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    NC - Shaniya Davis, 5, Fayetteville, 10 Nov 2009 - Allegedly sold by mother #20

    Please continue here.

    Prayers for Shaniya and all who love her.

    http://i560.photobucket.com/albums/s...lowershat2.jpg

    Shaniya's Obituary: http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/fay...&pid=136204823


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    MESSAGE FROM TRICIA:

    Quote Originally Posted by Tricia View Post
    Hi Everyone,

    First, thank you for posting and not attacking. If you ever go out on the Internet you will see how rare it is to actually try and have a discussion without name calling. Thank you all for keeping the standards high at WS.

    I have had several complaints in general about this thread. Rather than go through and try to find exact examples I would like to take moment to remind you all of a few things.

    Shaniya's father is a victim here. I hope that those of you who are judging him harshly will not use every post you put up as a chance to bash him for his decision. Your opinion is welcome but I don't want to see this discussion turn into bashing of a parent who is not being charged with any crime. The punishment he will receive will be the hell he will put himself in for his decision.

    When threads on websleuthes turn into nothing but bashing it really can get old fast.

    We welcome your opinion as long as it stays with in our Terms of Service.


    This is one of the most emotionally disturbing cases many of us have ever seen. Lashing out feels like the only option sometimes. I understand this. I lash out myself. I only ask that you try to keep the discussion moving and on topic and not bogged down.

    I appreciate you all so much and I am thankful you are posting on Websleuths.

    Tricia
    Last edited by Salem; 11-21-2009 at 12:34 PM. Reason: add info

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    I'm bringing this over from Thread 19 because it is an important reminder that we need to be using INITIALS for folks that have not been arrested/named as suspects, as well as a reminder of the rules at the geneology site.

    Quote Originally Posted by ElizaAvalon View Post
    Before this thread goes poof:

    Genealogists posting family histories with the real names of living people is a genealogy research faux pas. You are supposed to put "living" where the first name goes if you publish publicly on the internet.

    Brad's genealogy is on the Internet with real names.
    Salem

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    From the last page on thread 19 this blew me away: HOW DID BL KNOW THIS?????
    He did not say that before....

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    ORIGINALY Bobbisangel

    I heard on the early morning news today that Lockhart is saying now that Shaniya's mother traded her to cover a drug debt. She must have owed Mario a large amount of money for drugs and they decided that Shaniya would be an acceptable trade off. I hope they both get the needle. It took Lockhart long enough to admit that the mother was into drugs.
    Last edited by songline; 11-21-2009 at 12:36 PM.
    Women are Angels.
    And when someone breaks our wings,
    we simply continue to fly... on a broomstick.

    We're flexible like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by songline View Post
    From the last page on thread 19 this blew me away: HOW DID BL KNOW THIS?????
    He did not say that before....

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    ORIGINALY Bobbisangel

    I heard on the early morning news today that Lockhart is saying now that Shaniya's mother traded her to cover a drug debt. She must have owed Mario a large amount of money for drugs and they decided that Shaniya would be an acceptable trade off. I hope they both get the needle. It took Lockhart long enough to admit that the mother was into drugs.

    There was 'rumor' at the beginning of the case that the mom sold Shaniya to cover a drug debt, but it was never confirmed.

    The first I saw that info come from the dad was from the Oprah interview. Oprah asked him that. She said she'd heard that. The dad said he'd heard that too. Oprah also asked him about the mom being on drugs and he said he'd never seen any indication of it.

    HTH
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    songline: From the last page on thread 19 this blew me away:
    HOW DID BL KNOW THIS?????
    He did not say that before....

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    BL knows alot...and he knows he has watch his back with all the going ons in the group that is associated with AD JMO
    Last edited by GetSmart; 11-21-2009 at 12:45 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by songline View Post
    From the last page on thread 19 this blew me away: HOW DID BL KNOW THIS?????
    He did not say that before....

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    ORIGINALY Bobbisangel

    I heard on the early morning news today that Lockhart is saying now that Shaniya's mother traded her to cover a drug debt. She must have owed Mario a large amount of money for drugs and they decided that Shaniya would be an acceptable trade off. I hope they both get the needle. It took Lockhart long enough to admit that the mother was into drugs.
    I am speechless.
    Kyron, HALEIGH, ADJI & Gabriel NEEDS PRAYERS NOW TO FIND THEM!. Zahra & Jonathan in heaven
    Justice for Hailey!!!!
    No Justice for Caylee Marie..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by fran View Post
    There was 'rumor' at the beginning of the case that the mom sold Shaniya to cover a drug debt, but it was never confirmed.

    The first I saw that info come from the dad was from the Oprah interview. Oprah asked him that. She said she'd heard that. The dad said he'd heard that too. Oprah also asked him about the mom being on drugs and he said he'd never seen any indication of it.

    fran
    What the father and aunt knew beforehand about AD and her situation we may never know. Yet you all are free to believe whatever you wish.

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    You know - it is quite possible that Aunt Carey asked that she not be included in the Obit. Maybe she didn't feel it conveyed her feelings exactly at this very difficult time. My prayers are with her and her brother at this time.

    Salem

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    It would not surprise me that Aunt Carey prepared the obituary and in the distraught frame of mind that she is in right now simply forgot to put herself in. Have seen this happen in obituaries where the situation is overwhelming and you just simply forget to put yourself in the obit because you are trying to get everything else right for everybody else.

    As always MOO.

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    IMO, could be a falling out between Aunt and dad over all of this.

    BTW, is DAVIS a real common name in N.C.?????

    Seems to be so many in this case, on both sides of the family.
    Kyron, HALEIGH, ADJI & Gabriel NEEDS PRAYERS NOW TO FIND THEM!. Zahra & Jonathan in heaven
    Justice for Hailey!!!!
    No Justice for Caylee Marie..........


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    Let's not forgot Shaniya was not the only child living in this environment. There are two other children. What they have experienced we do not yet know. Everyone applauds that Brenda has been evicted - what does this mean for her child?

    I will continue to sleuth and explore the circumstances of Shaniya's life up until her death. Mario McNeil ended this child's life - the events that led up to November 11th need to be brought out if only if it may save one child's life in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lbminnesota View Post
    Let's not forgot Shaniya was not the only child living in this environment. There are two other children. What they have experienced we do not yet know. Everyone applauds that Brenda has been evicted - what does this mean for her child?

    I will continue to sleuth and explore the circumstances of Shaniya's life up until her death. Mario McNeil ended this child's life - the events that led up to November 11th need to be brought out if only if it may save one child's life in the future.
    Yes the 2 other children living in that filth!
    With bad people surrounding them.
    IMO Brenda is as much to blame for the sewer/filth also!
    IMO she should be charged with child endangerment for her own child if nothing else!
    There is no excuse for an infant to be exposed to that type of fumes, smell, bugs an filth!
    Kyron, HALEIGH, ADJI & Gabriel NEEDS PRAYERS NOW TO FIND THEM!. Zahra & Jonathan in heaven
    Justice for Hailey!!!!
    No Justice for Caylee Marie..........

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    O/T Just wanted to thank the administration and staff of Websleuth's on the excellent job they do in producing the BEST forum. It is the best BECAUSE of the guidelines we are held to by the moderators. They are fair and helpful in keeping a wide assortment of personalities working toward a common goal. I , like many others, have found a home here at W/S and just wanted to thank you all

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    Quote Originally Posted by songline View Post
    From the last page on thread 19 this blew me away: HOW DID BL KNOW THIS?????
    He did not say that before....

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    ORIGINALY Bobbisangel

    I heard on the early morning news today that Lockhart is saying now that Shaniya's mother traded her to cover a drug debt. She must have owed Mario a large amount of money for drugs and they decided that Shaniya would be an acceptable trade off. I hope they both get the needle. It took Lockhart long enough to admit that the mother was into drugs.
    Nope, he NEVER said that before. This is why I love it when people continue to talk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by passionflower View Post
    Yes the 2 other children living in that filth!
    With bad people surrounding them.
    IMO Brenda is as much to blame for the sewer/filth also!
    IMO she should be charged with child endangerment for her own child if nothing else!
    There is no excuse for an infant to be exposed to that type of fumes, smell, bugs an filth!
    But we don't know that the trailer had sewage problems prior to that fateful night. It may or may not have, but it seems to me that it possibly could have been caused by someone flushing stuff hurriedly down the commode to get rid of it (like drug paraphanalia?!) in preparation for a possible planned event (like a 911 call about a missing child?).
    Anything I post (other than a quote) is simply my own opinion.

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