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    Quote Originally Posted by MarchingTwinkie3 View Post
    Just wanted to add that 'rotary' is also a rather Massachusetts-specific term for what others would call a 'traffic circle' or 'roundabout'. The only one in Hyannis appears to be the one near the Barnstable Municipal Airport. At the very least, this is what is being referred to, as her Charley Project page mentions the rotary being near the airport. According to this video, the rotary has recently been changed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNsHAvHdT-4

    Just thought I'd add that. Having spent my entire life in this state, hearing the word 'rotary' makes me think of that before I even think of the Rotary Club, and I always forget that we're pretty unique with that.
    Yeah, the Hyannis rotary -- the traffic circle -- is a major Cape Cod landmark. It's a big one and has businesses all around it. There's even a small mall now, though I don't know whether it was there in 1977.

    Here's a map, with the airport marked to the right. The rotary is that circle in the middle. https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Barns...annis,+MA&z=17

    This location is the transportation center of Cape Cod -- you can catch a bus to locations all over the Cape and beyond, or an airplane to Boston or New York City -- both scheduled flights and air taxi. Exactly what companies were providing service has varied over the years, but most of the time there's something. There are motels and restaurants where you could meet somebody. State route 28 provides a good chance to catch a ride with somebody, no matter where you're going. And there were lots of people catching rides with other people in 1977.

    If she really was trying to get to anywhere on Cape Cod, that was a good place to catch a second ride. If she was meeting somebody, meeting at a restaurant on the rotary would be convenient from almost anywhere. If she really was running away, it was a good location to leave from.

    She had only been missing for a couple of years when we moved to New England, but people were still talking about it. There have always been rumors across rural and suburban eastern MA that there was a rogue cop or trooper who was a serial rapist/killer who would attack women under the guise or helping them, and that this is why several such missing persons cases received so little attention.
    Last edited by carbuff; 11-27-2012 at 01:34 PM. Reason: map says rotary's not as big as I remember it :p
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    There isn't much info on Simone's disappearance. It makes it so vague, so any theory really could be right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sam spade View Post
    Has anyone looked at 531ufco @ doe network as a possible match for Simone? Right age range, hair, height, weight and LOTS of jewelry. Let me know what you think. Thanks guys!
    Did anybody ever submit this possible match? It looks like a definite possibility to me. It would mean she left home willingly and ran into trouble later, I suppose, but nothing about her disappearance precludes that.

    Side by side attached. I flipped Simone's photo so she's facing the same direction as the reconstruction.
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    The nose and face shape look a little off to me, but you really never know, it never hurts to submit the possibility. Not all reconstructions are going to be on the spot perfect.
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    Well there is a state trooper and a civilian involved in the transportation of her. Then she went poof at the rotary.

    It's hard not to jump to a few conclusions, jmvho.

    I will check my files to see if I received an email from the Detective-I am pretty sure it was ruled out but let me be certain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odyssey View Post
    After watching that Fox video posted previously in this thread, I am left with some more questions.

    I was pausing the video to try to read the reports but was only able to read little bits and pieces... but found a couple interesting things in them.

    First, I was able to identify the man who said he gave her a ride, he would have been about 70 years old at the time, and was about 79 when he came forward after reading an article about Simone's case in the paper. There is always a possibility that he was confused but I have no reason to believe that he had any ill intentions, or would be a suspect. Since LE clearly has this person's name, though, I think it would be useful to look through the State Trooper logs and see if that person DID receive a violation of some sort that morning.

    One question I have had since I first read about this case, is why was Simone in a State Trooper's car? I wondered if maybe law enforcement regularly picked up hitchhikers back then?

    If you look at the first report in the video (the handwritten one), near the top of the first page it says something about Department of Corrections. near the middle of the same page, it says:
    "While I was there, I learned that Simone had a special visiting privilege for one day that afternoon. I waited around, to see if she showed up, but she didn’t."

    The following also came from the same report but parts of it were outside of the camera's range so it is incomplete: (... = unknown words)

    "to speak to….to see if he….find out why he had…to her. He said that he stopped…cause she had stopped writing to him…as knowing where she was, he had no idea and was quite concerned to find out she was missing. While I was there, I learned that Simone had a special visiting privilege for one day that afternoon. I waited around, to see if she showed up, but she didn’t. Upon my arrival to the Sherborn Police Station, I was informed by Det. Morrow that his daughter Kim had picked up Simone ten (or two) days prior to this date, at ... of Washington St and Maple St, and drove her to ... in Framingham.”

    I am wondering if she was incarcerated at the time, although reports say she was last seen at the Rainbow Restaurant, her place of employment. I'm not sure what a special visiting privilege for one day would mean. It could also explain why she was in a State Trooper car, if she was released from somewhere for the day with a police escort?

    My take on the other jumbled pieces of the report, is that her mother was trying to find out why someone had stopped by to see her unexpectedly and he said it was because she had stopped writing to him. So it could also have made sense that Simone was writing to and trying to visit someone who was incarcerated (and had a special privilege to do so), but that would mean the report probably didn't say "stopped by", if he was incarcerated. It kind of looks like her mother was saying she had information that Simone was scheduled to visit an incarcerated friend, and Simone's mother went to the jail to see if she showed up. Hard to say.

    The restaurant she was seen walking toward (according to the video) was a former Howard Johnson or Ground Round (reporter doesn't seem to be sure which). There was a Howard Johnson at Main and Winter streets in Hyannis, and there was also a Ground Round but I cannot find an exact location of where it was. The restaurant where she was last seen walking was near an airport, I'm assuming the Barnstable Municipal Airport. I am trying to figure out if this was in walking distance to her mother's house, or if she would have had to hitchhike again to get to her mother's from where she was dropped off.

    Can anyone make out any more of the report?

    ETA: the elderly man claimed he dropped her off at the Hyannis Rotary... things may well have changed over the years but from what I can see now, the rotary doesn't have a location... it meets at country clubs, etc.
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    bump for simone!
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    bumpity-bump-bump

    Come home soon, Simone!

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    Simone Ridinger - Facebook Page

    "Natick: Bish family helps postal service remember missing children" - June 16, 2015

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    Among them was Simone Ridinger of Sherborn. Ridinger was hitchhiking from her job at a restaurant in Sherborn to Cape Cod on Sept. 2, 1977 and has been missing since.

    Her sister, Betsy Bailey, was at the post office to mail a letter on Tuesday when she came across the event. Bailey has lived in Holliston for more than 20 years and owns a business in downtown Natick.

    When asked how she keeps her hopes up, Bailey said “I just think about her in a good way.” Ridinger’s case is still open with Sherborn Police.

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    Where's Simone? Family still searches for teen who vanished in 1977

    http://www.wcvb.com/news/wheres-simo...-1977/41879584

    Almost four decades ago, 17-year-old Simone Ridinger left her job at a Natick restaurant to head to the bus stop en route to her family’s Martha’s Vineyard home.

    The MetroWest Daily News reported that was on Sept. 2, 1977, and it was the last time Ridinger was seen or heard.

    Thirty-nine years later, Sherborn Police Detective James Godhino is asking for help to solve the missing person’s case.

    “I’ve been working on this for a while now,” said Godhino. “It’s like looking for a needle in a haystack. I’m trying to utilize anything I can do to get some information on the case.”

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    Living in the area all my life, it seemed like there was some "secret evil army" that went around kidnapping kids and young adults in the 70's and early 80's before the rise of cell phones, public cameras, and other technology. Anyway, the Simone Ridinger case intrigues me because of it being local and because there seems to be opportunities to push this investigation further along. The standard story was she was last seen leaving her place of employment at the Rainbow Restaurant on Friday, September 2, 1977 and her plan was to hitchhike down to her mother's place on Cape Cod. That was Labor Day weekend in 1977. She never arrived. To me, the most tantalizing area to focus on is the civilian and state trooper encounter the next day, Saturday, September 3, 1977. This civilian, 70 years old at the time ended up giving her a ride to the Cape and dropped her off at a rotary/roundabout in Hyannis. There seems to be no "deep dive" that I know of into this angle of the case. According to the civilian he was pulled over near the 128/109 rest area (I know the area well) and the trooper had Simone (we think) in the back seat and he asked the civilian to give her a ride down the Cape. OK this is strange all around...Did the trooper pull the civilian over for a violation then when he found out where he has driving did he ask the favor? Or did he just randomly pull over the civilian (no violation) and asked him to give his passenger a ride? Was a citation ever issued? Was the state trooper ever questioned? This is important because it would change the date she was last seen to September 3rd. Plus, why was she in a state trooper's car in the first place?

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    Quote Originally Posted by carbuff View Post
    Yeah, the Hyannis rotary -- the traffic circle -- is a major Cape Cod landmark. It's a big one and has businesses all around it. There's even a small mall now, though I don't know whether it was there in 1977.

    Here's a map, with the airport marked to the right. The rotary is that circle in the middle. https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Barns...annis,+MA&z=17

    This location is the transportation center of Cape Cod -- you can catch a bus to locations all over the Cape and beyond, or an airplane to Boston or New York City -- both scheduled flights and air taxi. Exactly what companies were providing service has varied over the years, but most of the time there's something. There are motels and restaurants where you could meet somebody. State route 28 provides a good chance to catch a ride with somebody, no matter where you're going. And there were lots of people catching rides with other people in 1977.

    If she really was trying to get to anywhere on Cape Cod, that was a good place to catch a second ride. If she was meeting somebody, meeting at a restaurant on the rotary would be convenient from almost anywhere. If she really was running away, it was a good location to leave from.

    She had only been missing for a couple of years when we moved to New England, but people were still talking about it. There have always been rumors across rural and suburban eastern MA that there was a rogue cop or trooper who was a serial rapist/killer who would attack women under the guise or helping them, and that this is why several such missing persons cases received so little attention.

    Hi, the cape cod mall was opened in the early 70s, then expanded in 1977. I know the large rotary near the airport well. But, there is also the possibility she was dropped off further down Main street where it ends at a small roundabout near the Paddock and hotel/conference center (is it still a Sheraton?) The only reason I say that is the civilian who dropped her off said " last saw her walking toward a restaurant; either a Ground Round or Howard Johnson’s." Now back in the day, I recall both the Ground Round and HOJOs being on Main street. So, I think he may have dropped her off at the small roundabout where Main Street and Scudder Ave. meets, near the Hyannis package store. From there you may have been able to see the restaurants. I do nt think you would be able to see them from that airport rotary? Agree?

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    I think it is possible that the girl this man picked up wasn't Simone. I just say that because the man was 79 when he came forward and this had happened about 9 years earlier. It certainly could have been her, but I think it could have been someone who looked similar.

    The girl apparently called herself "Sissy" and someone who knew Simone said she never heard of her using that nickname.

    I am really interested in what that visitation pass was about though. It was scheduled for after she went missing, because her mother had gone to wherever this was supposed to take place, hoping Simone would show up there.

    The person who contacted me that knew Simone did not know what that was about.

    I had seen something on one of the pages that briefly flashed on the screen that said "Department of Corrections" which leads me to think there was some sort of tie to law enforcement. This makes me think there is a good chance the girl he picked up WAS Simone because of the state troopers cat. I wish we could piece all this together.

    There was also a mention of a police officer or detective saying his daughter had picked up Simone at some point and I couldn't make out exactly when that was. I wasn't sure if this was before or after her disappearance, but it suggested that this girl knew Simone.

    We need more puzzle pieces for sure.

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