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    Good job Chaddy! Follow up sometimes seems like but you're doing a great job!

    By the way, there's a case out of TX right now where a lady went missing in 1986- an unidentified victim was found a couple of weeks later- they're waiting for DNA, but her family has ID'd the belongings found with the victim. There's a news article about this case, if you're interested in it let me know and I can send it on to you. Here's the thing- she was found only a few miles from where she went missing and she was reported missing not long after her disapperance, and somehow the connection wasn't made until 2009. Someone from TX Equisearch noticed the dates and contacted LE, so please follow up, you never know it could be her.

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    Snuf,

    If you want to send me the article, that would be great! I am going to call the PD when I get home from work. We are getting a snow storm here in good old PA (snowed all week)...so I am leaving about in an hour. Hopefully I will get to talk to someone get at least a yes or no answer!!


    I will post as soon as I hear anything!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaddylex View Post
    I read somewhere on here... (Can't remember where) that it's not good to contact the family members directly of missing people. I figured the Medical Examiners office would have the decency to at least give me a yes or no answer.

    I will contact the police dept on Cynthia's flyer tomorrow... (It's almost 10pm). I hate making calls, I wish they had an email address. They listed both the Illinois State Police and East St Louis PD.

    I will let you all know if I get a response!

    Thanks for the encouragement!
    If it were my family member missing and I had a website for that purpose, you can bet your booty I'd welcome any leads out there!! IMO that's what the family created the website for. If there was no one actively looking, that'd be a different story. I believe, as an individual, you can make that sort of decision yourself. JMO

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    Made a Call

    Well, I first tried to call Lt Jim Morrisory at the Illinois State Police Dept and that number is disconnected, so I contacted the number of the East St Louis Police Dept that was listed on her NAMPM page. I left a message for a Chief Stewart. I gave him my cell number to call me back....we will see!

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    You might want to contact the mo state highway patrol on UID's poster and tell them you think Cynthia Day is their UID. I don't see ESL PD putting a lot of effort into this. From the news articles I read they would'nt go to CA to talk to the guy they felt responsible for Cynthias disappearence. The daughters even offered to pay the airfare. That city is very low on funds and manpower.

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    Happyoldjojo,

    Maybe I will do that...tomorrow. I doubt right now I would be able to get ahold of anyone. I would just hope to hear something back from someone!!

    I went onto the Illinois State Police Website and Cynthia isn't even listed on their website as a missing person.


    Also thank you to the rest of you sleuthers from the local area that knew about the PD not having alot of money, never hearing about the UID being found in MO, etc....this UID could be Cynthia and they never been compared!

    The disapperance of Cynthia and when the UID was within weeks, and the locations are pretty close!!


    If this is her, I will be happy that her family can have some closure, which should have came a long time ago!

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    Chaddylex - I agree with happyoldjojo that you might get more of a response on the Missouri side of the river. When I lived in illinois (15 years ago) East St Louis was an extremely high crime area that had a reputation as a lawless area. It wouldn't surprise me if they never checked UIDs close by when Cynthia disappeared. You've done great work on this!! I hope you get an answer soon!!

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    I am going to call the Missouri State Highway Patrol as soon as my hubby leaves for work in about an hour. (he thinks I am crazy doing this)

    Anywho, I looked on the Missouri Stae Highway Patrols website http://www.mshp.dps.mo.gov/MSHPWeb/P...rsonsList.html and the UID isn't even listed on the site....UGH
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    Got a Response Back!

    This is what I received back from the Missouri State Highway Patrol


    Janell,
    Sorry Janell, but I have not had a chance to check into case 5294. I will get together with the Sgt. that is over missing persons so she can help compare the case too. I will be out of the office and will return after Jan 18. I will get back to you that week.

    Tracy Lehmen
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    Division of Drug and Crime Control

    tracy.lehmen@mshp.dps.mo.gov

    573-526-6305
    573-526-5577 (Fax)



    I guess it's a start!!

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    Chaddylex- Awesome job I hope this is a match and the family can find some peace. It's gonna be a long week.


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    Thanks happyoldjojo,


    I still never heard back from the police dept that is handling Cynthia's case...I called last Thursday... At least I heard from the Police Dept handling the UID.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaddylex View Post
    Thanks happyoldjojo,


    I still never heard back from the police dept that is handling Cynthia's case...I called last Thursday... At least I heard from the Police Dept handling the UID.
    For the record, I had a friend go missing back in the 70's. The pd handling her cold case aren't as responsive to the family that's still looking for her as they wish they were. That's another reason to contact the family when it's apparent they're still looking for her. My friends sister has to stay on top of the pd involved in her missing sister's case, unfortunately their mother passed away without ever knowing. It really can help to contact the family because they can contact the pd and they usually know who gets the job done! JMO

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    Tracey from Missouri State Highway Patrol says that they will get back in touch next week. If I don't hear back, I will consider contacting her family.

    Billylee, I know what you are saying is true, I just figured that I will give the cops "that should be responsible" - that are listed as contacts, a chance to see if this is a match.

    Has your friends family had any luck with coming closer to finding their family member with help from the PD? It's a shame some are so lax, and then some cops give it their all... I think some cops think that cold cases aren't of any importance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaddylex View Post
    Tracey from Missouri State Highway Patrol says that they will get back in touch next week. If I don't hear back, I will consider contacting her family.

    Billylee, I know what you are saying is true, I just figured that I will give the cops "that should be responsible" - that are listed as contacts, a chance to see if this is a match.

    Has your friends family had any luck with coming closer to finding their family member with help from the PD? It's a shame some are so lax, and then some cops give it their all... I think some cops think that cold cases aren't of any importance.
    The PD does help, but over the years, it's been almost 40 now, as can be understood, less attention is payed to the older cases. So my friend's sister says, and I'm trying to quote here "they have been not a responsive when a lead comes in". Anyway, at some point, a cold case, I imagine, becomes just that.....COLD. With the economy and city/state/county budgets flailing, it makes sense that something has to be dropped somewhere. All the more reason I think what "we" do can help provide man/woman power where it is needed is appreciated. I just wish there was/were more LE agencies putting out the information that might help us help them solve the cases! Seems to me within some agencies there's a weird feeling of needing to hold some cards to the chest that perhaps don't need to be and would/could give the public info that could just bust open a case. I dunno......just thinkin'

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaddylex View Post
    I read somewhere on here... (Can't remember where) that it's not good to contact the family members directly of missing people. I figured the Medical Examiners office would have the decency to at least give me a yes or no answer.

    I will contact the police dept on Cynthia's flyer tomorrow... (It's almost 10pm). I hate making calls, I wish they had an email address. They listed both the Illinois State Police and East St Louis PD.


    I will let you all know if I get a response!

    Thanks for the encouragement!
    I think you are correct not to contact the family. NamUs.gov says this:

    How Can You Help?

    Be Responsible

    You can be active for the cause of missing and unidentified persons in a number of ways. The most important is this: If you have information about a missing or unidentified person, immediately report the information to the local law enforcement agency.

    Do not put yourself in a potentially dangerous situation. Investigation of missing and unidentified persons should be left to the proper authorities. Putting yourself in a potentially hazardous situation can complicate matters further.


    Since this is a possible murder by the boyfriend you need to be careful.
    Good work and good luck!

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