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    FL - Desjay Mosley, 3, dies after finding loaded gun, Homestead, 5 Dec 2009

    HOMESTEAD (CBS4) ―One day after a 3-year-old girl accidentally shot and killed herself inside a Homestead house, the child's family members are grieving the senseless loss.

    The accident happened inside David Coley's home. He didn't answer the door Sunday. His mother told CBS4 News over the phone he is too sad to talk and wants to put the incident behind him.

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    http://cbs4.com/local/gun.shooting.child.2.1353432.html

    Such a senseless tragedy.

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    Too bad he didn't think to empty the weapon before stashing it under the loveseat cushion.
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    God bless this family.
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    I think he should be charged with something because who leaves a loaded gun within reach of a small child?

    I have all of my late husband's rifles, shotguns, and handguns unloaded and locked up in a gun cabinet. I have two handguns myself. One is loaded and one is not. There are no children in my home and when one of my grandchildren visit, the loaded gun is not within reach. That is responsible gun ownership.

    What this guy did was negligent and was an accident just waiting to happen, IMO. A small child lost her life because of her Dad's negligence. And what was he so scared of that he had to have a loaded weapon under the cushion in the loveseat????

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaLaw2000 View Post
    I think he should be charged with something because who leaves a loaded gun within reach of a small child?

    I have all of my late husband's rifles, shotguns, and handguns unloaded and locked up in a gun cabinet. I have two handguns myself. One is loaded and one is not. There are no children in my home and when one of my grandchildren visit, the loaded gun is not within reach. That is responsible gun ownership.

    What this guy did was negligent and was an accident just waiting to happen, IMO. A small child lost her life because of her Dad's negligence. And what was he so scared of that he had to have a loaded weapon under the cushion in the loveseat????

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    I guess I read a different story. I was under the impression that the man lived alone and removed the gun from his car because his daughter was borrowing the car. He stashed it under a loveseat cushion and forgot about it. Days later, his granddaughter was visiting and she found it. It truly does sound like an tragic accident.
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    Blessing to this family--- how very sad to read this...


    Why didn't he unload the weapon to prevent this type of tragedy? It says he forgot the gun was there. Even so, a weapon should always be unloaded right way to prevent an incident just like this one....

    I wonder if there will be charges in the future?


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    http://www.saf.org/LawReviews/White1.html

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    In 1989 Florida became the first state to pass a statute imposing criminal liability for the negligent storing of a firearm.[176] The statute was the result of public outrage at the accidental shootings of several children in a short period of time.[177] The legislature considered the need for this law so urgent that it held a special session to pass the law.[178] Soon thereafter California followed with a similar statute in an effort to decrease the number of accidents involving children and guns.[179] Endquote

    There is a lot of information at this site. I have not checked Shepards for updates or changes in the law.

    I live in Florida, we have many guns. The first thing we do when we know my grandson will be here is put them in the safe. There is no excuse. If you own a gun you are responsible for it, imo.

    To my knowledge the possible charge at this time is only a misdemeanor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsntslp View Post
    I live in Florida, we have many guns. The first thing we do when we know my grandson will be here is put them in the safe. There is no excuse. If you own a gun you are responsible for it, imo.

    To my knowledge the possible charge at this time is only a misdemeanor.
    Agreed / same in California.

    I've had handguns and rifles since before my childrem were born. IMO, THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR A CHILD FINDING A GUN, LOADED OR NOT.

    Enough said.

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    It is a second degree Mis-D re: improper storage of a firearm

    http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/...20174#0790.174

    FL SS 790.174 (2)
    (2) It is a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083, if a person violates subsection (1) by failing to store or leave a firearm in the required manner and as a result thereof a minor gains access to the firearm, without the lawful permission of the minor's parent or the person having charge of the minor, and possesses or exhibits it, without the supervision required by law: endquote
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsntslp View Post
    It is a second degree Mis-D re: improper storage of a firearm

    http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/...20174#0790.174

    FL SS 790.174 (2)
    (2) It is a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083, if a person violates subsection (1) by failing to store or leave a firearm in the required manner and as a result thereof a minor gains access to the firearm, without the lawful permission of the minor's parent or the person having charge of the minor, and possesses or exhibits it, without the supervision required by law: endquote
    Here in CA, I seem to recall a homicide trial in a case like this one? They said the misdemeanor would be for simple access (not resulting in death) by a minor. But when death is involved, the misdemeanor gets bumped up? It might have been when one child killed another (friend) child? Sorry, I just can not remember the details.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sniperacer View Post
    Here in CA, I seem to recall a homicide trial in a case like this one? They said the misdemeanor would be for simple access (not resulting in death) by a minor. But when death is involved, the misdemeanor gets bumped up? It might have been when one child killed another (friend) child? Sorry, I just can not remember the details.
    Ah, yes. My apologies for the incorrect statute. Thank you for bringing that to my attention, truly.

    3rd degree felony.

    http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/...0784/Sec05.HTM

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    784.05 Culpable negligence.--

    (1) Whoever, through culpable negligence, exposes another person to personal injury commits a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.

    (2) Whoever, through culpable negligence, inflicts actual personal injury on another commits a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.

    (3) Whoever violates subsection (1) by storing or leaving a loaded firearm within the reach or easy access of a minor commits, if the minor obtains the firearm and uses it to inflict injury or death upon himself or herself or any other person, a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084. However, this subsection does not apply:

    (a) If the firearm was stored or left in a securely locked box or container or in a location which a reasonable person would have believed to be secure, or was securely locked with a trigger lock;

    (b) If the minor obtains the firearm as a result of an unlawful entry by any person;

    (c) To injuries resulting from target or sport shooting accidents or hunting accidents; or

    (d) To members of the Armed Forces, National Guard, or State Militia, or to police or other law enforcement officers, with respect to firearm possession by a minor which occurs during or incidental to the performance of their official duties.

    When any minor child is accidentally shot by another family member, no arrest shall be made pursuant to this subsection prior to 7 days after the date of the shooting. With respect to any parent or guardian of any deceased minor, the investigating officers shall file all findings and evidence with the state attorney's office with respect to violations of this subsection. The state attorney shall evaluate such evidence and shall take such action as he or she deems appropriate under the circumstances and may file an information against the appropriate parties.

    1(4) As used in this act, the term "minor" means any person under the age of 16.

    History.--s. 1, ch. 5212, 1903; GS 3229; RGS 5062; CGL 7164; s. 733, ch. 71-136; s. 21, ch. 74-383; s. 11, ch. 75-298; ss. 3, 7, ch. 89-534; s. 1199, ch. 97-102.

    1Note.--Also published at s. 790.174(3).
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    Quote Originally Posted by daisy7 View Post
    HOMESTEAD (CBS4) ―One day after a 3-year-old girl accidentally shot and killed herself inside a Homestead house, the child's family members are grieving the senseless loss.

    The accident happened inside David Coley's home. He didn't answer the door Sunday. His mother told CBS4 News over the phone he is too sad to talk and wants to put the incident behind him.

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    http://cbs4.com/local/gun.shooting.child.2.1353432.html

    Such a senseless tragedy.
    The statement that he "wants to put the incident behind him" this early in the process really gets under my skin.

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    Horribly sad. This makes me sick to my stomach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dsntslp View Post
    The statement that he "wants to put the incident behind him" this early in the process really gets under my skin.
    I agree. That stood out to me too. However, she could have just misspoken without realizing how heartless it sounds.

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