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  1. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by cecybeans View Post
    BJB - having LA and KC in the garage might help make sense of whatever LA did at AL's. I had always imagined it that way anyway. It was almost like he had instructions on what to get and what to do. The fact LA and KC went in the garage to talk, instead of outside or almost anywhere else, was very odd to me. LA makes such a huge thing about the Pontiac's smell; I can't imagine they would pick that place for a conversation unless they wanted to be avoided. Perhaps they went out there to talk sotto voce but in full sight knowing that if LE wanted them back inside, they probably would wave them in instead of walking right up to the door.

    Perhaps, if this conversation happened first, there were instructions for LA regarding wiping the emails and the fake bsod or whatever. It makes more sense than what LA said they were discussing, IIRC - that conversation could have easily taken place when they were talking earlier in her room.
    Interesting thoughts. Need to check the computer forensics and JWG's 7/15 timeline again. IIRC, there are timestamps on the computer use during the 7/15PM-7/16AM timeframe that should shed add'l light on who was doing what & when.

    My apologies for OT.


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    Bond, if you haven't found it yet, here's Charity Beasley's report, beginning on docstoc page 179, handwritten page 292

    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/4320677/...ments-released

    Also noting Ryan Eberlin's documentation begins on docstoc page 173, handwritten page 286.

    - Dispatched 7/16(?) for stolen vehicle. Spoke to Lee first (Witness 1), Cindy second (Witness 2), George third (Witness 3), then spoke to Casey. Casey completed a sworn written statement.
    - Rendon Fletcher went to Sawgrass.
    - Ryan Williams went to Tony's.
    - Robert Salamat went to 232 North Glenwood.


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  5. #18
    Noting that Jesse says deputies were using & answering KC's phone 7/15-7/16

    http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFile...es%201-150.pdf

    pdf page 43


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    Quote Originally Posted by BeanE View Post
    Yuri's Investigative report

    http://www.wesh.com/download/2008/1126/18155354.pdf

    PDF page 4

    Rendon Fletcher went to Sawgrass July 15 no time given. No mention of KC.

    Ryan Williams met with Tony July 15 no time given. No mention of KC.

    Robert Salamat went to 232 North Glenwood and met with the residents. No date or time given. No mention of KC.
    Quote Originally Posted by BeanE View Post
    Bond, if you haven't found it yet, here's Charity Beasley's report, beginning on docstoc page 179, handwritten page 292

    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/4320677/...ments-released

    Also noting Ryan Eberlin's documentation begins on docstoc page 173, handwritten page 286.

    - Dispatched 7/16(?) for stolen vehicle. Spoke to Lee first (Witness 1), Cindy second (Witness 2), George third (Witness 3), then spoke to Casey. Casey completed a sworn written statement.
    - Rendon Fletcher went to Sawgrass.
    - Ryan Williams went to Tony's.
    - Robert Salamat went to 232 North Glenwood.
    Quote Originally Posted by BeanE View Post
    Noting that Jesse says deputies were using & answering KC's phone 7/15-7/16

    http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFile...es%201-150.pdf

    pdf page 43
    BeanE: You realize you've provided me w/ a week's worth of work here.

    I'm going to see if JBean agrees to break this thread back @ the last update of the timeline into a new thread focused on 7/15-post-911 to 7/16 arrest focused timeline development. I dunno what to call it either, but, before reviewing your links I wouldn't have thought there would be much more we could do with it. There's at least a little more that can be done...or at least documented in a thread to make it easy to find later IYKWIM.

    Noted, for example, relative to the car sealing...if we reviewed George's cell, Cindy's cell & Hopespring home phone records again for 7/16 we should find Yuri's call referenced in Beasley's report (handwritten #293) where he gained approval to obtain the car, etc. That timestamp + travel time will tighten up Beasley's arrival time. Not expecting revelations, but, I'm in agreement w/ your earlier post that we are working to do here is get clarity on the events.

    Also noted that Jesse was quick on the dial. LE w/ Casey's phone called Jeff H. @ 12:05AM 7/16 for only a few seconds. Jesse called Casey's cell and spoke w/ Sgt. Hosey @ 12:06AM for <1min.

    Other rabbit holes I wanna chase down based on reviewing the mat'l again. I can't commit to anything better than a slow burn. But would like to do it if others will help.


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    Bond asked me to move the timeline analysis into its own thread up here and I concur. hate to see this great work lost in other discussion.
    Please alert on any other posts from the sealing of the pontiac thread that you guys want brought up here.
    I took a quick search starting at the post Bond gave me, but there may be more.
    Nice work.
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  11. #21
    First responding Officers/Deputies and Detective on the scene:

    First responding officers/deputies:

    Rendon Fletcher: First on scene
    Adriana Acevedo: 2nd on scene
    Ryan Eberlin: 3rd on scene
    Ryan Williams
    Robert Salamat
    Reggie Hosey

    Adriana Acevedo's report - Page 1
    http://flawebhosting.net/docdump110608/dcf.pdf

    Ryan Eberlin's report
    begins docstoc page 173, handwritten page 286.
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/4320677/...ments-released

    - Dispatched 7/16(?) for stolen vehicle. Spoke to Lee first (Witness 1), Cindy second (Witness 2), George third (Witness 3), then spoke to Casey. Casey completed a sworn written statement.
    - Rendon Fletcher went to Sawgrass.
    - Ryan Williams went to Tony's.
    - Robert Salamat went to 232 North Glenwood.


    First Detective on scene:
    Yuri Melich
    http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFile...es%201-150.pdf
    pdf page 3
    Date/time Yuri notified was 7/15 00:45 12:45am by Reggie Hosey

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=659JE9JrkfI[/ame]
    video of Bond hearing - cross by Baez
    despite questioning by Baez, Yuri doesn't explain the 3 hours from notification to arrival on scene
    Yuri Melich arrived on scene @ 3:30/3:45am on 7/16


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    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/4320677/...ments-released

    Charity Beasley's report
    Sealed & impounded Pontiac
    beginning on docstoc page 179, handwritten page 292

    Lee Anthony handwritten statement pdf page 35
    7/15 22:16 10:16pm Taken by Ryan Eberlin

    George Anthony handwritten statement pdf page 39
    7/15 22:16 10:16pm Taken by Adriana Acevedo

    Casey Anthony handwritten statement pdf page 31
    7/16 01:05 1:05am Taken by Ryan Eberlin

    George Anthony verbal okay to take Pontiac pdf page 41
    7/16 9:30pm signed by Awilda Torres-McBryde

    Jesse Grund handwritten statement pdf page 43
    Jesse got a call from friend Jeff 7/16 00:05 12:05am saying Jeff got a call from a deputy from KC's phone number
    Jesse called KC on her phone and got Reggie Hosey

    Sawgrass Apts Amanda Macklin statement pdf page 60
    Amanda Macklin arrived at Sawgrass for work 7/16 at 8:45am. Yuri talked to her then

    Yuri interview with KC at house pdf page 71
    Recorded interview 7/16 04:11 4:11am
    Yuri read KC's written statement and had a verbal interview with her prior to this recorded interview

    Casey Anthony arrest affidavit pdf page 2
    Filled out 7/16 at 20:09 8:09pm by Yuri Melich
    Date/time of Casey Anthony's arrest 7/16 16:33 4:33pm


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    Movements of LE & KC

    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/4320677/...ments-released

    begin pdf page 3

    KC rode with Yuri and Deputy Sheriff to 'old folks home' Glenwood & Robinson, then Sawgrass, then Crossings at Conway town homes (Zanny's mother's home). Yuri then took KC home to Hopespring.

    Yuri then talked with George who said KC was holding back info and that he and Cindy fear something had happened to Caylee.

    Yuri then met with John Allen, then back to Sawgrass, then Universal

    John Allen and Appie Wells went to Hopespring to get Kc, then to Universal with her

    Yuri took KC to central operations, where KC was arrested, and then taken to the OC jail


    Yuri's Investigative report PDF page 4
    http://www.wesh.com/download/2008/1126/18155354.pdf

    Rendon Fletcher went to Sawgrass July 15 no time given. No mention of KC.

    Ryan Williams met with Tony July 15 no time given. No mention of KC.

    Robert Salamat went to 232 North Glenwood and met with the residents. No date or time given. No mention of KC.


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  17. #24
    KC Alone in the Garage + KC and Lee in the Garage

    Narrative of what happened based on putting the pieces together from Lee's depo:
    Lee goes outside and calls Amy. Meanwhile, KC, after being separated by LE from CA for fighting, goes to the garage. She opens the garage door?? Lee joins KC in the garage and asks her about Jeff and Tony. KC tells Lee her laptop & cell are at Tony's. Lee calls Tony and tells him (not asks) that he's coming to get the laptop & cell.

    The pieces:
    Lee's July 30 State Deposition
    http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21310241/detail.html

    pdf 146/24 - Lee got Amy's phone # from Cindy. Called Amy & got Tony's #. Then went outside to call Tony while LE was "asking Casey whatever questions or doing whatever the heck they were doing in the house". Called Tony before filling out his written statement. Told him he wanted the laptop and cellphone.

    pdf 149/1 During this hour or so from 9 till 10 or 10:15 LE was not with KC the entire time and this is when KC told Lee about the laptop and cellphone.

    pdf 149/9 LE was never with Lee but some were with GA/CA. LE tried to separate KC and CA specifically, and also GA, because CA was yelling at KC. CA would yell things at KC and then they would fight. CA would talk loud so KC would hear it and then KC would have a quick response.

    pdf 150/25 KC, GA, CA were free to move about the house.

    pdf 150/8 Lee doesn't know why KC went to the garage because he was on the phone outside. Lee came in & asked where's KC? 'They' said she's outside. Lee went to the garage for a minute & talked to KC. Asked her about Jeff Hopkins. KC in garage for 5 minutes.

    When Lee went to the garage, the garage door was open.

    151/17 called Tony from outside on Hopespring about a house and a half down from home

    152/7 in garage Lee asked KC about Tony. This is when she told him about her laptop & cell over at Tony's.


    This includes some LE movement/activities:

    Lee's OCSO interview July 29
    http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0923/17540065.pdf

    pdg page 16 The only thing Lee wrote down when talking with KC before LE arrived was Tony's name and address.

    17/11 first responding officer walked in and began questioning KC

    18/19 around midnight went to Tony's

    20/14 when Lee got home, Acevedo was in the living room with CA and GA

    21/19 Lee got back to the house at 2:25am. was gone for two hours.

    22/3 there was a large gathering of officers around a vehicle around the garage when Lee got home from Tony's

    22/18 LE went to get the cell from Tony's at about 11pm. when they returned they started calling all the contacts on KC's cell.

    23/21 Acevedo left the house and came back while GA, CA, LA went through KC's stuff on the floor

    47/18 KC and Lee in the garage

    Here Lee said he was in the garage with KC because LE had separated KC and Cindy. He deviates though and says this is while he was waiting to fill out his statement.

    Couldn't be there for more than a minute or two because the smell was "atrocious".

    Lee asked KC about the smell. Here she tells the two dead squirrel story. Lee doubted her story for several reasons.


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    I have gotten 3 alerts on posts letting me know I did not do a very good job of moving posts over LOL.
    I am really sorry, I tried to do it real quick before work so you all wouldn't have to wait all day.
    The alerts are confusing so i am going to have to wait until I get home tonight to go through the information and figure out what posts go where.
    I just grabbed the obvious posts after the reference point of post 189 that Bond gave me.

    Sorry if I have confused the issue, i truly was only trying to make it available as soon as possible.
    I guess haste truly does make waste.

    I see part of the problem. Bond said 179 and I thought it was 189. will fix when I can
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  21. #26
    My Christmas List:

    Statements, evidence reports, any kind of documents written by deputies/first responding officers:
    Rendon Fletcher
    Ryan Williams
    Robert Salamat
    Reggie Hosey


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    Quote Originally Posted by BeanE View Post
    My Christmas List:

    Statements, evidence reports, any kind of documents written by deputies/first responding officers:
    Rendon Fletcher
    Ryan Williams
    Robert Salamat
    Reggie Hosey
    Pg 2144 Acevedo's narrative report ends, "See original report for further details".

    If this "original report" was released I'm willing to bet you'd know it. Will also ask 'nother friend or two also
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    Interview with Brittany Schieber
    http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0925/17555345.pdf

    Has activities at the house on 7/16

    Nancy Grace interview with Brittany Schieber
    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP.../25/ng.01.html

    More activities at the house 7/16
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  27. #29
    Cindy called co-worker Debbie P evening of 7/15

    no time noted but CA said LE was on the scene and talking with KC

    (CA was screaming and feared Caylee was dead :-( )

    http://www.wftv.com/news/18530380/detail.html
    pdf page 7
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeanE View Post
    Cindy called co-worker Debbie P. evening of 7/15

    no time noted but CA said LE was on the scene and talking with KC

    (CA was screaming and feared Caylee was dead :-( )

    http://www.wftv.com/news/18530380/detail.html
    pdf page 7
    *abbreviated lastname*

    Well, BeanE, I think you just solved a little mystery AZ and I have been noodlin' on

    I haven't looked through the home phone records in awhile, but, we were looking @ Cindy's cell phone and wondering if the following calls were to/from an attorney:

    7/15/2008 10:28 PM (407)***-6434 ORLANDO 2 minutes
    7/15/2008 10:33 PM (407)***-6434 INCOMING 3 minutes

    Dimes to doughnuts these are the calls to & from Debbie. The hysterics would make sense owing to the call being soon after LE's arrival. Hafta check the timing of Cindy's statement, but, IIRC, it was done before these calls.
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