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    Quote Originally Posted by sorrell skye View Post
    Chicken Pants - you asked the question earlier if anyone would notice a male tossing a garbage bag into a dumpster. I'll take that question one step further - would anyone notice anyone putting something in the garbage the evening before trash pick up day?

    Especially at that time of day when so many people are rushing to get home from work to make dinner & do all the other things that need to be done at the end of the day - and probably feeling tired on top of it all after being at work all day.

    IMO, the person could have put her in the trash in full view of the public and might have still gone unnoticed. People tend to see what they expect to see, and only notice what they choose to pay attention to, and if their minds are on other things, might not see anything at all because they're so distracted by their own thoughts and busy lives.
    I have a friend who told me once if you want to do something wrong, act like it is perfectly normal and no one will notice. In case you are wondering, there were some sweet rolls at a meeting that we were not a part of, and we wanted one. She had noticed that people get away with things if they act totally confident. Just act if you belong and it's perfectly normal.

    But did they have a bag in their vehicle? If it is PC, would DT cover for him?


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    Quote Originally Posted by ChickenPants View Post
    Please bear with me as I figure out how to respond to specific posts like you all do here.

    I was asked if I am a nurse. No. I have worked in healthcare for 30 years and have had the privilege of being asked to stay at the side of many dying people. I have kept vigil until the end, and then afterwards. So I have also been with people at these, and other times of horrendous grief, at the time and afterward. I work in an administrative capacity but am very personally involved on a day to day basis. Because of this, I see human nature at its worst and often at its best. It is true that people grieve differently. I must add that there are certain trends in behaviors of people that give rise to the sincerity of their actions. The operative word is: trend.

    Now if someone could give me a respond-to-your-post-only tutorial, I would be grateful. You all do G R E A T W O R K H E R E.
    I'm just wondering about this because the bowels relax at death. Don't people ,when they are close to death, have some kind of medical thing attached to their bodily functions?

    I'm asking because I don't know. I am so not into medical stuff. Not my thing at all.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ChickenPants View Post
    Please bear with me as I figure out how to respond to specific posts like you all do here.

    I was asked if I am a nurse. No. I have worked in healthcare for 30 years and have had the privilege of being asked to stay at the side of many dying people. I have kept vigil until the end, and then afterwards. So I have also been with people at these, and other times of horrendous grief, at the time and afterward. I work in an administrative capacity but am very personally involved on a day to day basis. Because of this, I see human nature at its worst and often at its best. It is true that people grieve differently. I must add that there are certain trends in behaviors of people that give rise to the sincerity of their actions. The operative word is: trend.

    Now if someone could give me a respond-to-your-post-only tutorial, I would be grateful. You all do G R E A T W O R K H E R E.

    Just use the quote on the bottom of the post you are responding to. It's right next to thanks.


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    Hi again, I hit multi-post this time trying to respond to sorrell (lol)

    My point exactly. It is a normal day, people go in and out with trash bags all of the time...especially the day before pick-up. Let's say you are a crossing guard (watching the kids who are being KIDS - TOUGH JOB) or a parent (watching your own kid) and there are people and cars and noise, etc...you are not focusing on the side of the road looking to see if perhaps a man you don't recall seeing is heaving a trash bag near the empty house people have been working on. After I posted that, I realized she was not found in a trash bag, but perp could have picked up the bag and slid her into the dumpster...the problem is, how is it nobody saw a body in the dumpster? But then when we toss bags in, we don't stand on our heads and look to see if there is a body there.

    TOtally inocuous day, no reason for anyone to suspect anything or anyone in this quiet little neighborhood where the "....neighbors were on the look out for DT's kids". (Where did I see that?)

    How long would it take a strong person to suffocate, wrench the neck, or bash in the head of a 3 ft. little girl, slide her in a garbage bag, put it with other garbage bags, or leave it in the pile and slide her out later into the dumpster - but that part does not make sense, does it? Did LE check out the Gano house that first night - I am sorry if I can't remember. It just seems that the time and opportunity were there at that Gano house - where she could have been dragged through various kinds of construction materials before being disposed of.... and that it was a person she went willingly to, raising no suspicion.

    The fact that LE ruled out all of the RSO's so quickly I feel was a signal to someone who killed Somer that LE was onto family/friends/intimate acquaintenances. Ruling out the RSO's, IMO was the ONLY piece of "real" news LE has ever let out in public. Thanks for bearing with my opinions.


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    Quote Originally Posted by what about this? View Post
    Maybe Somer wasn't feeling well that day because of an explosive argument had taken place in her home the night before. Diena could have felt okay about letting Somer go to school that day knowing that she probably wasn't really sick.

    I was in an abusive relationship many years ago. When 4mer told us what she did earlier, all of a sudden the "lunch" with SP made sense - she was letting him in, not knowing what was going to happen with CPC.

    Walking out of her office but not letting anyone know that something was wrong makes sense also, because of not wanting anyone there to know something was wrong with her home life (verbal abuse, etc.).

    Calling CPC to "help look" makes no sense, but calling him to see where he was and what he was doing certainly does. He had plenty of time . . . then CPC shows up and is soooo comforting (as anyone who has been in an abusive relationship knows, and they are so sorry for whatever they did) . . .

    Short drive to Green Cove Springs and back.
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    If it is true she walked out of her office without letting someone know, it must be a very laid back office where no one is accountable to anyone. I've been a medical clerk/receptionist for a very busy office where there was someone either in your face or on the phone for 8 hours a day, never a break. How do you just get up and walk out under circumstances like that without letting your boss know you are leaving? Most times I had to get someone to cover the desk and phone while I took a bathroom break. Maybe they had several receptionist in the office, though, IDK, but we could not just leave without telling someone.

    Also, I would like to know when SP arrived at DT's house. Was he there when she left for work? Did he come there after she got home for lunch? If not, did he have a key to let himself in and be already waiting for her when she got home for lunch? Just something I wonder about.


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    Quote Originally Posted by human View Post
    I have a friend who told me once if you want to do something wrong, act like it is perfectly normal and no one will notice. In case you are wondering, there were some sweet rolls at a meeting that we were not a part of, and we wanted one. She had noticed that people get away with things if they act totally confident. Just act if you belong and it's perfectly normal.

    But did they have a bag in their vehicle? If it is PC, would DT cover for him?
    You're totally right, Human - if a person does whatever it is they're doing with confidence, no one notices. I used to know someone who worked as a department store security guard. It was his job to catch shoplifters. This was back in the day before store cameras & anti-theft devices were on everything. He told me he just paid attention to body language. Makes me wonder how many confident shoplifters got away with it! LOL!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChickenPants View Post
    Please bear with me as I figure out how to respond to specific posts like you all do here.

    I was asked if I am a nurse. No. I have worked in healthcare for 30 years and have had the privilege of being asked to stay at the side of many dying people. I have kept vigil until the end, and then afterwards. So I have also been with people at these, and other times of horrendous grief, at the time and afterward. I work in an administrative capacity but am very personally involved on a day to day basis. Because of this, I see human nature at its worst and often at its best. It is true that people grieve differently. I must add that there are certain trends in behaviors of people that give rise to the sincerity of their actions. The operative word is: trend.

    Now if someone could give me a respond-to-your-post-only tutorial, I would be grateful. You all do G R E A T W O R K H E R E.
    Respond to a specific post by hitting the quote button. The posters post will appear and you type below it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by human View Post
    I have a friend who told me once if you want to do something wrong, act like it is perfectly normal and no one will notice. In case you are wondering, there were some sweet rolls at a meeting that we were not a part of, and we wanted one. She had noticed that people get away with things if they act totally confident. Just act if you belong and it's perfectly normal.

    But did they have a bag in their vehicle? If it is PC, would DT cover for him?

    BBM

    I just cannot comprehend ANY mother doing that. I've never seen a man who is as important or more important to me than my child, never.


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    The bowels and bladder can relax. However, if the person had recently gone to the bathroom, there would be next to nothing there. When elderly persons die over a period of time they gradually break down and are usually dehydrated having ceased those functions a while back. It's my guess Somer went potty at school before coming ... i was going to say home.


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    No mother in her "right mind" would. Sometimes very powerful men use a lot of tactics to gain the trust of and power over women who would never dream of doing anything questionable. Sometimes it is drugs that are involved, or like a previous poster said, it may be threats to the mom and her kids, subtle but believable. Some times a person can't see what is right in front of them because they can't cope with the possibility that a person they want to believe is a liar or worse. True?


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    Quote Originally Posted by New1 View Post
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    I just cannot comprehend ANY mother doing that. I've never seen a man who is as important or more important to me than my child, never.
    Look at Shainya Davis' mom.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ChickenPants View Post
    Hi again, I hit multi-post this time trying to respond to sorrell (lol)

    My point exactly. It is a normal day, people go in and out with trash bags all of the time...especially the day before pick-up. Let's say you are a crossing guard (watching the kids who are being KIDS - TOUGH JOB) or a parent (watching your own kid) and there are people and cars and noise, etc...you are not focusing on the side of the road looking to see if perhaps a man you don't recall seeing is heaving a trash bag near the empty house people have been working on. After I posted that, I realized she was not found in a trash bag, but perp could have picked up the bag and slid her into the dumpster...the problem is, how is it nobody saw a body in the dumpster? But then when we toss bags in, we don't stand on our heads and look to see if there is a body there.

    TOtally inocuous day, no reason for anyone to suspect anything or anyone in this quiet little neighborhood where the "....neighbors were on the look out for DT's kids". (Where did I see that?)

    How long would it take a strong person to suffocate, wrench the neck, or bash in the head of a 3 ft. little girl, slide her in a garbage bag, put it with other garbage bags, or leave it in the pile and slide her out later into the dumpster - but that part does not make sense, does it? Did LE check out the Gano house that first night - I am sorry if I can't remember. It just seems that the time and opportunity were there at that Gano house - where she could have been dragged through various kinds of construction materials before being disposed of.... and that it was a person she went willingly to, raising no suspicion.

    The fact that LE ruled out all of the RSO's so quickly I feel was a signal to someone who killed Somer that LE was onto family/friends/intimate acquaintenances. Ruling out the RSO's, IMO was the ONLY piece of "real" news LE has ever let out in public. Thanks for bearing with my opinions.
    BMM

    She very well could have been in a garbage bag at first. The bag could have come apart being moved into those trucks. IIRC, the Sheriff said she was found partially covered by trash. When I look at the pics of the landfill, I don't see garbage bags intact. They look like they are in pieces to me. I totally agree with you that nobody would think anything of it if they saw someone taking out the trash that night especially in a neighborhood where the trash was being picked up the next day. I wouldn't notice - would you? This is how I have suspected the body was disposed of without anyone noticing it. MOO


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    [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4327591&postcount=246"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Found Deceased FL-Somer Renee Thompson, age 7, missing from Orange Park, thread #4[/ame]

    Ccane posted a link to this post in Thread 29 and commented that she could not find that anybody asked for the photo mentioned.

    I don't think this member has been on since 11/7 but I have asked for the photo.


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    Quote Originally Posted by New1 View Post
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    If it is true she walked out of her office without letting someone know, it must be a very laid back office where no one is accountable to anyone. I've been a medical clerk/receptionist for a very busy office where there was someone either in your face or on the phone for 8 hours a day, never a break. How do you just get up and walk out under circumstances like that without letting your boss know you are leaving? Most times I had to get someone to cover the desk and phone while I took a bathroom break. Maybe they had several receptionist in the office, though, IDK, but we could not just leave without telling someone.

    Also, I would like to know when SP arrived at DT's house. Was he there when she left for work? Did he come there after she got home for lunch? If not, did he have a key to let himself in and be already waiting for her when she got home for lunch? Just something I wonder about.
    What I meant was that to her co-workers, when she left she gave no indication that something terrible had happened. She probably gave them some excuse (I'm just saying here what I would have done, because she doesn't want them to know the abuse taking place), and it was 4 o'clock and she would be off soon anyway. I didn't mean that she just jumped up.

    I can now almost feel the surreal panic setting in, not wanting to let on too much what was going on, and running to the car.

    As far as I know, no one knows for sure when SP arrived at the house, but if she had to drive all the way home from the office (20-minute drive), it wasn't for "lunch" - she was trying to protect her children.

    Of course, we don't know how many times she had had to leave early - we don't know her work history - and we don't know how volatile things were in that household. I just recognized the feelings and actions I would have done then, after what 4mer told us DT had told a mutual friend about 3 months earlier.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pinamia View Post
    Look at Shainya Davis' mom.
    I know, but I don't call that thing a mother. She had no feelings for that child IMO.


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