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    KS - Patricia Kimmi, 58, Horton, 6 Nov 2009 - #2

    Continue discussion from [ame=http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=91299] Thread 1 [/ame] here. Thanks!

    Important information:

    LE needs info on "camouflaged ball cap that is embroidered with "Saylor Insurance, Inc., Sabetha" and a 1922 silver dollar money clip.

    They also identified a possible vehicle of interest. It's a late 90s to early 2000s model, large, dark- or red-colored dual-wheeled pickup, maybe a Dodge."
    ( http://www.wibw.com/crime/headlines/70002692.html )


    helpful links:


    pictures of cap & money clip found during search



    AMW web exclusive


    LostNMissing blog post for Pat


    Website for Pat -- by local highschool students


    Anyone with information is asked to call the Atchison County Sheriff's Office at 913-367-4323 or Topeka Crime Stoppers at 785-234-0007
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    I'm hoping the police get some leads out of the hat and money clip. Both seem very unique.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texas Mist View Post
    Continue discussion from Thread 1 here. Thanks!

    Important information:

    LE needs info on "camouflaged ball cap that is embroidered with "Saylor Insurance, Inc., Sabetha" and a 1922 silver dollar money clip.

    They also identified a possible vehicle of interest. It's a late 90s to early 2000s model, large, dark- or red-colored dual-wheeled pickup, maybe a Dodge."
    ( http://www.wibw.com/crime/headlines/70002692.html )


    helpful links:


    pictures of cap & money clip found during search



    AMW web exclusive


    LostNMissing blog post for Pat


    Website for Pat -- by local highschool students


    Anyone with information is asked to call the Atchison County Sheriff's Office at 913-367-4323 or Topeka Crime Stoppers at 785-234-0007
    Thank you so much for posting all those links.
    Tony/Michele, Lonnie/Rita, Gene/Angie, David/Lori
    "Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see." Hebrews 11:1
    "When calamity comes, the wicked are brought down, but even in death the righteous have a refuge." Proverbs 14:32

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    Thank you Texas Mist and Amanda for the links and pictures. Not sure about the ball cap, but that money clip is very unique. Surely someone from the area recognizes it!

    Rita - do you know if LE has checked with the Saylor Insurance Co. to determine how many of those hats they had made and gave away? I would assume they were given to their clients - what are the chances someone outside of Sabetha got one? Maybe they were used as promotional gifts at specific events - fairs, craft shows, etc.

    Sabetha is less than 40 minutes from Horton, yes? Any idea how large the Saylor Insurance Co is? Are they local to the immediate area only? I hate to assume anything, but if they offer auto insurance, I would hope they've checked their records for any red duallys!

    Sorry for all the questions. Maybe LE doesn't want to reveal this info at this point.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fairy1 View Post
    Thank you Texas Mist and Amanda for the links and pictures. Not sure about the ball cap, but that money clip is very unique. Surely someone from the area recognizes it!

    Rita - do you know if LE has checked with the Saylor Insurance Co. to determine how many of those hats they had made and gave away? I would assume they were given to their clients - what are the chances someone outside of Sabetha got one? Maybe they were used as promotional gifts at specific events - fairs, craft shows, etc.

    Sabetha is less than 40 minutes from Horton, yes? Any idea how large the Saylor Insurance Co is? Are they local to the immediate area only? I hate to assume anything, but if they offer auto insurance, I would hope they've checked their records for any red duallys!

    Sorry for all the questions. Maybe LE doesn't want to reveal this info at this point.....
    They have checked into some of that information...

    A day of disappointment. After have some hope over a lead and many hours invested by LE, the lead ended up being nothing. I'm sure to LE a month is not that long of a time spent in investigation but I never dreamed we would not have found her by now.

    Some hope though - I heard from Tim Miller from Texas Equusearch tonight. I've seen him on tv searching for different people - I never could have imagined someday we would be asking for his help. He seems like a wonderful person and I hope and pray that everything will work out for them to help us search. How fitting for Mom that not only have we had local friends and neighbors on horseback searching for her, but now also a national mounted search & rescue group. Thank you God, Thank you God, Thank you God.
    Tony/Michele, Lonnie/Rita, Gene/Angie, David/Lori
    "Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see." Hebrews 11:1
    "When calamity comes, the wicked are brought down, but even in death the righteous have a refuge." Proverbs 14:32

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    Good news about TES.
    I am so sorry for all the pain you and your family and Pat's friends are going through.
    Hoping for answers soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eyestowardHeaven View Post
    They have checked into some of that information...

    A day of disappointment. After have some hope over a lead and many hours invested by LE, the lead ended up being nothing. I'm sure to LE a month is not that long of a time spent in investigation but I never dreamed we would not have found her by now.

    Some hope though - I heard from Tim Miller from Texas Equusearch tonight. I've seen him on tv searching for different people - I never could have imagined someday we would be asking for his help. He seems like a wonderful person and I hope and pray that everything will work out for them to help us search. How fitting for Mom that not only have we had local friends and neighbors on horseback searching for her, but now also a national mounted search & rescue group. Thank you God, Thank you God, Thank you God.
    Sorry the lead did not pan out. Disappointing, I know.
    But good news about TES coming to help.
    Do you know for sure when they will be there?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dreamweaver View Post
    Sorry the lead did not pan out. Disappointing, I know.
    But good news about TES coming to help.
    Do you know for sure when they will be there?
    Tim Miller said that different people will be finishing up in different states in a couple of days, so hopefully soon. I am still so amazed and grateful that they can help us.

    The kids and I are headed out today to post fliers. Hoping today is the day.

    Thank you again for all the thoughts and prayers.
    Tony/Michele, Lonnie/Rita, Gene/Angie, David/Lori
    "Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see." Hebrews 11:1
    "When calamity comes, the wicked are brought down, but even in death the righteous have a refuge." Proverbs 14:32

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    Rita, we are all still praying mightily for you and your family, and for your mom. There are times I know that you feel helpless and alone....remember that we are with you.
    Dee


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    Wonderful about TES. Pat had many friends here in Texas and I'm so proud that this organization from Texas can be of some help to you all. Will be praying for it to be successful.

    Pam

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    Per TES website, they are doing at least one search in OK for Gary Arrington.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whiskey Horse View Post
    Wonderful about TES. Pat had many friends here in Texas and I'm so proud that this organization from Texas can be of some help to you all. Will be praying for it to be successful.

    Pam
    I just knew all of you guys would appreciate this - it's perfect that we'll have even more people on horseback searching for her.

    Today I watched from her back doors as my brothers and husband took down the shed and fencing and loaded up Skittles her donkey to move to Tony & Michele's house. Now every precious soul who lived there and made it a home is gone. Lord in Heaven, how can this be happening.
    Tony/Michele, Lonnie/Rita, Gene/Angie, David/Lori
    "Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see." Hebrews 11:1
    "When calamity comes, the wicked are brought down, but even in death the righteous have a refuge." Proverbs 14:32

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    Quote Originally Posted by eyestowardHeaven View Post
    They have checked into some of that information...

    A day of disappointment. After have some hope over a lead and many hours invested by LE, the lead ended up being nothing. I'm sure to LE a month is not that long of a time spent in investigation but I never dreamed we would not have found her by now.

    Some hope though - I heard from Tim Miller from Texas Equusearch tonight. I've seen him on tv searching for different people - I never could have imagined someday we would be asking for his help. He seems like a wonderful person and I hope and pray that everything will work out for them to help us search. How fitting for Mom that not only have we had local friends and neighbors on horseback searching for her, but now also a national mounted search & rescue group. Thank you God, Thank you God, Thank you God.
    I am just now catching up on this thread... but Rita.... yes TIM MILLER IS WONDERFUL! Keep talking to him and get him involved in your mother's case! He can HELP YOU!

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    [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4527391&postcount=316"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Forensic Astrology - CASE BRIEFINGS only[/ame]

    the above is the most recent forensic astrology posting by Tuba. I have been following them all closely.


    Rita, per the FA posts... was your mom in any sort of argument/disagreement prior to her vanishing that you know about? Even if it seems small and insignificant it may not be.

    Also, in looking at the fornsic astrology threads realestate/land/money could have been factored into this. Was there any sort of issue in this arena? Was the family home sold after the divorce before she moved a year ago? Who sold her the current home/land? Was there land left in the family that was left to be divided up or argued about? If so, did you have any lease farmers of the sort who had bids on the land and didn't get their way?

    I can see the astro point of view that someone saw her driving thru town that night and followed her home all of a sudden like. Was anyone looking to rent land from her? Anyone who wanted something from her/wanted her to sell them something, etc? Like a last desperate talk to get something from her? Just thoughts.

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