FL - Somer Thompson, 7, Orange Park, 19 Oct 2009 #32

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Facts I, Part 5

Because I was running into issues with surpassing the number of characters in this post, I'm going to divide into Facts I (Somer, Diena, Samuel, Sean, C. Perry) and Facts II (Gano House, Law Enforcement, Other People, Garbage, RSOs, Unrelated) and the Part number will change as we go.

Please do not quote whole post. Bring a correction or addition to my attention with copy/paste.

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SOMER
• Somer Thompson was 7 when she disappeared on October 19.
• Somer was wearing a cranberry jump suit (sweat suit) with a matching top to the bottom and pink satin stripes down the sides of arms and legs, and a black shirt underneath and blue and gray socks and rainbow tennis shoes. (Diena Thompson Addresses the Media)
• Somer and her siblings got ride to school in the morning and walked in the afternoon with 50-70 kids See Diena Thompson Addresses The Media.
• Somer was born April 5, 2002.
• Somer did not wander off according to her mom in video Diena Thompson Addresses The Media.
• Somer routinely wandered around and nobody knew where she was, according to a babysitter.
• Somer had run off unattended. MR said running off unattended wasn't anything new for Somer. R., 17, said she baby-sat Somer and her two siblings for a little more than a month this year. ... She said the 7-year-old is headstrong and often jumped ahead of her brother and sister on the way back from school and made her way back by herself. These trips usually took anywhere from 20 minutes to an hour, and she said Diena Thompson had a list of phone numbers for the parents of Somer's friends in case she was gone for too long.
• Somer wore a red ribbon in her ponytail on October 19.
• Somer was driven to school on October 19 by AB (neighbor), who said it was a normal morning and Somer was her usual self.
• Somer went to school (GPE) and left school at regular time (2:32 p.m.).
• Somer was released from school at 2:50 p.m. Source
• Somer initially started walking with her friend M. “Minutes before she was walking with this little girl. I mean, yea it's definitely sunk in...It gives me goose bumps...thinking it could have been fifty-fifty, I mean, just like that,” said GC.
• Somer caught up with AT and ST (twin) in the 1100 block of Gano. Source
• AT brought up spat with M., and Somer ran ahead to walk alone.
• An AMBER Alert was issued on Tuesday morning. It does not mention the book bag or lunchbox, but mentions her possibly wearing white hat and scarf. JPG of AMBER Alert
• Somer lived with her mom Diena, her twin brother ST, her older sister AT and her older brother AC. See Diena Thompson Addresses The Media.
• Somer's body was found at Chesser Island Landfill in Folkston, GA. She was tentatively identified by her clothing and a birthmark.
• Somer's lunchbox and book bag (see sketches as released by LE and shown on AMW) have not been found. Details first reported on AMW November 7. (Previous reports had not mentioned lunchbox; backpack/book bag was described several ways, now believed to be in error, including but not limited to “black book bag”; “pink black and white backpack with skulls, hearts, and crossbones”; “purple HM backpack”)
• Somer rode her scooter around the neighborhood. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,569515,00.html
• Somer and her siblings AT and ST normally walked home together. Three weeks ago Monday the 7-year-old was walking home from school with her older sister A. and twin brother S. Her mother was at work. And as usual, the children were to walk home together. Friends' parents would keep an eye on them. http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/somer-thom...ory?id=9029804

DIENA THOMPSON
• Diena and Samuel Thompson are estranged and in the process of divorcing.
• Diena has a live-in boyfriend (CPC, who goes by P).
• Diena said she had lunch at her home on October 19 with SAP, a family friend.
• Diena asked SAP to wait until the kids got home from school. (from narrative MPR, but what was he to do after that?)
• Dena texts SAP around 4 p.m., asking how the kids were; SAP replied that Somer had not come home with the other kids.
• Diena leaves work early to search for Somer.
• Diena felt something was wrong this time, and this is why she responded quickly to news of Somer not making it home that day.
• Diena calls her boyfriend, CPC aka Perry, at about 4:20 p.m., tells him Somer didn’t come home, and asks him to leave work to help search for her.
• Diena stops at OPAA to pick up oldest son AC.
• Diena flags down D/S A. Coan at the corner of Floyd Circle West and Gano, and reports Somer missing.
• Diena says that ST (twin) lagged behind to talk to a friend. (watch video that page too)."I know that ST had lagged behind talking to a friend," Diena Thompson told "GMA." "And AT and Somer were together and that -- I'm not sure what happened. Somer got teased a lot. ... She ran ahead, and AT just figured she'd catch up with her. And when she got to the second crossing guard Somer wasn't there.
• Diena and blacked out video. This is the link to the blackout video: ([ame="http://websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4550387&postcount=261"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Found Deceased FL - Somer Renee Thompson, 7, Orange Park, Thread # 29[/ame]) http://www.news4jax.com/video/21402291/Blackout 2:11-2:33 right after DT says: I am searching ... and the … and the … I don't know that it's funny but … .I flagged down an officer as soon as I got off work, and my son was already down there looking and I saw a deputy ‘cause I didn't know what to do, I already had this feeling this isn't just your normal “she went to somebody's house and she's gonna be home – .you know, this was “something’s wrong,” and I flagged him down and we went into the parking lot of OPAA which just..."
• Diena was asked not to view body. http://www.news4jax.com/video/21409125/
• Diena says the kids got a ride in morning and walked in evening (in nice weather). ~ @ 2:21 in Diena Thompson addresses the media http://jacksonville.com/video?bcpid=...id=45725057001
• DT Interview from November 12 DT is asked if authorities have told her yet what Somer's COD is and she says: "NO, I don't know what her cause of death is - I don't know what her date of death is - I don't know if she was sexually assaulted, I know literally nothing pretty much accept that they found my daughter which i am truly grateful for because I couldn't have lived, I don't want to say that but I know it would have crushed me to not have ever found her …" http://www.firstcoastnews.com/video/default.aspx?bctid=51242261001 SPECIAL NOTE: We wanted to offer our viewers this interview without any edits. The video, therefore, is uncut as posted, and so you'll see unsettled camera moves near the end, as the photographer repositions his shot.

SAMUEL THOMPSON
• Samuel lives in North Carolina and has not seen Somer in 2 years.
• Samuel came to FL on the Sunday after Somer's disappearance.
• Samuel says soot was found on Somer’s body in NG interview). (Later, he recants that statement through relative on WS because the source of this information, his sister LH, is thought to be unreliable.)

SEAN A. P. (SAP)
• Source unless otherwise noted is [ame="http://websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4448957&postcount=52"]MPR Narrative[/ame].
• SAP is a close family friend.
• SAP is said to have had lunch with Diena at her house on October 19 (stated by Diena).
• SAP is asked to wait at house until kids come home from school. (not sure what he was to do after they came home).
• SAP had not been asked to do this before. This was his first time.
• SAP asks where Somer is when AT and ST arrived around 3:10 p.m.
• SAP sent AT to look for Somer. When she returned about 15 minutes later without her, SAP told her to look again real good before he called Diena.
• SAP gets text from Diena around 4 p.m. asking how the kids were doing; he texts back that Somer did not come home with the other kids and AT is out looking for her. Diena says she will leave work and come look for Somer.
• SAP changed [ame="http://websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4322213&postcount=153"]details[/ame] on his indigo healing website.

C. PERRY C.
• CPC is Diena's live-in boyfriend.
• CPC gets call about 4:20 p.m. from Diena who tells him Somer didn’t come home; Diena asks him to leave work to help search for her.
• CPC leaves work and drives to the Horton Drive home; arrives at about 5 p.m.
• CPC picks up ST (twin) at the house about 5 p.m. and goes to search for Somer.

SIBLINGS/FAMILY
• AC spoke with a patrolling officer.. http://www.news4jax.com/news/21363554/detail.html I walked around with a patrolling officer, and we told him what happened," A. said.
• MS. Somer’s maternal great grandmother lives in New Richamond, OH. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,569515,00.html

FRIENDS/NEIGHBORS
• AB appeared on TV with Sheriff Beseler. Don't want video to play in this post: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/33427923#33427923"]msnbc.com.
• A woman who did not want to be identified told First Coast News that she asked investigators to check the vacant house on Gano Avenue and its dumpster. A woman, who did not want to be identified, tells First Coast News' Monica Landeros she asked investigators to search this vacant home and dumpster on Monday night. She says, "I'm upset. It's like, should I have looked, should I have gone in the dumpster?
[/font]• A female neighbor (reportedly Anna Braddy), when questioned about the trash pick-up day, made a comment that the trash had already been collected that day so to take that however you want to (paraphrased).[FONT=&quot] See [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4322499&postcount=253"]post[/ame].[/FONT]
• AB used to walk Somer to school every morning (as reported by First Coast (12/03/2009). She said the neighborhood has changed. http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/m...6&provider=top
• AB, the neighbor who drove the kids to school, implies something is going on and the family knows. [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4322099&postcount=120"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Found Deceased FL-Somer Renee Thompson, age 7, missing from Orange Park, thread #3[/ame]
• AB drove her daughter KB, 9, and three of the Thompson children to school, the way she does every morning. AB said she dropped the children off at school around 7:45 a.m. and made sure they got behind the gate and that they were safe. … Later that day, AB learned that Somer disappeared while walking home from school. ... AB, whose daughter is picked up after school by a babysitter, said she was shocked to learn that the area has so many sexual offenders and predators. Source is not mainstream media: http://christinaleachphillips.wordpr...monday-oct-19/
• RO, neighbor, said Somer never met a stranger; was very friendly. Always looking for other kids to play with. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,569515,00.html
• TJ’s 11 year old would often to the library with Somer and look at books about kitten and puppies. Somer was one of the few friends her daughter had. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,569515,00.html
• TJ said her family recently moved into the area, and her daughter became friends with both AT and Somer. TJ said they made her daughter feel welcome in the neighborhood. Source is not mainstream media: http://christinaleachphillips.wordpr...monday-oct-19/

Facts II, Part 5

Because I was running into issues with surpassing the number of characters in this post, I'm going to divide into Facts I (Somer, Diena, Samuel, Sean, C. Perry) and Facts II (Gano House, Law Enforcement, Other People, Garbage, RSOs, Unrelated) and the Part number will change as we go.

Please do not quote whole post. Bring a correction or addition to my attention with copy/paste.

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GANO AVENUE HOUSE
• This house caught fire months ago and is being restored.
• Work crews have been at that house.
• VD&B is the contractor working on the house.
• Kyle, who works with the contractor, was there on October 19, and said that Somer came in the yard, told him that he/they were doing a good job on the house, and went back the way she came.
• Kyle is the last person known to see Somer alive.
• There are propane tanks surrounded by a fence about a block the house (toward school).
• J., a minor, was riding his bike home when he saw Somer running around near the tanks and that she he thought she was excited but had a frown on her face.
• OPAA is a park and sporting fields across the street from the house.
•LE searched the house extensively on Thursday and Friday.
• The Gano House was proclaimed a crime scene, as was the search area.
•James V. Video in which he states they did get the truck and trailer back and that they where cleared. Also on this video it is the DT family that told the reporter LE asked her not to view the body of Somer. http://www.news4jax.com/video/21409125/

LAW ENFORCEMENT
• LE searched the Gano Avenue house extensively and the men's room at OPAA briefly and came out with a bag.
• An autopsy was performed, and LE knows the cause of death, but that have not released that information.
•Sheriff reports only one person cleared in the investigation into Somer’s death and that is him.
• Investigators made the request / recommendation that Somer's casket be closed.

OTHER PEOPLE
• Houses in the vicinity of the Gano house were searched on Tuesday, October 20. The search literally hit home for schools Superintendent Ben Wortham, who lives about 100 yards from the Gano Drive spot where Somer was last seen. About 2 a.m. Tuesday, his house and many others in the vicinity were “searched from top to bottom,” Wortham said.

GARBAGE/LANDFILL
• Bruce Owens suggests to the sheriff that all trash trucks should be followed and searched so they can isolate the trash coming out of this area, the trash trucks are then followed. (Later reported that Joe Jett gets credit for this.) Owens brought it to Beseler’s attention that clues could be found in the trash. Detective Bruce Owens said he alerted Beseler that clues could be found in trash from around Orange Park. "If a truck was seen, it would be best to follow it to its next location, so they could search or follow it to the closest landfill, so they could isolate it from the dump," Owens said. Owens said he got dozens of deputies and police officers on the road after Somer was reported missing. He said he wanted all garbage trucks checked as quickly as possible. "Time is of the essence. That collection was being done by outside companies," Owens said. Dozens of squad cars stayed on the trail of the garbage trucks as they traveled across the state line into Georgia. "They sifted through about 300,000 tons of waste," Owens said. About 200,000 tons of trash was searched at a landfill in Clay County, and 100,000 tons was searched at a dump in Folkston, Ga. http://www.wesh.com/news/21389441/detail.html
• Somer was found dead on October 21 in the Chesser Island Landfill in Folkston, Georgia.
• LE followed the trucks to the Chesser Island Landfill.
• Dumpsters on Tuesday; Residential on Wednesdays. [ame="http://websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4552356&postcount=360"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Found Deceased FL - Somer Renee Thompson, 7, Orange Park, Thread # 29[/ame]
• FOLKSTON, GA - ambulance are now on site [ame="http://websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4321461&postcount=490"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Found Deceased FL-Somer Renee Thompson, 7, Orange Park THREAD #2[/ame]•

RSOs
• There are 161 RSOs that live within 5 miles of Somer’s home.
• CWG’s name and contact info appears on the initial police report (in error as a case of mistaken identity) detailing her disappearance, along with the names of family, neighbors, and others.
• The owner of VD&B has a brother who is an RSO. His name is GCV.
• Since Somer disappeared many RSO’s have been arrested for failing to update their addresses.

UNRELATED BUT YET, RELATED
• What was thought to be an attempted abduction 10 days before Somer's disappearance turned out not to be an attempted abduction and was not related to Somer's disappearance according to LE. Even after LE said there was no connection, reports on blue Nissans poured in to the CCSO.
• A police report in the Clay County Daily indicated that 4 burglary suspects were arrested at the Thompson home. LE later said that the address was in error and gave this explanation: An officer who was at the Thompson home was called to an unrelated burglary call and made the arrest of 4 individuals but when he filed his report, he forgot to change the address. If you check the Clay County Daily for 10/21, you will find the correct information now.
• CWG's name on the MPR was a result of mistaken identity according to LE.

OTHER FORUMS WITH ITEMS OF INTEREST
• Forum with news articles in entirety: [ame="http://crimeshots.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10032"]Somer Thompson, (7) missing - Crimeshots© True Crime Forums[/ame]
• Somer Thompson Archive: http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/special/somer/archive.aspx

TES/SEARCHES
• Link to video in which they say LE suspended the overnight searches for Tuesday night. (Said on Wednesday morning.) http://www.firstcoastnews.com/video/...ng/49318320001

• When TES was coming. [ame="http://websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4318276&postcount=229"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Found Deceased FL-Somer Renee Thompson, 7, Orange Park THREAD #2[/ame]

THE ARGUMENT/FIGHT/SPAT/SQUABBLE/TIFF
(WS source [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4552117&postcount=334"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Found Deceased FL - Somer Renee Thompson, 7, Orange Park, Thread # 29[/ame])
• Oct 21: http://abcnews.go.com/WN/childs-body...ory?id=8883485 [snipped...] She had been walking with her two siblings, including a twin brother, and friend when she got into an argument with another child. Somer walked ahead of the group and was never seen again.

• Oct 21: http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...ay.html?cat=62 [snipped...] Somer Thompson went missing around 3 p.m. Monday afternoon when she was walking home from school. She, her twin brother, her 10-year-old sister and several friends were headed home when Somer and a friend got into a small argument. When Somer's older sister told her to "quit fighting," Somer reportedly got angry and ran ahead of the group. But when everyone got home, Somer had not yet arrived. Diena Thompson was informed by text message at her work that her child was missing. She immediately left and, chancing upon a police vehicle, flagged it down. The search for Somer Thompson began almost immediately.

• Oct 21: http://www.abcnews.go.com/US/mother-...ory?id=8877337 [snipped...] Holding a picture of her daughter, Thompson told "Good Morning America" that her family, especially Somer's twin brother, are devastated. "We just don't know what to do without her," she said. Somer vanished Monday while on her way home from school with her twin and 10-year-old sister. She had argued with the two other children, Thompson said, and ran ahead of them, far enough that they lost sight of her.

• Oct 23: http://edition.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/10...ody/index.html [snipped...] Somer became separated from her siblings and schoolmates on her way home from school in Orange Park, Florida, on Monday. She was seen in a fight at school before she disappeared, according to a police report released Thursday. Her 10-year-old sister told police that Somer had gotten into a fight with another girl at school earlier in the day. The sister said she brought up the fight while she and her brother walked Somer home from school, and that Somer ran off from them, apparently upset. The sister said she lost sight of Somer in a group of other kids leaving the school, according to the police report. When the other children got home and she wasn't there, they dropped their backpacks and went out looking for her.

• Oct 23: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,...est=latestnews [snipped...] Authorities say Somer squabbled with another child Monday and then walked ahead of the group of kids and was never seen again. Justino said Friday that the argument was verbal and began at school. "Somer became agitated by that," she said.

• http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2...ompsons_school [snipped....] Authorities think she may have hit another child with a backpack and run off alone after someone teased her. It was close to a place where deputies had a report of a recent abduction attempt, one they've since said they don't believe was related.

FUNDRAISERS
• Car show for Somer A car show to benefit the family of Orange Park 7-year-old Somer Thompson, who went missing Oct. 19 and whose body was found two days later in a Georgia landfill, will be from 8 a.m. to 4 p.m. today (12/11) at Hurricane Grill and Wings, 5907 Roosevelt Blvd. There is a $30 entry fee, with plaques and trophies, as well as raffles, with all proceeds to benefit the family. For more information, call 874-9529. http://jacksonville.com/community/my...efit_for_somer

VIDEOS
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/video/

Search for Somer Thompson in Orange Park 11 p.m. Report
• Sheriff calls her Shannon(name of reporter I think). 100 units; utilizing dogs; intensive ground search using SWAT team; asks public to call with anything out of ordinary in neighborhood; clothing backpack that wasn't there before.

• No AMBER Alert and CART alerts require certain criteria. This is being worked as missing child case. Those type of alerts may be forthcoming.

• She was with twin brother and other children; there was a sight argument and she ran ahead. last seen 2:45 p.m. NotifiedLE at around 5 p.m.

Somer Thompson Latest Search 10/20 6 p.m.
• Mike P. (stick man, IIRC) tried to think like a 7 year old.

Crossing Guard Never Saw Somer 10/21
• Miller and Gano and Grove Park and Gano -- not sure they saw Somer
• DeBarry and Gano -- she is positive she did not see Somer

Search for Somer Thompson 10/22 5:30 a.m. Report
• Body found in Georgia may be Somer Thompson.

The Search at Somer's School 10/20 12 p.m. Report
• LE stopping parents at Miller and Gano and taking information.
• First time GPE has ever had missing child; taking time to talk to kids and ease parents' concerns.

Clay County Students Visit Somer's Home on Day Off 10/23
• Parents bringing kids there to see memorial. Not many kids outside; those that they see are being kept close to parents.
• Teaching their kids an important lesson.
• TN brought kids (C and A) to get the message of stranger danger to hit home. Gives nervous laugh when she says "we are certainly enforcing stranger danger."

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/video/...ts/49318341001 or Video Source (Search Dogs Follow Scent, Used Bedsheet 10/21 5 p.m.) Dog handler talking and how she used bed sheets. Comment at end is that they are not sure that the scent was not Somer's from a previous day. http://www.firstcoastnews.com/video/...ts/49318341001

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/mostpop...DBWLGrMkA.cspx
"The last time I remember seeing Somer she was riding her scooter" (BK, age 11, friend of Somer's)

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http://www.news4jax.com/video/21360276/
Wednesday morning, 10/21
Uncut: Somer's Mom, Clay Sheriff Brief Media

Reporter: Did she have a backpack ... that morning? / Diena: She was wearing a matching sweat suit outfit, and she did have a backpack. / Reporter: ... you don't have the backpack? / Diena: She's got like 5 or 6, and she rides to school with a neighbor and I leave for work in the moring ... so I'm not for sure what backpack she had. / (For reference, in the MPR, Diena said black book bag. And there is no mention of purple and/or HM in this video.)

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http://link.brightcove.com/services/...id=45725057001
Diena Thompson Addresses The Media

Reporter: Did you see anything suspicious in the neighborhood? / Diena: ... Nothing. nothing. If I did, I'd've been standing right there.

Clothes described in detail: It was a ... like a cranberry-colored jumpsuit with a matching top to the bottom. Up the sides of the legs and up the sides of the arms is a pink silky strip, and then she had a black shirt underneath. She had rainbow-colored tennis shoes, and she had gray and blue striped ankle socks on. And her hair bow was red.

Infinity

I found a picture online of what I think is an OPPD officer and he is wearing black, long sleeves.
AFAIK, These men are not related in any way to this case; just wanted you to see their uniform.

If you're trying to find that green, might it be forestry or Fish, Wildlife & Parks?

http://photos.jacksonville.com/mycapture/enlarge.asp?image=19821978&event=564653&CategoryID=21970

DT has said she didn't know about the alleged attempted abduction 10 days prior to Somer's disappearance. I have no reason to doubt what she says, but I find it very hard to believe in a community where she herself states in several interviews that the community "looks out for one another" (paraphrasing here).

IMO - everyone and their hamster was talking about that alleged attempted abduction up & down every neighborhood street! In fact, I would find it very hard to believe that everyone wasn't talking about it.

She also stated in another interview (can't remember which video, sorry) that she didn't know that LE was investigating the Gano house. How could she not know when it involved her own daughter?!

I'm sorry, but I've been a part of a serious criminal investigation in recent years (my daughter's kidnapping/attempted murder case), and I was aware of each and every nook & cranny LE was investigating.

These are my opinions based on my own personal experience and logic.

Neighbors talk - especially in a neighborhood as "close-knit" as the one in which DT wants everyone to believe that everybody looked out for everybody.

Sure it happened right around the corner from the house.. the kids would have heard about it

ccane said:

Sure it happened right around the corner from the house.. the kids would have heard about it

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I don't think anyone but the people involved knew about it until Somer went missing. The cop was supposed to have notified the school but it slipped his/her mind IIRC.


ETA

Orange Park Police Chief Jim Boivin told the Times-Union his agency notified the Sheriff's Office of the abduction attempt, but the investigating officer failed to report it to the school. He said that should have been done.

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http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/...t_of_sight_after_orange_park_abduction_attemp

It was at Gano and Grove Park according to the article.

Boothroyd said Kaylee was riding her bike about three blocks from home before heading to a Saturday afternoon birthday party when the incident occurred about noon at Gano Avenue and Grove Park Drive.

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And of course we now know it was not an attempted abduction. Or do we?

Noway said:

I don't think anyone but the people involved knew about it until Somer went missing. The cop was supposed to have notified the school but it slipped his/her mind IIRC.


ETA


http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/...t_of_sight_after_orange_park_abduction_attemp

And of course we now know it was not an attempted abduction. Or do we?

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Sure I get that but dont you think people talked about it, kids talked about it ?

I found this on another web site

In addition to following up information on the abduction attempt, deputies were interviewing children on the way to Grove Park Elementary school this morning in an effort to learn more about what may have happened to Somer.

The mother of the 5-year-old told the Times-Union her daughter was friends with Somer, who has been missing since Monday afternoon. The mother said her daughter told her last night the two girls had previously walked home from Grove Park Elementary school together.

The mother said the attempted abduction of her daughter occurred on Oct. 10 at the corner of Gano Avenue and Grove Park Drive, about a block from where Somer was last seen. The mother said she learned of the abduction attempt from a woman who saw the incident, scared off the potential kidnappers and followed her daughter home to report what happened.

I will try to find the news story now

Not from the reaction of the OP parents after Somer went missing, no.

I don't think that because the 5 year old walked home with Somer that Diena and the mom were friends and talked about it. (Basing this on the 5 year old having to tell her mom that she walked home with Somer sometimes ... thinking that if the mom and Diena were friends, she would have known that her daughter walked home sometimes with Somer.)

I find articles that show up when I google that paragraph but when I open the article, it's not there anymore. Maybe it wasn't true? I'll try to find a cached version.

I found the article in its entirety copied on [ame="http://www..net/forums/showthread.php?t=48960"]another board[/ame]. So it was in there but it's gone now in the updated versions of the same story.

The Times-Union ran the story --This is also the newspaper DT turned down for a interview request

Previous abduction attempt in Orange Park a focus of search for missing girl

Mother said her daughter was hysterical after woman tried to lure her into a car

updated at 9:16 AM on Tuesday, Oct. 20, 2009

As Clay County deputies continue a massive search for missing 7-year-old Somer Renee Thompson this morning, the mother of a girl who was nearly snatched 10 days ago in the same area said she is frightened for Somer.

Sheriff Rick Beseler said it is unclear whether there is a connection between the abduction attempt of the 5-year-old girl and the Somer's disappearance, but he asked that anyone who had any information concerning either incident to contact police.

In addition to following up information on the abduction attempt, deputies were interviewing children on the way to Grove Park Elementary school this morning in an effort to learn more about what may have happened to Somer.

The mother of the 5-year-old told the Times-Union her daughter was friends with Somer, who has been missing since Monday afternoon. The mother said her daughter told her last night the two girls had previously walked home from Grove Park Elementary school together.

The mother said the attempted abduction of her daughter occurred on Oct. 10 at the corner of Gano Avenue and Grove Park Drive, about a block from where Somer was last seen. The mother said she learned of the abduction attempt from a woman who saw the incident, scared off the potential kidnappers and followed her daughter home to report what happened.

The mother said a woman in a car, possibly a blue Nissan SUV, drove up to the girl about while she was riding her bike three blocks from her home. There were also two men in the vehicle.

“The lady was trying to lure my daughter in, saying, “Your mother told me for you to get in the car so I can take you home,” the mother said. “My daughter said no. This other lady saw everything happen. She said they instantly drove off.”

The mother said the woman who witnessed the abduction attempt told the girl to go home and she followed her.

“My daughter was hysterical. The lady was almost crying herself. She said your daughter would have gotten kidnappaped the way the lady was trying to get her in the car," the mother said.

The mother said she called Orange Park police and a report was written. The officer who wrote the report advised her to have her daughter ride her bike closer to their home. There is no indication on the report of any follow-up by police.

"They just gave me a card and told me if I have more information, let them know," she said.

The Times-Union has left a message for Orange Park Police Chief Jim Boivin to discuss the report.

Neither the mother, 26, nor her daughter are being identified by the Times-Union because no arrests were made in the case.

The mother said Clay investigators interviewed her and her daughter for at least 30 minutes this morning, but offered little information on what they think happened to Somer.

"That could have been my child," the mother said. "She's [the 5-year-old] not been out of my sight."

Somer was walking home from Grove Park Elementary near West Gano Avenue and Debarry Avenue with her sister and friends but separated from them about 2:45 p.m. The child lives about a mile from the school. Her mother reported her missing to deputies a few hours later.

Somer was last seen wearing a cranberry colored jumpsuit with pink-striped sleeves. She is 3-foot-5, weighs 65 pounds and has brown hair in a pony tail.
Dozens of Clay deputies, joined by several FBI agents, members of other law enforcement agencies, as well as area residents combed the neighborhood in the cold and dark, but found no sign of the girl, authorities said. Almost 100 deputies including SWAT and K-9 officers are helping in the search this morning. Helicopters are also involved.

Beseler said authorities are searching an approximately three-mile radius. There are about 53 sexual predators in that area, and the sheriff said all were interviewed and their residencessearched.

Beseler said before Somer went missing on Monday, she might have hit another child with her backpack during an argument and run off. He had said it's possible she might have run to a friend's house because she was afraid of getting in trouble.

"The longer she's out there unaccounted for, it becomes more disconcerting that it might not just be a childish prank," Beseler said.

Clay authorities are working with the Florida Department of Law Enforcement to issue an statewide Amber Alert for Somer. One wasn't issued earlier because her disappearance wasn't witnessed and there is no vehicle description, which are criteria for such alerts. Clay authorities are asking that the criteria be modified so an alert can be issued in this case

Hello! Wow! Those bright cove videos, I've heard of this interview with the man not shown, but never thought I'd see them. Thanks.

My first comment about them is the same one I notice a lot when she is interviewed.
The fact that what happened to that day happened to HER.
I have never heard her say I never thought this would happen to S. Just that she never thought this would ever happen to her!! Does anyone else think this is very odd way to view this crime?

My second comment is in reference to if she would have seen anything suspicious in the neighborhood " if I did I would have been seeing them right there".

Where the crime took place? Where was she talking about that she was at the time to have been in a position to see someone suspicious RIGHT THERE? She'd have to know the where and the when to be able to see the suspicious person in her mind, right there.

This is about the most difficult statement to make any logical sense of that she has made yet. And she has said more than a few disturbing comments!!

What are you all thinking about what she is referring to?

I think she meant that she never thought she'd be one of those people who knew someone who knew a child who was missing/murdered much less that she herself would be the parent of the missing/murdered child.

As far as her statement in the video (http://link.brightcove.com/services/...id=45725057001
Diena Thompson Addresses The Media), I think it's been established that she said this:

Reporter: Did you see anything suspicious in the neighborhood?

Diena: ... Nothing. nothing. If I did, I'd've been standing right there.

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And by this statement, I think she meant that if she saw someone lurking in a car or hanging around a neighbor's house, or anything else suspicious, then she would have gone to investigate it.

JMO

Noway said:

I don't think that because the 5 year old walked home with Somer that Diena and the mom were friends and talked about it. (Basing this on the 5 year old having to tell her mom that she walked home with Somer sometimes ... thinking that if the mom and Diena were friends, she would have known that her daughter walked home sometimes with Somer.)

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If DT heard the story I would have been from Somer or the other kids

Noway said:

I think she meant that she never thought she'd be one of those people who knew someone who knew a child who was missing/murdered much less that she herself would be the parent of the missing/murdered child.

As far as her statement in the video (http://link.brightcove.com/services/...id=45725057001
Diena Thompson Addresses The Media), I think it's been established that she said this:



And by this statement, I think she meant that if she saw someone lurking in a car or hanging around a neighbor's house, or anything else suspicious, then she would have gone to investigate it.

JMO

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I still think in this video where she is going through the litany of little girls, sometimes referring to the child like Haleigh, then the Anthony's, Jessica Lunsford, I never thought it would happen to __________. I would have thought she would have said S. But she doesn't. She says ME.

I get the reference you gave above as having been said also. But, again as it relates to what happened that day having happened to HER.

That's all. As for your correction. I meant to use yours, but when I went back to get the exact quote I got Cane's instead. But, you know my take is still the same because it doesn't make a dimes worth of difference if she said seen or standing right there, KWIM??

Thank you though.

But if she didn't hear anything from the school, would she think it was just kids exaggerating? IDK

I have to add something to a comment that I made earlier when I said that I have no reason to doubt what DT says. It was post # 6 in this thread.

I would like to correct myself - I have every reason to doubt what she says because she contradicts herself & everyone else almost everyone time she opens her mouth to speak.

And I would like to reiterate what I said in a previous post when I stated that I take what she says with less than a grain of salt.