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  1. #31
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    It is for this very reason that I do not pursue finding out anything about my biological parents.

    My cousins are also adopted, and the older of the two girls did finally locate their bio dad. Where is he? In prison in Southern Illinois. Why? Oh, it seems that there was a fatal shooting during a drunken brawl. Who did he shoot? Their Mother. It seems that during their argument she told him that she wasn't even certain that the younger daughter was his. Bam! End of argument. *shudders*

    I was floored and cannot imagine how she felt. She was actually talking about going and meeting him. I don't know whether or not she ever did, but I can tell you that her discovery has helped quench my yearning to learn anything about my bio parents. I guess I've come to the decision that I've lived this long not knowing and that may be better than finding out something that makes it hard to live with. Does that make any sense?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TallCoolOne View Post
    It is for this very reason that I do not pursue finding out anything about my biological parents.

    My cousins are also adopted, and the older of the two girls did finally locate their bio dad. Where is he? In prison in Southern Illinois. Why? Oh, it seems that there was a fatal shooting during a drunken brawl. Who did he shoot? Their Mother. It seems that during their argument she told him that she wasn't even certain that the younger daughter was his. Bam! End of argument. *shudders*

    I was floored and cannot imagine how she felt. She was actually talking about going and meeting him. I don't know whether or not she ever did, but I can tell you that her discovery has helped quench my yearning to learn anything about my bio parents. I guess I've come to the decision that I've lived this long not knowing and that may be better than finding out something that makes it hard to live with. Does that make any sense?
    Yes.
    After reading your post, it makes perfect sense!
    .... ....... My posts are my opinion, only.

  3. #33
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    This poor man was better off not knowing!

  4. #34
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    Oh man, that is sad! Sometimes ignorance is bliss...

    I hope he's strong and able to resist the temptation to meld his own identity with his notorious biodad. Sounds like he's a wonderful young man, despite the cellular connection-- hope he can prove to himself that the reach of old Charlie doesn't even extend through his gene pool! I wish him psychological triumph.

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    Oh man, this poor guy. I can't even imagine what he is going through.

    I just started reading a book about the Manson "Family".

  6. #36
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    That poor guy opened a can of worms.

    Now what?

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    This guy should get DNA to make sure of this!!

    I was adopted as a 3 week old infant in 1964. At age 21, I found my birthmother after a five year search (there was no internet at the time or it would have been much quicker - lol). A few years later, I contacted the man she told me was my father and he expressed doubts but admitted it was possible.

    My birthmom was so sure and so adamant he was the guy that I finally had DNA paternity testing done - to the tune of 700 plus dollars (this was in 1993 and it was more expensive back then.)

    Long story short, he wasn't my father!!!

    My birthmother really seemed to believe this man was my father, she gave her DNA and everything to make the test more accurate. (99% as opposed to 97%)

    Needless to say, I was devastated at the time, as I really believed her. I only had the testing done to assure the man I thought was my father that it was true, that he really was my father. I never doubted it for a minute and had believed it for about nine years. The fellow in question was a nice guy who wanted to pursue a relationship with me if he indeed was my father.

    The point of all this is that this guy does not know for sure that Manson is his father, only that he could be. It was an drug facilitated "orgy" according to his birthmother, after all. (There were lots of those in the 60's it seems- I was conceived under similar circumstances - but my birth mother's reasoning seemed sound when she explained why she believed the guy was my Dad - will spare you the gory details as to why, but she had believed he was my father since before I was born - it had nothing to do with my appearance)

    I had obtained a picture of my alleged father before the testing, and guess what, I looked very much like him just like this guy resembles Manson. the resemblance wasn't just my own opinion (which could have been wishful thinking of course) but was just so "obvious" to my (now ex) husband, my daughters and several friends to whom I'd shown the picture. So, there you go.

    This is irresponsible journalism IMO.
    Last edited by carrie; 03-08-2010 at 05:03 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smart blonde View Post
    LOL!
    Nice to know I am in good company! I've done the same thing myself many times over the years- tried to find all I can about what happened to the children of the Manson Family.

    About 20 years ago, I remember seeing a grainy documentary of the group at Spawn Ranch, filmed prior to their arrests and notoriety for the Tate/LaBianca murders.

    The film showed many beautiful, small children of the members, being 'raised' among all those drug-addicted, Charlie-worshipping, 'free-loving' hippies... and for some reason seeing that short home-movie style footage really started a fascination for me about what happened to those kids after many of their parents were arrested for some of the most heinous crimes in California's history.

    Vincent Bugliosi's infamous book, Helter Skelter, even named some of the children of the different members.

    I remember that Charles Manson and (I think?) Sandra Goode had a little boy together named/called 'Valentine' (his name was later changed), who was raised by Valentine's maternal grandparents, somewhere in the mid-west. Just a few years ago, as an adult, he granted an interview to the media. I was so impressed at how well adjusted he seemed.

    Anyway, very interesting stuff.
    So many of them settled in the mid-west!!

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    There was a DNA test done but not against Manson's DNA but that of his grandson, Jason Freeman. It was not a match.

    My guess is that Manson would not give up his DNA because he was afraid that it might tie him to a crime he was never convicted of doing.

    You have to scroll through a bunch of pix of Manson to get to the meat of the story.

    http://www.zimbio.com/Charles+Manson...pecter+Charles

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    If it helps, I heard that Manson's letters from jail usually make no sense or are just major ramblings about really...nothing.
    What you're dealing with is a horrendous crime. Three young boys murdered in cold blood. Just that alone upsets people. You look at the bodies and there are these savage injuries all over. It affects people emotionally and warps their judgement and then someone says, "Maybe it's satanic."

    And they say, "Well the only type of person who would do this would be someone like that."


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    The role he was born to play? Charles Manson's 'son' depicts his killer father in bizarre performance art mock retrial staged in LA gallery

    Charles Manson's reputed son has recreated his serial killer father's infamous trial at an LA gallery

    Matthew Roberts plays Manson in a performance to 'highlight the unfairness' of the cult leader's 1970s trial

    Manson masterminded the 1960s killing spree which included murder actress Sharon Tate

    Roberts has formed relationship with serial killer despite learning that his mother was raped by Manson

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz3vmDuHrSy

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