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    Redacted Search Warrants For Roy Clark Released 2009.12.02

    New thread for the new Search Warrant affidavits released today.

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    For reference here is the link to today's search warrant's released:
    PDF: Search Warrants
    http://www.newhavenindependent.org/a...nd%20Clark.pdf

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    Read Clark's search warrants (1 of 2)
    http://media2.wtnh.com/_local/docume...rk_warrant.pdf

    Read Clark's search warrants (2 of 2)
    http://media2.wtnh.com/_local/docume...rant_clark.pdf

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    There are several new pieces of information that made it past the redaction censor in the 73 page Search Warrant affidavits:

    -Two days before police arrested Ray Clark for murder, they found blood “in plain view” on the kitchen floor of his Middletown apartment.

    -Police later found blood stains inside a red Ford Taurus in which Clark was seen riding right away from the scene where Yale grad student Annie Le was killed.

    -A fishing bait and tackle box and shoes with reddish-brown stains were found in Clark's car.

    -Hairs and fibers from Clark's car were "rolled and tagged".

    -A blood stained "Wipe-All" medical scrub was found with boots appearing to belong to Ray.
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    Can't change who's DNA they found everywhere....RC's & just maybe Jennifer Hramadka's too!...I still have to read the docs....comment only from what I caught from the news articles!

    I wonder if RC's girlfriend was involved before, during & after the murder of Annie. If they find her DNA she needs to get the same charges no matter what her involvement was at any time. She never came in for questioning though she agreed & now the SA are asking for her DNA! She had to have known what happened...my hinky meter tells me that she is just as gulity as RC! IMO

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    Attorney says DNA sought from Yale suspect fiancee
    December 2, 2009
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    An attorney for the fiancee of a Yale lab technician charged with killing a graduate student said Wednesday he's been told authorities are seeking a sample of her DNA.

    Robert Berke, attorney for Jennifer Hramadka, told The Associated Press that it's unclear why authorities want her DNA. He says he was told in September after Annie Le was killed that she is not a suspect.

    "I've been advised that they're seeking a sample of her DNA," Berke said.

    Hramadka's boyfriend, Raymond Clark III, is charged with killing the 24-year-old Le five days before Le's wedding in September.

    Berke said investigators wanted to interview Hramadka shortly after the crime, but the interview did not take place.


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    more new findings:

    + "Documents show that throughout the investigation, several key pieces of evidence proved elusive: A brown leather computation notebook belonging to Annie Le. The clothes Clark was wearing when he entered the building. The laces on his workboots, which were found hidden in a ceiling. The brown mule shoes she was wearing when she entered the building. And several missing beads from a necklace she was wearing. "

    + "Clark was seen walking north on Cedar Street at 4 p.m. on Sept. 8. At 4:01 p.m., he stepped into a coffee shop at Congress Avenue and Cedar Street. He left four minutes later with his fiancee and another adult woman. All three got into a red Ford Taurus. The woman drove the car. Clark sat in the passenger’s seat and his fiancee sat in the back. They went to Clark and his fiancee’s apartment. Cops later searched that getaway car and found numerous bloodstains on the carpet and door panel, according to the affidavit. The affidavit doesn’t say who owns the car. That part is blacked out. But an FBI agent testified that Clark was later seen traveling “quite frequently” in the car."

    + "Even after Ray Clark’s arrest on Thursday Sept. 17, cops returned to remove evidence from 10 Amistad, the lab building where he and Le worked. On two different occasions, police found potential evidence suspiciously stuffed into drain pipes in the building. According to the affidavits:

    On Sept. 20, the building’s night sanitation crew discovered a clogged drain in the Animal Research Center. The crew reported it to detectives, who recovered medical scrubs stuffed into the drain pipe.

    On Sept. 22, the detectives were again called to the building on reports that there was potential evidence in a drain pipe in the lab auto-clave room. They found a large plastic bag, a white rag, tweezers, a pair of scissors, and several plastic centrifuge tubes. A screwdriver was also found in the drain pipe."

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    I'm surprised no one is posting about the docs!!! Not to offend anyone...it's sad there are so many missing cases added at WS's everyday. I am still so upset about what happened to Annie that I will be around until there is Justice for her!

    When is this going to stop....the laws need to be changed on repeat offenders. In this case RC had no record, but in the case of Lily Burk's murder he had numerous run in's w/LE....yet he was still left on the streets. He even had passed the 3 strike rule long before he murdered Lily.

    I hope RC & if JH is involved they both get what they deserve! IMO

    I think the crime was disgusting & Annie's family & loved ones will always be in my thoughts & prayers.

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    LE has him in an interview saying he never spoke with Annie outside of the work enviroment. He sure lied about that one....he WAS e-mailing her!

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    [quote=Angel Who Cares;4515714]I'm surprised no one is posting about the docs!!! Not to offend anyone...it's sad there are so many missing cases added at WS's everyday. I am still so upset about what happened to Annie that I will be around until there is Justice for her!

    When is this going to stop....the laws need to be changed on repeat offenders. In this case RC had no record, but in the case of Lily Burk's murder he had numerous run in's w/LE....yet he was still left on the streets. He even had passed the 3 strike rule long before he murdered Lily.

    I hope RC & if JH is involved they both get what they deserve! IMO :behind
    I think the crime was disgusting & Annie's family & loved ones will always be in my thoughts & prayers.
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    I'm with you Angel, I read everything you post, but not too many come to this forum. I feel just as outraged as you. I didn't read anything about the e-mails, and his girlfriend's DNA. Where did you find that?

    Thanks, again for keeping up-to-date on this case. I look for info every day.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Angel Who Cares View Post
    Can't change who's DNA they found everywhere....RC's & just maybe Jennifer Hramadka's too!...I still have to read the docs....comment only from what I caught from the news articles!

    I wonder if RC's girlfriend was involved before, during & after the murder of Annie. If they find her DNA she needs to get the same charges no matter what her involvement was at any time. She never came in for questioning though she agreed & now the SA are asking for her DNA! She had to have known what happened...my hinky meter tells me that she is just as gulity as RC! IMO

    Added link to article for reference here!
    Attorney says DNA sought from Yale suspect fiancee
    December 2, 2009
    <snipped>
    An attorney for the fiancee of a Yale lab technician charged with killing a graduate student said Wednesday he's been told authorities are seeking a sample of her DNA.

    Robert Berke, attorney for Jennifer Hramadka, told The Associated Press that it's unclear why authorities want her DNA. He says he was told in September after Annie Le was killed that she is not a suspect.

    "I've been advised that they're seeking a sample of her DNA," Berke said.

    Hramadka's boyfriend, Raymond Clark III, is charged with killing the 24-year-old Le five days before Le's wedding in September.

    Berke said investigators wanted to interview Hramadka shortly after the crime, but the interview did not take place.


    Article:
    http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...M9IbwD9CBFRJO0

    She's the biggest reason I think someone else was involved in assisting in cleanup or something. Plus, Angel, don't forget they used to share a/c's together. If they shared a MySpace, chances are they shared email. I happen to think she may have even helped to implicate Clark to the police. Well, what about if it started with her but finished with Clark? Maybe b/c of her jealous tendencies, she sent some of those emails...maybe she started stuff about Annie at school (rumors or whatever)...maybe just maybe she's a little bit guilty, too. Everytime I read about the insinuations this chick made about Annie and then viewing her pictures with those teeth (omg the teeth), to think she talked about Annie who was so darn cute and smart, it was just flat out wierd. I still never found out if she actually had a ring showing their engagement or if it was just a verbal agreement. I know she used that site to talk about her wedding plans, registry or whatever, but usually people have pics when they get engaged. I mean, as far as I know, she never expressed sympathy or concern after Annie went missing. Did she even comment or show concern after Annie was discovered murdered? My suspiscions are still with her being involved somewhat. I guess only time will tell, right?

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    reeseva,
    Here is where I read about the e-mails (along with several other articles!) & it's in the documents too!

    Annie Le Search Warrants: Cops Found Blood on Yale Lab Tech Raymond Clark's Floor
    December 2, 2009 4:32 PM
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    The affidavits also state that Clark sent emails to 24-year-old Annie Le "in the recent past," and that her email address was found in a laboratory locker labeled "Ray,".

    Article:
    http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/12...y5866429.shtml

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jersey*Girl View Post
    She's the biggest reason I think someone else was involved in assisting in cleanup or something. Plus, Angel, don't forget they used to share a/c's together. If they shared a MySpace, chances are they shared email. I happen to think she may have even helped to implicate Clark to the police. Well, what about if it started with her but finished with Clark? Maybe b/c of her jealous tendencies, she sent some of those emails...maybe she started stuff about Annie at school (rumors or whatever)...maybe just maybe she's a little bit guilty, too. Everytime I read about the insinuations this chick made about Annie and then viewing her pictures with those teeth (omg the teeth), to think she talked about Annie who was so darn cute and smart, it was just flat out wierd. I still never found out if she actually had a ring showing their engagement or if it was just a verbal agreement. I know she used that site to talk about her wedding plans, registry or whatever, but usually people have pics when they get engaged. I mean, as far as I know, she never expressed sympathy or concern after Annie went missing. Did she even comment or show concern after Annie was discovered murdered? My suspiscions are still with her being involved somewhat. I guess only time will tell, right?
    Hi, Jersey Girl. I still tend to think that Jennifer didn't help in the cover-up and was indeed kept in the dark. I've always thought, however, that her MySpace rant about an another woman might have emanated from tech gossip or teasing about Raymond's ogling of Annie. As you say, Le was very cute and engaging.

    Does anyone know on what floor she worked? If she didn't work in the basement (and thus didn't even have pass privileges), her presence there might have attracted attention, making her, in my view at least, a less than ideal cover-up partner. But we will see.

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    I haven't looked over the new warrants yet, I'm just looking at the comments you have all made about the evidence.

    The blood evidence is compelling, but not proof of guilt. I have to see if the affidavits mention if it was human or fish blood (you guys mentioned fishing gear).

    The screwdriver could be the murder weapon. They said she was killed due to traumatic asphyxiation. I also recall the first warrant mentioned that Ray's boots were missing laces. Perhaps a strangulation device was put together using the laces and the screwdriver to increase the pressure?

    The fact that a number of suspicious items were found in the drain in the autoclave room is even more reason to suspect that the fire alarm was tripped on purpose and served as cover for the crime. Since Ray was seen leaving the building at the time of the alarm, I think that works in his favor.

    I'm going to review the new pages of information and see if anything stands out.

    I will comment on some of the questions brought up in the other thread.

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    I've just quickly read through the new affidavits. A lot of it seems to be repetitive, like multiple copies were scanned, and the wording seems to be similar to what was in the other affidavit released a few weeks ago. Interestingly, there are some parts redacted in this new release that weren't redacted in the first release, and there might be stuff that didn't get redacted in this one that was redacted in the first (maybe a sentence, nothing earth shattering).

    Important things I've gleaned from this new paperwork:

    • The affidavit states two different times for when Annie entered 10 Amistad. At the beginning, it says she was seen entering around 8:59am, but later it says she was seen on camera at 10:09am


    • VERY INTERESTING: Annie's notebook, which she carries with her at all times, was never found. Whatever data she kept in that notebook was probably important to her research. And that's why I've wondered if her death was professional jealousy in nature, as opposed to spontaneous work-related rage.


    • Ray's boots and scrubs are easily accessible in the lab. They're clearly marked, so anyone could have taken them and put blood evidence on them. If they were under lock and key, and they still had blood on them, it would be harder to argue evidence tampering.


    • ALSO INTERESTING: Early in the affidavit, it states that Annie's shoes were located in her office when they searched it and found her other items (purse, cellphone, etc...). The white sweater that someone said they saw her wearing that morning wasn't mentioned. But the shoes are important, because they said her body didn't have shoes.


    • It's mentioned that the insulation wasn't removed from the chase, as it sounded from the earlier affidavit release. Instead, the body was placed inside, and the insulation was placed over top to conceal the body.


    This release unfortunately didn't give more detail into the card swipes that I was looking for. I guess those will have to wait until the trial.

    The part about the email address in his locker isn't unusual. The failed to mention if email addresses of other researchers were also in his locker. If he's the animal tech, he needs to be able to reach Annie or the other PhD researchers.

    The blood like stains at the apartment could be anything from cut fish to cut meat. If Ray had completely changed his clothing from the time he allegedly murdered Annie to when he left, he would have also showered, so how could blood stains (from dried blood?) show up at his house. Not possible, unless he brought a beaker full of her blood there and poured it, or brought her body back there.

    Ray had access to a car. If he committed the murder, he could have stuck all of the bloodied clothing into a bag, then driven it all off far away and dumped it. There's no reason to have left it lying around the lab like a scavenger hunt for two days until the police arrived.

    It's strange they said they were looking for her necklace later in the affidavit, even though the earlier release said they found it on her body, and the beads in various rooms. Do they mean the string is missing?

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    It's interesting that plumbing problems were first noticed by a maintenance man on Sept. 11 but plumbers and police weren't dispatched until Sept. 20. That reinforces my feeling that the crime scene isn't necessarily always a beehive of activity. Those type of objects (screw drivers, plastic tubes, scrubs, etc.) could've caused serious blockages and therefore fairly immediate overflows of the sinks, etc. that the particular drain pipes serve, if used often. It makes me think RC may have indeed been able to move around, even with blood-stained clothing, Annie's body, etc., without being witnessed. It also makes me think whoever placed those objects in the pipes isn't a property owner, for surely anyone who owns a house would know the havoc that stuffing such objects into drains could quickly cause, and that they'd be discovered by any plumber dispatched to deal with it.

    It's also interesting that apparel in ladies' sizes (shoes, scrubs) were removed from RC's residence. This may be simply in order to distinguish/eliminate the fiancee's DNA while examining evidence, like the blood seen on their kitchen floor. But the apparently-recent request for her DNA makes me wonder more, like others already have, if she's somehow complicit in the crime.

    Like Shlock, I wonder if RC had other email addresses in his locker. If not, it seems significant that he had only Annie's.

    I also wonder if it was routine for RC to ride home with the other woman, who I'm only guessing at this point is his sister since she also works at Amistad. If it's not routine, it may be significant that his sister (or whoever it was) drove him home on the fateful day.

    I have to remind myself when reading about this crime that mention of blood evidence on shoes, clothing, floors, etc. and other items doesn't necessarily mean LOTS of blood in each and every instance. It may sometimes be little, barely-noticeable smears, drops or spatters here and there that only a person looking closely would notice. As it is, I have a tendency to imagine more blood than may be the actual case because the word blood itself conjures up graphic images in my mind. I'm only mentioning this because someone like Shlock (!) may opine that the real killer would surely cover his tracks better and not be stupid enough to, for example, leave a bloody white athletic shoe in the backseat of his own car.

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    I'm a bit confused about statements in the search warrant affidavits regarding elusive objects like Annie's notebook, the black and white jacket RC wore when entering the bldg. on the fateful day, etc. Mentioned among those items are PCs and laptops. Does this mean they can't find computers to which RC had access? Or is the list of items presumptive and in fact some have been obtained while others are still missing?

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