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    PG Court case and other findings

    While they are investigating this SOB we will be getting new updates from time to time.
    I though we can keep it all here.

    Bee sues for records of Garrido's parole supervision
    The Bee sued the state corrections department today along with two other news media, seeking to force the release of documents outlining how parole agents supervised accused kidnapper Phillip Garrido over the course of 10 years during which he allegedly held Jaycee Lee Dugard as his prisoner.

    The suit, filed in Sacramento Superior Court this afternoon, is the latest effort by the newspaper to gain access to the documents, which corrections officials have refused to release since August.

    <SNIP>>>>>>more at link
    http://www.fresnobee.com/1148/story/1736266.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by songline View Post
    While they are investigating this SOB we will be getting new updates from time to time.
    I though we can keep it all here.

    Bee sues for records of Garrido's parole supervision
    The Bee sued the state corrections department today along with two other news media, seeking to force the release of documents outlining how parole agents supervised accused kidnapper Phillip Garrido over the course of 10 years during which he allegedly held Jaycee Lee Dugard as his prisoner.

    The suit, filed in Sacramento Superior Court this afternoon, is the latest effort by the newspaper to gain access to the documents, which corrections officials have refused to release since August.

    <SNIP>>>>>>more at link
    http://www.fresnobee.com/1148/story/1736266.html

    <snip>

    KCRA-TV (Channel 3) and the San Francisco Chronicle joined The Bee in the suit against the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation and the California Inspector General's office.

    Thanks Songline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SunnieRN View Post
    <snip>

    KCRA-TV (Channel 3) and the San Francisco Chronicle joined The Bee in the suit against the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation and the California Inspector General's office.

    Thanks Songline.
    glad someone's forcing the isssue

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    Take Action

    Someone should send all this to the media's attention and who ever did the report which was recently released. I'd include the State's Attorney's Victim Policy maker and the Gov.

    This needs looking into.

    The FBI has different Task Forces which investigate at a Federal level. Cover all your bases. Write one letter and get it out there.

    www.stopfamilyviolence.org has a good tool for reaching all media and officials.

    In my blog here on websleuths I have a very good tool called an evidentiary timeline. It's very helpful for pulling information together.

    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/blog.php?u=6721
    Last edited by ChaCha; 12-06-2009 at 08:27 AM. Reason: added info
    *My comments are only my opinion, not fact. It is my commentary on the topic, and I'm exercising my 1st Amendment rights as a US citizen. Comments are NOT made with any malicious intent.

    I agree with what John Douglas said in his book Law and Disorder:

    "Our 1st allegiance must always be to justice. Justice is often uncomfortable, but that doesn't mean we should turn our heads away. Justice is truth in action. Whatever it means and wherever it takes us. Justice is not a political game, it is a search for truth."

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    Thanks Cha Cha will review later and follow up.

    Sunnie RN this is in your area lets discuss....
    To everyone else - there is power in numbers......
    Last edited by songline; 12-06-2009 at 10:28 AM.
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    THIS IS NOT NEWS - it is an october NE article
    I just never saw it before.

    JAYCEE KIDNAPPER CONFESSED TO MURDER -- SAYS FRIEND

    http://www.nationalenquirer.com/garr...rd/crime/63512
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    This does not surprise me. I hope this SOB will at some point tell the victims families what he did with their bodies so they can finally get closure.

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    Or the friend could just have been making it up.

    Or PG could just have been making a joke in bad taste.

    It isn't evidence of anything. Everytime someone comes along with something like this, the police have to investigate it, even if it is nonsense.

    I wish these people would come along with some real evidence, or some observation that can at least be corroborated for a change, instead of all this bogus "I thought I saw a chipmunk at 500 yards ten years ago" junk. That would be nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Natal View Post
    Or the friend could just have been making it up.

    Or PG could just have been making a joke in bad taste.

    It isn't evidence of anything. Everytime someone comes along with something like this, the police have to investigate it, even if it is nonsense.

    I wish these people would come along with some real evidence, or some observation that can at least be corroborated for a change, instead of all this bogus "I thought I saw a chipmunk at 500 yards ten years ago" junk. That would be nice.
    I would not take anything lightly from that clan of losers. you are welcome to take it all lightly.
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    Who’s Sick Phillip Garrido Or Us?

    snip>>>>>>>>>>>>more at link.

    The FBI, Police and Parole Services have all failed Jaycee Lee Dugard and her family in the most miserable fashion over 18 terrible years. We mustn’t allow it to continue a day longer.

    So I ask you who’s sick? Phillip Garrido for standing jointly accused of 29 felony charges, for writing this letter, or for us letting him?

    Do our civil rights count for anything? What about the rights of Jaycee Lee Dugard and her tragic family? What about the victim’s rights? What about our rights to protection from beasts like Garrido?

    http://pustakanilna.com/blog/who%E2%...-garrido-or-us
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    Quote Originally Posted by songline View Post
    Who’s Sick Phillip Garrido Or Us?

    snip>>>>>>>>>>>>more at link.

    The FBI, Police and Parole Services have all failed Jaycee Lee Dugard and her family in the most miserable fashion over 18 terrible years. We mustn’t allow it to continue a day longer.

    So I ask you who’s sick? Phillip Garrido for standing jointly accused of 29 felony charges, for writing this letter, or for us letting him?

    Do our civil rights count for anything? What about the rights of Jaycee Lee Dugard and her tragic family? What about the victim’s rights? What about our rights to protection from beasts like Garrido?

    http://pustakanilna.com/blog/who%E2%...p-garrid-or-us
    this was an excellent article.
    out of the 3 letters he's sent that the contents have been released, the one to his mother was pathetic, the one apologizing to "every human being" was comical.
    but this one was disgusting, infuriating, sickening. the gall he had to say the authorities abused jaycee's rights. the guy that had been abusing her and her rights for nearly 2 decades. i hope he realizes now that she wont be coming to his rescue......that she wont be telling everyone that 'heartwarming story'. i hope he has the same despair and hopelessness he made jaycee feel for so long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kbl8201 View Post
    this was an excellent article.
    out of the 3 letters he's sent that the contents have been released, the one to his mother was pathetic, the one apologizing to "every human being" was comical.
    but this one was disgusting, infuriating, sickening. the gall he had to say the authorities abused jaycee's rights. the guy that had been abusing her and her rights for nearly 2 decades. i hope he realizes now that she wont be coming to his rescue......that she wont be telling everyone that 'heartwarming story'. i hope he has the same despair and hopelessness he made jaycee feel for so long.
    LOL he is just trying hard to work his magic and it is all gone. His gig is up.
    What is really insane is that an SOB like him who is a danger to society has "F" ing rights.
    IMO his letters should just go into a file for a shrink to read but end there.
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    What you arguing for is called censorship. The issue as you see it is the contents of the letters being made public, and thereby indirectly being made available to the victim through the media. However, you can't stop him from communicating with people, and a letter is no different from "inside sources" we hear from so frequently. So what is to be done?

    To achieve your goal what you should be pushing for is state control of media content, with laws allowing governments at various levels to filter or otherwise prevent the publication of information they deem to be not to be in the public's best interests. Sort of what they had in Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union.

    Which is a little ironic since the first post in this thread is about a lawsuit concerning the public's right to know.

    I think if Jaycee and/or her family don't want to know about the Garrido's ongoing soap opera, all they have to do is not read those articles or switch channels when it pops up on TV. I don't think it is necessary to overturn the constitution.

    Btw, Jaycee lived with those people for 18 years, I doubt she would be surprised or shocked by anything they might say. It is more likely to have an impact on those around her, or the public at large, than her or the two girls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Natal View Post
    What you arguing for is called censorship. The issue as you see it is the contents of the letters being made public, and thereby indirectly being made available to the victim through the media. However, you can't stop him from communicating with people, and a letter is no different from "inside sources" we hear from so frequently. So what is to be done?

    To achieve your goal what you should be pushing for is state control of media content, with laws allowing governments at various levels to filter or otherwise prevent the publication of information they deem to be not to be in the public's best interests. Sort of what they had in Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union.

    Which is a little ironic since the first post in this thread is about a lawsuit concerning the public's right to know.

    I think if Jaycee and/or her family don't want to know about the Garrido's ongoing soap opera, all they have to do is not read those articles or switch channels when it pops up on TV. I don't think it is necessary to overturn the constitution.

    Btw, Jaycee lived with those people for 18 years, I doubt she would be surprised or shocked by anything they might say. It is more likely to have an impact on those around her, or the public at large, than her or the two girls.
    There is a rather huge difference between public awareness and giving the public more information, about what more is being done to curb animals like Garrido, what more is being done to find other girls, and allowing jailed animals like him total freedom that we on the onside have. He is on the inside for a reason.
    JMHO
    He had been known to use words to get away with much. He had been known to use lies to be on the outside harming people, instead of being locked up like the animal that he is. He had been known to use words to control, manipulate, and brain wash....Words can be and are triggers. HIS WORDS should be censored, HIS WORDS should be considered dangerous, HIS WORDS can cause for JC to have a relapse, HIS WORDS should not be made public.
    JMHO

    I do realize that even animals have a right to fair trial. None of which needs to be broad casted.
    Natal we have not agreed from the very beginning of this case.
    I do not understand how anyone can be anything but incensed by those two animals (N&PG)
    Last edited by songline; 12-27-2009 at 09:25 PM.
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    We don't know what words or phrases that PG used to brainwashed or control the girls so allowing his letters to be published is irresponsible because Jaycee has to be made aware of everything PG says (legal reasons) which could easily lead to a major setback in her/their recovery. An innocent sounding letter may very well contain hidden messages that could scare or intimidate the girls...

    PG ADMITTED to kidnapping and raping Jaycee (an 11 year old child) during his interview with LE and also in his radio interview the day he finally got caught, so I don't understand how someone could sympathize or defend these monsters who deserve to be put down!
    Last edited by FlaJohn; 12-27-2009 at 05:44 PM.

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