argue that he has the cooperation and support of CS and MG but they are not the primary caregivers of HaLeigh at that time, the core family such as Ron, Misty and, TN.

    I must admit that I would take the same position, if the core family was not cooperating or supporting me -- I would offer to search but would make it contingent on that cooperation and valid information. If not, I would make the same statement as TM did and leave.

    It is clear that if the core family are NOT cooperating and supporting the search, only folks like CS and MG then all suspicion falls 100% on the core family that implicates them.

    What does Ron, Misty and, TN have to hide and to gain by not cooperating and supporting the search?
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