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    Quote Originally Posted by dreamweaver View Post
    I am starting to feel Sarah is somewhere near where the car was found.
    There's been no trace of her for over 5 weeks.

    Yes, she could be roaming the homeless part of a city,
    she could...

    And I know that LE and search dogs checked for a mile in each direction from where the car was found. Nothing found. That's a good thing.

    Was it a mile up and down I 95?
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    a mile off I-95 into the trees, bogs?

    Prayers for Sarah.
    There are no bogs. There is no water, river or anything near where her car was found that would indicate she was under water.


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    Quote Originally Posted by OrdinaryLife View Post
    I am very aware of the weather at this time since I live in N.E. Considering what the snow/wind was like at that time, much may have been distorted regarding footprints, etc. LE can only do what they can with what they are presented with. Unfortunately, Sarah is an adult and if she wanted to leave on her own accord, there is nothing LE can do. Even when calls are made regarding mental status. I could go into details with my own family members and what they have been through with situations very similar to this one. Hands are legally tied until there is evidence of wrong doing by others or violence made by said ill person towards another. That's a fact.

    If Sarah did get a ride, I think it is disturbing that no person would come out and share that they picked up a woman wearing Summer clothing in the middle of a N.E. winter storm. I believe she was in the midst of an episode and normal reasoning was simply not there. I have been upstate route 95 many times. It's as wooded as you can imagine. It not so simple to find a missing person as it may be thought.

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    Whomever picked her up to give her a ride, if that is what occured, may not even know that she is a missing person or even from the area to know. For that matter, and unfortunately, people right in Clinton, ME may not even know who she is or her plight. That is why getting the posters out continually in every possible place is important. As is the media.


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    Quote Originally Posted by thebeesknees View Post

    One more thing...LE followed her footprints which led to the south bound lanes...did they cross the southbound lanes to see if they could find MORE footprints?? Had they searched across the southbound lane, footprints found or not, we can at least have a better idea of what became of Sarah...footprints going across the southbound lane and into the woods may PROVE that she is in those woods somewhere...however if none were found then yes we can safely say, Sarah indeed got a ride from someone.
    Yes. They did. The footprints stopped at the median and did not cross over onto the wooded area beyond the southbound lanes. They stopped as if they then entered a vehicle. They did not cross back to the Northbound either... from what all has been told, the footprints just stopped. They didn't go North on the southbound, or south on the southbound.


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    To whomever asked about Sarah and her meds. She was off meds for only three weeks prior. She was not the only caretaker of her son, his father (Fritz) cared for Elias at home as well. Yes she has had previous serious episodes in which she didn't recognize family members. The only difference is the last bad one she was brought to a hospital in Florida and gave her name as "Marla Moon" and her ID told otherwise.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lavanda Dolce View Post
    Whomever picked her up to give her a ride, if that is what occured, may not even know that she is a missing person or even from the area to know. For that matter, and unfortunately, people right in Clinton, ME may not even know who she is or her plight. That is why getting the posters out continually in every possible place is important. As is the media.
    I agree. There may have been noone who was aware of what was going on. However, any person who witnessed a person dressed for summer during a snowstorm would remember that. Regardless of news that they may have missed. Sarah would not have been missed by anyone in Clinton, to be sure, if they saw her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lavanda Dolce View Post
    To whomever asked about Sarah and her meds. She was off meds for only three weeks prior. She was not the only caretaker of her son, his father (Fritz) cared for Elias at home as well. Yes she has had previous serious episodes in which she didn't recognize family members. The only difference is the last bad one she was brought to a hospital in Florida and gave her name as "Marla Moon" and her ID told otherwise.
    How do you know all that to be "true"???

    I did read where she was "off" her meds all during her pregnancy with no ill effects apparently...

    besides...IF a person is that "bad" mentally how can they be left alone with a baby, a toddler?? Let's not forget the famous bi-polar case of Andrea Yates.....left alone to care for all those little kids, she went into a deep depression and drowned them...(and no I realize that not all/many bipolar people do this but I am stating an example)

    IF Sarah was this "bad" off mentally why was she left alone with their child??

    either she was very mentally ill (which it seems people want to prove) OR she wasn't....if she was "that" bad off..why was she out and about and even able to drive and be caretaker of their young child??


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lavanda Dolce View Post
    Whomever picked her up to give her a ride, if that is what occured, may not even know that she is a missing person or even from the area to know. For that matter, and unfortunately, people right in Clinton, ME may not even know who she is or her plight. That is why getting the posters out continually in every possible place is important. As is the media.
    I don't know how to find the post, but it seems her husband felt this was a real possiblity, he posted about the bogs and was looking for people to search there with dogs etc..

    I am pretty sure he said about the bogs...I remembered thinking about bogs in Ireland and "cranberry bog" commerical on tv

    does anyone else recall this??? thanks


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    Quote Originally Posted by LogicalMinds View Post
    I don't know how to find the post, but it seems her husband felt this was a real possiblity, he posted about the bogs and was looking for people to search there with dogs etc..

    I am pretty sure he said about the bogs...I remembered thinking about bogs in Ireland and "cranberry bog" commerical on tv

    does anyone else recall this??? thanks
    yeah, i do. its post # 288 in the first thread...says its 280ft. across with 6ft.deep ice holes and a drainage running thru it....


    eta: but then a local drove by the mile marker and reported to us that there is NO bog in the area that fc said that there was. fc said that the local was wrong, because he went there and saw it.... funny, now we here that the local was right....
    Last edited by nervous_nellie; 01-23-2010 at 09:27 PM. Reason: eta


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    Quote Originally Posted by LogicalMinds View Post
    I don't know how to find the post, but it seems her husband felt this was a real possiblity, he posted about the bogs and was looking for people to search there with dogs etc..

    I am pretty sure he said about the bogs...I remembered thinking about bogs in Ireland and "cranberry bog" commerical on tv

    does anyone else recall this??? thanks

    Yes, Sarah's husband, Bubba on WS, said there were bogs next to where the car was discovered. He talked about ice, water, bogs.
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    For references to Bubba's posts go to page 12, post 288 and continue to page 13.

    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...Rogers&page=12


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    For reference to more of Bubba's post go to page 14 where Bubba states it is a fact that she is no more. Also, a strange word, seance. Post #330

    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...Rogers&page=14


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lavanda Dolce View Post

    No the manic state would not have passed by now. A deep state of confusion and/or continued voices could be ongoing and keeping her from reality. At one time in Sarah's past her manic episode was so severe she did not know or recognize her own husband or family. Her condition is very serious. I guess that is why her husband tried to explain...we are not talking about normal functioning people with a bipolar disorder. We are talking about a very serious case of bipolar-schizophrenia-paranoia combination that could put Sarah out of touch with reality and or just going through the motions of wandering among others in a deep state of cognitive dysfunction. Her case is of the most serious type.
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    when you say "no the manic state would not have passed by now"...HOW do you know that?? Most medical professionals would not do such an online diagnosis..
    from what we have been led to believe, Sarah was able to "function", she was sweet, loving, a good mom, an accomplished folk singer guitarist..so why say that the "manic state would not have passed by now"???

    Even in cases of just "regular" bipolar people may have a short or longer "phase"...but no one can determine when it might end JMO

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    then you go on to say how "serious" her condition is....who told you that?? the husband, the family?? I don't think any of us are privy to her medical records so forgive me for being sceptical but it seems to me that poor Sarah's mental illness has grown by leaps and bounds in description here

    any possible question is answered by referring to the "mental illness" which is now not just bipolar but now is " very serious case of bipolar-schizophrenia-paranoia"...

    well ...let me again ask...why in the world was a woman so severely mentally ill allowed to be caretaker to her son, allowed to drive etc?? How was she able to be left alone if she was that apt to wander off or "not even know" her family members?? Sorry but this baffles me

    How was a woman so severely mentally ill able to get away from 4 or 5 adults and take off in a car...and why would her father who presumably knows how ill she is only get involved 5 weeks later??

    yes I do live in Florida so that is why I said "baker acted"...but it seems to me that if she was that mentally ill that they would have had her psychiatrist on hand

    what led up to the "arrest" ?? the dui?? what was her mental condition?? why were 4 or 5 people at the house..and why didn't someone stop her??

    I am sorry but things don't add up for me...

    another thing that doesn't add up is the "bogs" and water/ice holes or whatever...are they there or aren't they??

    None of US really know just what form her mental illness really took or how severe it was...we are only hearing what we hear. And...as I say, it does not add up for me


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    Quote Originally Posted by LogicalMinds View Post
    How do you know all that to be "true"???

    I did read where she was "off" her meds all during her pregnancy with no ill effects apparently...

    besides...IF a person is that "bad" mentally how can they be left alone with a baby, a toddler?? Let's not forget the famous bi-polar case of Andrea Yates.....left alone to care for all those little kids, she went into a deep depression and drowned them...(and no I realize that not all/many bipolar people do this but I am stating an example)

    IF Sarah was this "bad" off mentally why was she left alone with their child??

    either she was very mentally ill (which it seems people want to prove) OR she wasn't....if she was "that" bad off..why was she out and about and even able to drive and be caretaker of their young child??
    Sarah was not left alone with her child. She and her husband worked from home together. His mom came and helped care for Elias as well. Both families were fully aware of the support and needed assistance and were there to help. I don't know if she was on medication during her pregnancy, or not. I do know that post partum depression/psychosis can exacerbate an already existing mental condition. Hence is one of the reasons that Fritz chose to be at home.


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    Quote Originally Posted by nervous_nellie View Post
    yeah, i do. its post # 288 in the first thread...says its 280ft. across with 6ft.deep ice holes and a drainage running thru it....


    eta: but then a local drove by the mile marker and reported to us that there is NO bog in the area that fc said that there was. fc said that the local was wrong, because he went there and saw it.... funny, now we here that the local was right....

    We can only report what the State Trooper's have in their reports. The State Trooper states mile marker 140.5. There is no bog, no water. Further north at 141.5 there is a median that crosses over onto the southbound lanes. The place where Troopers sit and take radar. The Maine police/troopers are stating it was 140.5. When Fritz posted previously he and his friends went to 141.5. Hence the confusion because the tow truck driver told him 141.5. The tow truck driver, I believe, also stated a football field in length which was not accurate at all. It was maybe 30 feet from what I understand.


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    Quote Originally Posted by fhc View Post
    For reference to more of Bubba's post go to page 14 where Bubba states it is a fact that she is no more. Also, a strange word, seance. Post #330

    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...Rogers&page=14
    He is extremely distraught, as would any spouse. Elias has a birthday coming up on January 27th and that is making this more difficult as each day goes by and gets closer to Elias birthday and his mom not home yet. It's a very difficult time for all. Please continue the prayers and please...please...please...post Sarah's missing posters, banners anywhere and everywhere possible. I mailed a bunch today to a lot of the guitar and music shops ((In lower Maine and NH) just thinking if even in a confused state she may wander into one out of some kind of recognition. Nobody wants to think that she may have met foul play or had an accident. Please don't give up hope. Continue to help by getting her poster out everywhere. Time is crucial.


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