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    AZ - Timothy Romans, 39, & Vincent Romero, 29, slain, St Johns, 5 Nov 2008 - #6

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    During a hearing Thursday in St. Johns, a judge set sentencing for Jan. 14. That's more than a year after the boy was charged in a double homicide.....

    Under the plea deal, he won't serve any time in the state juvenile corrections facility but could be sentenced to a county juvenile facility. Treatment and probation are other options.

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...8JpLgD9CC4FRO1

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    Quote Originally Posted by colette View Post
    During a hearing Thursday in St. Johns, a judge set sentencing for Jan. 14. That's more than a year after the boy was charged in a double homicide.....

    Under the plea deal, he won't serve any time in the state juvenile corrections facility but could be sentenced to a county juvenile facility. Treatment and probation are other options.

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...8JpLgD9CC4FRO1

    Guess this means the "letters" won't be seen? Judge would have ruled already, right?


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    http://apps.supremecourt.az.gov/docs...S%20122309.pdf

    New document. Victim impact statement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noZme View Post
    video report about the letters, possible influence on previous judge
    snipped by me.

    This is exactly why Roca was removed. I wouldn't call the letters typical victims impact statements, they are dramatic and emotional, even making accusations against the boys biological mom, which is not the place for these types of things.


    IMO unfortunately they do not represent the TRUE Tim Romans either.
    Last edited by JBean; 12-31-2009 at 11:26 PM. Reason: fix broken quotes
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    Quote Originally Posted by azmama View Post



    IMO unfortunately they do not represent the TRUE Tim Romans either.
    They represent Tim Romans as his wife and daughters see him, and the impact his murder has had on them. Whether he was a cad and had affairs ect, he still did not deserve to be gunned down.
    Last edited by JBean; 12-31-2009 at 11:27 PM. Reason: fix broken quote

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    Quote Originally Posted by azmama View Post

    snipped by me.

    This is exactly why Roca was removed. I wouldn't call the letters typical victims impact statements, they are dramatic and emotional, even making accusations against the boys biological mom, which is not the place for these types of things.


    IMO unfortunately they do not represent the TRUE Tim Romans either.

    I've written and read aloud a victim impact statement. This is exactly what they are.

    How do you expect the victims to describe the impact in their lives, having their father/husband gunned down by a cold blooded killer? How could that possibly be unemotional ?????? How about you try, just for a second, placing yourselves in their shoes? Instead of worry to death if the boy had a "normal" and merry christmas with his mother...think about the victims who spent Christmas without their father/husband.

    They are simply sharing their feelings, their loss and their desire for justice!
    Last edited by JBean; 12-31-2009 at 11:28 PM. Reason: fix broken quotes


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    so he should not have a "normal and merry Christmas"? -and what kind of Christmas should he have instead?

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    Quote Originally Posted by trofanji View Post
    so he should not have a "normal and merry Christmas"? -and what kind of Christmas should he have instead?
    Personally, I don't care if he had a Merry Christmas. I hope he spent a good part of it remembering what he did and missing his father and feeling bad about murdering Tim. I hope he recognizes what he took away from his victim's families.

    Do you think it would be healthier for him to have had a happy, carefree, fun filled holiday without even giving the murders of two men a second thought?

    I know Tim's family did not have a happy, carefree, fun filled holiday. Have you no compassion for them?


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    Quote Originally Posted by azmama View Post

    snipped by me.

    This is exactly why Roca was removed. I wouldn't call the letters typical victims impact statements, they are dramatic and emotional, even making accusations against the boys biological mom, which is not the place for these types of things.


    IMO unfortunately they do not represent the TRUE Tim Romans either.
    But most assuredly they do represent the true Tim Romans to his family. The very ones that really count in this tragedy anyway. That is why victim impact statements are given by family. It isn't what he meant to others or even those who never knew him. It is to be able to express their own heartfelt words about a man they had known and loved for decades who's lives now have forever been changed by his senseless loss of life.

    All victim impact statements I have ever read or seen or packed with raw emotion and are highly dramatic. That is why many times when they are read in court it brings everyone there to tears. They should write what they feel about the tragedy that has struck their lives.

    God bless the Romans family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oceanblueeyes View Post
    http://apps.supremecourt.az.gov/docs...S%20122309.pdf

    New document. Victim impact statement.
    Those were very powerful statements. My continued prayers for Roman's family.
    Last edited by southcitymom; 12-29-2009 at 11:05 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by azmama View Post

    snipped by me.

    This is exactly why Roca was removed. I wouldn't call the letters typical victims impact statements, they are dramatic and emotional, even making accusations against the boys biological mom, which is not the place for these types of things.


    IMO unfortunately they do not represent the TRUE Tim Romans either.
    Are there restrictions surrounding what can and cannot be said in victim impact statements? I've never heard such a thing - I would think you could say anything you wanted.

    "Dramatic and emotional?????!!!!!!!"......I would think if my father or husband were murdered in cold blood that would be a dramatic and emotional event for me. But maybe I'm just too sensitive......

    Of course, much of how the children feel about "justice" is what they hear from the adults around him. That goes without saying. But it should also go without saying that those letters represent a side of Tim Romans that is true to some of the people who were closest to him.

    ETA - I didn't watch the video regarding Roca. He's been removed and I'm fine with that.

    How anyone could feel anything but empathy for Roman's wife and daughters after reading those is beyond me.
    Last edited by JBean; 12-31-2009 at 11:34 PM. Reason: fix broken quotes
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