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    Quote Originally Posted by A_Closer_Look View Post
    Am i doing this wrong? I don't fly much at all, so this is foreign to me... but it looks like Victoria TX is a pretty small airport and that they have a flight departure bound for Nashville on Sundays.

    http://www.priceline.com/travel/airl...=pcln&path=bak
    The originating flight goes to Houston, then another flight connects to Dallas, then that one goes to Nashville. Today's date comes up as default unless you try other days of the week. I changed the date to tomorrow and more flights come up -

    http://www.priceline.com/travel/airl...=pcln&path=bak
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    Quote Originally Posted by panthera View Post
    The originating flight goes to Houston, then another flight connects to Dallas, then that one goes to Nashville. Today's date comes up as default unless you try other days of the week. I changed the date to tomorrow and more flights come up -

    http://www.priceline.com/travel/airl...=pcln&path=bak
    Thanks. So if someone left Victoria with Gabriel bound for Nashville, they'd have to pass through two larger airports. I'm sure the FBI were all over those security cameras at those airports...

    ETA - looks like the plane that leaves Victoria is pretty tiny, 25 passengers or so, per the seating chart. Should be easy enough for someone to have been spotted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by panthera View Post
    This is someone who should NEVER have had a baby and should have been monitored on medication, or confined. MOO


    Unfortunately, for people with this kind of disorder, a baby gives them leverage and control. A child is the most powerful weapon a sick person can get their hands on.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ethonic View Post
    Hello,

    Finally done reading the pages! So Tammi is now BFF with Pat Brown?
    My previously high opinion of Pat Brown just dropped about 999%...


    Does anyone know why exactly Elizabeth claimed to be at the airport where she supposedly met the Smiths in the first place? I've combed through the threads and news reports but haven't seen a reason given. I'm sure I'm not the only one doubts the whole airport meeting story.


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    Quote Originally Posted by A_Closer_Look View Post
    Thanks. So if someone left Victoria with Gabriel bound for Nashville, they'd have to pass through two larger airports. I'm sure the FBI were all over those security cameras at those airports...

    ETA - looks like the plane that leaves Victoria is pretty tiny, 25 passengers or so, per the seating chart. Should be easy enough for someone to have been spotted.
    Absolutely - not a good idea to fly there if you're trying to remain unnoticed, imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeanE View Post
    Here's the hostel she stayed at. It's a little more than $20 a night.

    International Fun Hostel at 230 20th ST, Miami Beach FL 33139

    Google Map (has Street View):

    http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sour...5&z=16&iwloc=A
    Thanks - I could only find a listing for this on Craigslist --25 bucks a night-- seems like EJ is fan of Craigslist --
    Here's the link to the ad http://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/roo/1537399982.html


    "Have fun with your money! Don't spend it all paying for a bed!. Santa Barbara is the newest, funnest, most eventful, and cleanest hostel In all Of South Florida! Come stay with us and see why the Santa Barabara will become one of the best hostels in the US."
    http://www.instantworldbooking.com/F...iami-Beach.htm

    [sorry this was a discussion last night]
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneLove View Post


    Unfortunately, for people with this kind of disorder, a baby gives them leverage and control. A child is the most powerful weapon a sick person can get their hands on.
    You are so right. And she did use him just for that purpose by making Logan out to be the monster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by panthera View Post
    This is someone who should NEVER have had a baby and should have been monitored on medication, or confined. MOO
    Aggressive and violent since childhood. Not as common in girls. Not good.

    I wonder how much therapy she got from the time her problems started.


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    Quote Originally Posted by A_Closer_Look View Post
    Thanks. So if someone left Victoria with Gabriel bound for Nashville, they'd have to pass through two larger airports. I'm sure the FBI were all over those security cameras at those airports...

    ETA - looks like the plane that leaves Victoria is pretty tiny, 25 passengers or so, per the seating chart. Should be easy enough for someone to have been spotted.
    There are also Charter flights out of that airport.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Salem View Post
    At here is a schedule for the Victoria Regional Airport: http://www.flyvictoriatx.com/times.html

    Continential has a flight leaving on Sundays at 7:00 a.m. All arrivals are late in the afternoon/evening on the weekends.

    I wish we had a time on the ping. It would be very helpful.

    Salem
    Salem, thank you for digging that up. Since there is a flight leaving on Sundays and they do fly into Nashville, it makes more sense now. E could have gone down there the night before, stayed at the campground and delivered the baby to the person(s) and they flew out at 7am the next morning. Since it takes 2.5 hours to get back to San Antonio, she could have caught the 1pm bus at Tornado Bus Lines and had ample time to ditch the car, the phone and everything in the room. She just walked away. She must have received some kind of cash if when she left AZ, all she had was $600.00 She had to buy gas to drive almost a 1000 miles, eat at some point and paid for a motel room at the motel 6. I don't know if that would have been able to cover a bus ticket to Florida too and possibly had to pay to stay at the youth hostel in Miami. That's stretching $600.00 pretty far. Anyway, it makes more sense that this may have actually taken place.

    Quote Originally Posted by time View Post
    Salem... wonder if private planes can use this airport? That's where my bet would be.
    Yes, private aircraft, charter and non-commercial flights come and go out of regional airports.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeanE View Post
    Aggressive and violent since childhood. Not as common in girls. Not good.

    I wonder how much therapy she got from the time her problems started.
    Definitely not enough, imo, since the same behavior continues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by time View Post
    There are also Charter flights out of that airport.
    And hopefully all around the time of the cell pings are being investigated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velouria View Post
    My previously high opinion of Pat Brown just dropped about 999%...


    Does anyone know why exactly Elizabeth claimed to be at the airport where she supposedly met the Smiths in the first place? I've combed through the threads and news reports but haven't seen a reason given. I'm sure I'm not the only one doubts the whole airport meeting story.
    Elizabeth was born and raised in Massachusetts, until she was 11 or 12yo. From what I've been reading, it appears she was in Massachusetts with her Grandfather (or greatgrandfather) and they met the Smiths at Logan airport. This was when Gabriel was a month old. I saw an article last night where the grandfather was talking about it. I didn't know until then that the grandfather was with her at the time.

    Sorry, so many pages read yesterday, I don't recall where the article is.

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    PS...I'm thinking perhaps she'd taken the baby back home to meet more of her extended family....


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    Quote Originally Posted by BeanE View Post
    She updated her MS on Dec 29. It was probably at the youth hostel. I'm thinking Logan was watching her MS and told LE, and LE traced her IP.

    (Theory)
    Excellent theory, and how dumb can EJ be? she dumped her cell and gf's car to cover her tracks, and then she logs on and updates her MS? IMO she severed ties with TS at that point and was not being told what to do or not to do


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    Quote Originally Posted by BeanE View Post
    Aggressive and violent since childhood. Not as common in girls. Not good.

    I wonder how much therapy she got from the time her problems started.
    You would think that at least one of the five sets of foster parents would notice and get therapy --

    Maybe this is why there were five sets, though -- they just couldn't take it and passed her on.


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