NC - Shaniya Davis, 5, Fayetteville, 10 Nov 2009 - Allegedly sold by mother #26

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God Bless You Shaniya,
Rest in Peace Baby!


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You didn't close the thread due to my posting did you?? Hope not.
 
I don't think BL has a problem showing his emotion....I don't think he's numb.....he's just....detached. What I see is a man who is very concerned about his image. So, he gets himself an entertainment atty. and starts the rounds of talk shows to deflect what he knows is coming. Preemptive strike. All about HIM! He makes me ill..
 
Good night everybody I hope tomorrow we get some news. :bedtime:
 
It bears repeating that the people charged with the crime - AD and McNeil are the ones RESPONSIBLE for the death of sweet Shaniya, and all this frustration about how a grieving father should or shouldn't act on TV belongs directed at the mom and McNeil and whoever else was involved with this.

I just don't buy that they were smart enough to pull this off.

I am concerned that it may be swept under the rug from LE. Hope not, but that is much more of a concern than how brad is reacting.
 
I don't think BL has a problem showing his emotion....I don't think he's numb.....he's just....detached. What I see is a man who is very concerned about his image. So, he gets himself an entertainment atty. and starts the rounds of talk shows to deflect what he knows is coming. Preemptive strike. All about HIM! He makes me ill..

The first time that I felt really ill was when his son was speaking to Nancy Grace and BL came out of the house and walked up to his son and wrapped an arm around him and kissed the top of his son's head. The look on his son's face spoke volumes to me. He was not comfortable at all with BL's actions. There actually seemed to be an anxious look on his face, IMO. As if he was a bit concerned that he had misspoke about something and his father was not pleased. The entire actions of his father looked to be "acting" the loving father bit and did not look to be true feelings.
 
It bears repeating that the people charged with the crime - AD and McNeil are the ones RESPONSIBLE for the death of sweet Shaniya, and all this frustration about how a grieving father should or shouldn't act on TV belongs directed at the mom and McNeil and whoever else was involved with this.

I just don't buy that they were smart enough to pull this off.

I am concerned that it may be swept under the rug from LE. Hope not, but that is much more of a concern than how brad is reacting.

Hi Charlie,
I think they're smart enough to pull this off. True, AD isn't the brightest bulb in the pack, But it didn't take much grey matter to sell the child she had no interest in to a drug pedophile. I hope AD and Mcneil burn in :furious: you know where. This case will stay in my mind forever. The picture of McNeil carrying Shanyia in the hotel will haunt me forever.
Now lets pray something is done about this child AD is carrying.///before she sells her/him into prostitution.
 
It bears repeating that the people charged with the crime - AD and McNeil are the ones RESPONSIBLE for the death of sweet Shaniya, and all this frustration about how a grieving father should or shouldn't act on TV belongs directed at the mom and McNeil and whoever else was involved with this.

I just don't buy that they were smart enough to pull this off.

I am concerned that it may be swept under the rug from LE. Hope not, but that is much more of a concern than how brad is reacting.

I see this as being two separate parts of the same case. Yes, the two people charged with the crime are responsible for the means and the end of Shaniya's life. You are portraying something which could be of importance in this case as "frustration on how the father is acting on tv"? IMO, there is much more to this than meets the eye right now. JMO, but maybe you shouldn't be so quick to dismiss other's observations as inconsequential until the case has been fully investigated. This is still an open investigation.
 
Hi Charlie,
I think they're smart enough to pull this off. True, AD isn't the brightest bulb in the pack, But it didn't take much grey matter to sell the child she had no interest in to a drug pedophile. I hope AD and Mcneil burn in :furious: you know where. This case will stay in my mind forever. The picture of McNeil carrying Shanyia in the hotel will haunt me forever. Now lets pray something is done about this child AD is carrying.///before she sells her/him into prostitution.

That image is truly a horror that I can't forget either. I've lost a lot of sleep over this awful crime. I hope that AD will never get her hands on the baby she is carrying, nor on the seven yr. old either. I hope she is also charged with the murder of Shaniya and never sees freedom again.
 
I see this as being two separate parts of the same case. Yes, the two people charged with the crime are responsible for the means and the end of Shaniya's life. You are portraying something which could be of importance in this case as "frustration on how the father is acting on tv"? IMO, there is much more to this than meets the eye right now. JMO, but maybe you shouldn't be so quick to dismiss other's observations as inconsequential until the case has been fully investigated. This is still an open investigation.

Well then out with it, are you making an accusation that Brad was willfully and knowingly involved in the selling of murder of Shaniya?
 
I don't think BL has a problem showing his emotion....I don't think he's numb.....he's just....detached. What I see is a man who is very concerned about his image. So, he gets himself an entertainment atty. and starts the rounds of talk shows to deflect what he knows is coming. Preemptive strike. All about HIM! He makes me ill..

You are soooo right-on.

I was just reading over at the other board. They're drinking the BL kool-aid over there. :sick::yuck::puke:

jmo
 
:) Is this a message board where we share opinions and speculations?

jmo

Well then be clear and back up the speculations. It sounds a lot more like veiled accusations. If there is proof that he did something other than poor judgment, I would certainly like to hear it. But not liking how someone presents himself after the most horrifying thing that could happen to his baby girl, does nothing as far as sleuthing.

I thought this was still in force? [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4473475&postcount=366"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Found Deceased NC-Shaniya Davis, 5, Allegedly sold by mother 11/10/09 #21[/ame]
Guys, we can all admit that everyone in Shaniya's life made mistakes. Mistakes that lead to Shaniya staying with her mother when she shouldn't have but this is a true crime forum. Not a bashing over and over people who made terrible mistakes forum.

I am asking now, in a much stronger tone, that the trashing STOP. It ADDS NOTHING to the discussion. We are above that.

From now on no warnings. I'll ban for good because if you can't get what I am asking you to do then this forum isn't for you.
 
But there's trashing and there is discussion of questionable aspects of a person's personality...and statements...and reactions.

I missed any accusatory statements, I did however see "observations", lots of "I think", and even a couple of "I see" comments.
Those make it pretty clear those statements are personal opinion.

Emotions get a little high, but most of the statements are not bashing. They are statements of personal speculation based on personal perception, and most are clearly stated as such.

MOO.
 
I don't know how anyone in BL position could not show emotion, and I don't understand how anyone that knew this child, spoke with this child, had anything to do with her at all could not be full of remorse at the decision to allow SD to go unsupervised for that many weeks with no physical check-up.
I know AD may have had SD "papers" but what would it have hurt for "anyone" that knew her to just "pop" by to have checked on this lovely little girl. (You can tell, she was a heart warmer,NO way BL didn't have his heart touched by this child!)
People handle tragedy in different ways. People do weird, horrible, things. People do good things.
I could understand if this father's child, was snatched from her home,and then sold in to sex trafficking that he, be given a platform to speak against this horrible crime,BUT in this case he had a choice where SD was living when this happened.
I really do have a hinky feeling, that the A's wrote some book and are secretly publishing it on how to "MILK as Much Blood Money As You Can". I am just shocked that AD's family haven't started selling pictures to the enquire.
I want justice, I want justice for Caylee,Haylee,Somer, Shanyia and all the other little ones I didn't name. We need to make Death Penalty mean Death...WE ARE STILL FEEDING CHARLIE MANSON...how much money has that crazy loon cost us?...it's insane...
What are we going to do to stop the killing that is going on???Damn can't these people get their 15 minutes of fame without killing someone else???
I know a guy that never worked and when it got cold he would do something (rock throwing)to spend the winter in jail.. he got out, got hooked up on SSI..started drawing a check.Gets free medical...makes me sick to know how many hard working people.go to bed every night worrying how they are going to eat and pay for their medicine... sad, upside down world we live in...but Thank God, we are alive, we have electricity, hot water, inside john..food in our refrigerator...dishwasher that works..I don't know the answers ,but I am just glad to be alive to be able to help figure it out!!
 
Again, has he been accused of anything by LE?

No, and no one has said he has been accused of anything by LE.

I have expressed opinions, and they are my true opinions. I have questioned BL's judgement, or lack thereof, I should say. This was the time that BL did what was expedient for himself in letting Shaniya go to AD to live, and this was the time the worst fate imaginable happened to her.
 
No, and no one has said he has been accused of anything by LE.

I have expressed opinions, and they are my true opinions. I have questioned BL's judgement, or lack thereof, I should say. This was the time that BL did what was expedient for himself in letting Shaniya go to AD to live, and this was the time the worst fate imaginable happened to her.

I'm not talking about the questioning his judgment...I question his judgment in letting her go there, but I understand wanting a parent to step up - and hoping maybe this time it will work out.

BUT - I firmly believe this is something Antoinette had planned, and whether it was a more permanent situation, or a weekend visit, I believe this was already set in motion.

My issue is the alluding that he was in cohoots with the mom, or that there was something unseemly in how he touched his son during a previous interview.

I am normally a crier - I cry at patriotic songs, I cry at hallmark commercials, I teared up when my daughter FINALLY got to meet cinderella in person...but when I went through something terribly traumatic, I was confused, I was dazed, I was loopy for months, if not a couple of years, and I was pissed. Only my closest friends and family knew how devastated I was - I put every bit of energy I had into trying (unsuccessfully) for justice. There simply is no correct way to be angry or grieve or understand evil and crazy.

I will step up and say I was wrong if he is proven to be involved, but i just see no indication of it - and think blaming him is as bad as making Antoinette into some type of victim.
 
The first time that I felt really ill was when his son was speaking to Nancy Grace and BL came out of the house and walked up to his son and wrapped an arm around him and kissed the top of his son's head. The look on his son's face spoke volumes to me. He was not comfortable at all with BL's actions. There actually seemed to be an anxious look on his face, IMO. As if he was a bit concerned that he had misspoke about something and his father was not pleased. The entire actions of his father looked to be "acting" the loving father bit and did not look to be true feelings.

That's exactly how I felt,it was uncomfortable,embarrassing for the son actually,it all seemed very unnatural and I think it even threw Nancy off for a little bit.And then he sit next to him and wasn't going to talk,what in the world was all of that about?I just felt really sorry for the boy.He was doing the interview very maturely and then he just like lost his train of thought or threw him off balanced,seemed a little nervous and trying not to be.I really felt a very controlling move and I'm still disturbed by it.
 
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