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Originally Posted by Padua on the other threadOriginally Posted by danni
HAHA I wouldn't doubt it. They cut her fingernails for her so she couldn't "cut herself" in a (sorry azz) attempt to commit suicide!
WOW I don't even know what to say about that photo!
She wasn't trying to commit suicide, she was self-harming. She has a history of it. But that's just my opinion.
Really:waitasec:, because I remember reading from someone (jodibug) that was in court today and watched it live and in flesh that her attorney, Kurt Valentine, said during court she had tried to commit suicide since her time in Prenger, by cutting herself with her fingernails.
You're both right!
They cut her fingernails because she was trying to self-harm. But she also attempted suicide in Sept 2007.
editted by me....
Yes, Valentine said she was trying to commit suicide by cutting herself with her fingernails, but that was a ludicrous statement. duhhhhh.
Wow, the one day this week I was away from a computer ALL DAY at work... :banghead:
Just got caught up and was reading so fast I wasn't taking the time to click all the Thanks'es I should have--so to all posters, thank you, and to Steph and Jodibug and W8nc, Extra Special Super Thanks for your updates. (W8nc, did they have the proceedings closed-captioned? I was hoping you'd make it, and that they did.)
Off to see what docs we can see. Anyone else struck by the difference between the AB she portrayed in the photos we've seen, and the no-makeup, no-shocking-props mug shot?
Not closed captioned, no, but we were in a small room and they turned up the volume to MAX, so I heard most of it. Thanks for asking, ynotdivein, I appreciate your concern. :hug: I sure hope my hearing problems didn't drive everyone else nuts.
I tell ya, I wouldn't have recognized AB this morning,....except she was the one in an orange jumpsuit and shackles. Without the makeup, she looks about 12. She sat very still, made no sound, looked at the table most of the time, or at the judge. They tried several times to zoom in on her face, but part of the time, Valentine was leaning forward, blocking the shot, and the rest of the time, her hair was hanging in her face so you couldn't see anything but nose & chin. We only saw her eyes for a little bit at the beginning.
She's good at hiding her real self, even from her friends.
Snip from article and WTH??:
"That's as much as Richardson would say about the facts of the case. At one point in juvenile court hearing, a highway patrol investigator testified that Alyssa had dug two holes in the woods, five days before Elizabeth Olten disappeared.
Richardson said that he cannot tell us if Oltens body was found in only one of those holes."
http://www.connectmidmissouri.com/news/story.aspx?id=379212
For some reason this reminds me of the Mary Bell case.
Oooooooh noooooooooooooo. :sick: Let's hope this was just a response to a question from a reporter with an active imagination, and that he really just can't tell us that it's false.
Snip from article and WTH??:
"That's as much as Richardson would say about the facts of the case. At one point in juvenile court hearing, a highway patrol investigator testified that Alyssa had dug two holes in the woods, five days before Elizabeth Olten disappeared.
Richardson said that he cannot tell us if Oltens body was found in only one of those holes."
http://www.connectmidmissouri.com/news/story.aspx?id=379212