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    2008.07.15 Caylee allegedly called Casey

    OK, now this is the biggest whopper of them all (phone records aside), now that we have seen that Caylee was indeed deceased by this time per the plant experts.

    Does anyone know if this statement by Casey will be able to be KEPT OUT of the jury's sight, or how it might be argued away?



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    Over on the RHornsby thread he is saying every one of the statements she's made is admissable. I'm hoping it includes this one!



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    Quote Originally Posted by tweety933 View Post
    OK, now this is the biggest whopper of them all (phone records aside), now that we have seen that Caylee was indeed deceased by this time per the plant experts.

    Does anyone know if this statement by Casey will be able to be KEPT OUT of the jury's sight, or how it might be argued away?
    Casey won't take the stand, so all they could present is her statement. She won't offer any explanation for the claim.
    They can then prove that claim was in fact a lie.

    Defense will say we have acknowledged that my client lied angle but being a liar under a time of extreme stress does not make her a killer. Kind of the you are not going to like my client or understand everything she has done, but that doesn't prove the case.

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    Thanks for remembering this!! Nothing says "big fat liar" like a 4wk post-mortum phone call.



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    Quote Originally Posted by DaughterAlice View Post
    Thanks for remembering this!! Nothing says "big fat liar" like a 4wk post-mortum phone call.
    And I can't even get my cell phone coverage in my living room!



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    Casey gave a written statement in which she stated that she spoke with her daughter..
    I'd be ashamed if this wasn't allowed in at trial!
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    Reasonable Doubt

    Is it reasonable to doubt that THE person telling law enforcement that they spoke with the (now proven deceased) child, is not in fact the child's KILLER who is trying to delay the discovery of such a fact?

    NO way do I expect jurors to think any differently than I do myself. This case is gonna hinge on what is REASONABLE to doubt.

    I'm glad to hear that this testimony from Casey will most likely be put in front of the jury to hear.

    Why else would you falsely say you heard from a missing child, if you hadn't?

    I sincerely hope that Casey is convicted, whether or not the death penalty is imposed.



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    Quote Originally Posted by logicalgirl View Post
    Over on the RHornsby thread he is saying every one of the statements she's made is admissable. I'm hoping it includes this one!
    This lie also is the most knee-jerk in reaction of the many she told. It comes precisely at the point in the interview that LE is gently hinting that something may have happened to Caylee, that she is not "in the same state" as she was previously.

    You can almost hear the light bulb turn on in her brain (similar to LA describing what LE will do when they arrive at the house and want to see if Caylee is really sleeping at Zanny's) and she instantly reacts by saying she spoke with her yesterday and immediately, as is her m.o., launches into the overly detailed book and shoe story (which sounds like it was lifted right off the "You Are My Sunshine" video), to counter the suggestion.

    She obviously never had much practice thinking up things to say beforehand - if she did she would have certainly mentioned that the evening before as they were trying to locate Zanny. Sometimes I am not sure how much is indirectly because of CA's lack of follow-through and feeding her excuses, or how much may be she is just naturally the Idiot Savant of Liars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by impatientredhead View Post
    Casey won't take the stand, so all they could present is her statement. She won't offer any explanation for the claim.
    They can then prove that claim was in fact a lie.

    Defense will say we have acknowledged that my client lied angle but being a liar under a time of extreme stress does not make her a killer. Kind of the you are not going to like my client or understand everything she has done, but that doesn't prove the case.

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    But, this particular lie, I believe, points to her as the murderer. She was still in her mode of the previous 4 weeks of deceipt, and this day she receives a phone call?? Just thinking about her doing this again, makes my head hurt.


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    Quote Originally Posted by impatientredhead View Post
    Casey won't take the stand, so all they could present is her statement. She won't offer any explanation for the claim.
    They can then prove that claim was in fact a lie.

    Defense will say we have acknowledged that my client lied angle but being a liar under a time of extreme stress does not make her a killer. Kind of the you are not going to like my client or understand everything she has done, but that doesn't prove the case.

    moo
    But you aren't saying that is a reasonable believable defense argument are you? I really respect your opinions..


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    Quote Originally Posted by logicalgirl View Post
    But you aren't saying that is a reasonable believable defense argument are you? I really respect your opinions..
    I don't think the jury will buy it, no.
    I think it points to consciousness of guilt absolutely.

    Just pointing out that I do not expect that we will hear any explanation of that statement from Casey or the defense team. It would not benefit the defense to keep the topic on the table of any length of time. All they can really say is she lied but that does not make her a murderer.

    My personal belief is the only real defense in this case is to hammer away at the state not proving their case in hopes of getting one juror to feel there is a reasonable doubt. But even that only brings back a hung jury not an acquittal.


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    I get the feeling that statements like that will be the centerpiece of opening & closing arguments. Almost like a "If the glove does not fit, you must acquit" mantra.


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    Quote Originally Posted by hroark2112 View Post
    I get the feeling that statements like that will be the centerpiece of opening & closing arguments. Almost like a "If the glove does not fit, you must acquit" mantra.
    This may just be the longest opening statement in history.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tweety933 View Post
    Is it reasonable to doubt that THE person telling law enforcement that they spoke with the (now proven deceased) child, is not in fact the child's KILLER who is trying to delay the discovery of such a fact?

    NO way do I expect jurors to think any differently than I do myself. This case is gonna hinge on what is REASONABLE to doubt.

    I'm glad to hear that this testimony from Casey will most likely be put in front of the jury to hear.

    Why else would you falsely say you heard from a missing child, if you hadn't?

    I sincerely hope that Casey is convicted, whether or not the death penalty is imposed.
    I could just kiss you, Tweety! This is such a logical, almost inarguable statement! Why in the world would the worried, distraught mother of a missing 2 year old lie about a phone conversation they had had just the day before? There is, IMO, no other reasonable explanation except that she was trying to hide the fact that the child was dead. Period. I sure hope the SA has thought about this.




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    Great Point!!! She was hoping all would believe she had been kidnapped by the (cough) Nanny !!! Thanks for reminding us of her stupidity once again!!


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