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    FL - Somer Thompson, 7, Orange Park, 19 Oct 2009 #34

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    3. Stay on topic. This thread is about Somer, not about how one should parent, how safe one feels in one's city, what one's curfew was as a teen, etc. This thread is about Somer. If you want to start a thread on another topic, go to the Jury room and start it there. This thread is about Somer.

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    Thanks Hoppy!

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    Another 'thanks' to you hoppy!
    Please think long and hard before calling a child a 'run-a-way':
    You might be giving a 'perk' to the 'perp'.


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    Quote Originally Posted by hoppyfrog View Post
    We expect all posters to follow the TOS, including but not limited to:

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    2. Do not tell other posters not to hit the alert button.

    3. Stay on topic. This thread is about Somer, not about how one should parent, how safe one feels in one's city, what one's curfew was as a teen, etc. This thread is about Somer. If you want to start a thread on another topic, go to the Jury room and start it there. This thread is about Somer.

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    When do you think we will have a press conference from LE about DNA lab results? I wonder if we can find out anything about this murder investigation.

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    ok, what have I missed here, haven't been here in a long time....anything new??
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    where is everyone? Where did everyone go??
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    Quote Originally Posted by pinamia View Post
    When do you think we will have a press conference from LE about DNA lab results? I wonder if we can find out anything about this murder investigation.
    I hope LE has a press conference about the DNA results soon too.I pray there is an arrest soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by camcneishg View Post
    ok, what have I missed here, haven't been here in a long time....anything new??
    Hi Cam:

    Here is the lastest newspaper articles for you to catch up on.

    Concern expressed for girl's safety before death
    http://www.miamiherald.com/news/flor...y/1425537.html

    Graham man whose daughter was killed in Florida concerned about report
    http://www.thetimesnews.com/news/dau...fill-ever.html
    Last edited by hoppyfrog; 01-14-2010 at 11:23 PM. Reason: inaccurate


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    well, what are we gonna talk about??
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    Quote Originally Posted by camcneishg View Post
    WOW! Is all I can say.....why can't this be discussed here? Oh there is so much here to discuss.....
    We have already been here and done this and discussed this in the last thread.Too much.We already determined the social services determined there was no basis for the report and it was unfounded and the case was closed.Many many children walk home from school.Somer was with her siblings.She was not alone.Maybe the school will think about a bus system now.It's pretty much a closed case.
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    this is the original article - the event was investigated in 2008 and closed 2 weeks later.

    * By Jim Schoettler
    * Story updated at 6:10 AM on Thursday, Jan. 14, 2010
    ORANGE PARK — A social worker at Somer Thompson’s school warned about the danger of the 7-year-old girl’s walks from school a year before a killer snatched her on her way home, state records show.

    The unidentified worker told the Department of Children and Families that Somer and her three siblings got lost at least once walking from Grove Park Elementary School and were found in woods with a stranger. The worker indicated that Somer’s mother needed to pay more attention to the children’s safety and get them into day care at the school.

    But a two-week probe by Children and Families concluded the allegation about the children getting lost and being found with a stranger had no basis. It also found Diena Thompson properly arranged for her children to be taken to and from school, about a mile away, and that it was acceptable for them to walk home when necessary. Day care was suggested to her as an option, but not a requirement.

    The case was closed without any findings of wrongdoing, according to the records provided to the Times-Union last week.

    Thompson continues to grieve over Somer’s Oct. 19 disappearance and slaying, which remains unsolved. She said that she has always cared for her children’s well-being and allowed them to walk home on rare occasions when she worked and couldn’t get them a ride. Somer disappeared on one of those days. Her siblings have received rides every day since, Thompson told the Times-Union Wednesday.
    “I’m always second-guessing myself as far as them walking home, but I did what I could as a single mother with absolutely no help from anyone else,” said Thompson, 35. “Children should be able to walk home without being afraid of being attacked by a monster.”

    Children and Families spokesman John Harrell said he couldn’t disclose by law who made the report and whether the agency had fielded other reports from Somer’s school. The school’s principal, Lynda Braxton, declined to comment.

    Harrell said the case was handled properly.

    “Our investigator did the right thing and went above and beyond ... by checking to make sure if these services were being followed up on,” Harrell said.

    The social worker called the agency’s abuse hot line on Oct. 9, 2008.

    “There is overall concern for the safety and well-being of the children,” the investigator wrote, based on the social worker’s statement.

    Thompson told the investigator she was unaware of her children ever getting lost in the woods or being found by a stranger. Somer and her older brother told the investigator they never got lost. Somer’s twin, Samuel, said he got lost once, but gave no details. Somer’s sister was never asked. Thompson said a family friend had been transporting the children and that would continue.
    Thompson also told the investigator the school suggested the children attend an off-campus YWCA day-care program. But she said it ended before she could pick them up from work and she couldn’t afford the cost of picking them up late.

    Thompson was later told the day-care program was at the school and that school officials were trying to arrange for Somer to attend for free or at a reduced rate. She said she would consider the option, though the children weren’t sent.

    A Children and Families supervisory review of the case on Oct. 12 - three days after the initial report - states that the “risk is low” and that “the children are old enough to walk to school.” It also states that if Thompson can’t afford day care, she shouldn’t be placed in a “financial bind.”

    Two weeks into the case, Thompson reiterated to the investigator that her friend was helping with transportation, “but on occasion the children still do walk,” the records show. The family friend told the investigators she had been transporting the children.

    The investigator concludes that the “risk remains low” and that Thompson had been very cooperative.

    “No services necessary at this time,” the report said.
    Thompson said she is hopeful the public will not to use the report to criticize her parenting ability, a problem she had to endure from some people after Somer’s death.

    “Walk a day in my shoes,” she said.
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    My question: Why was this given to a hot line and not LE? Children in the woods with a stranger doesn't belong with a social worker, it belongs and should be investigated by LE MY OPINION ONLY
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    Please think long and hard before calling a child a 'run-a-way':
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ms Suzanne View Post
    We have already been here and done this and discussed this in the last thread.Too much.We already determined the social services determined there was no basis for the report and it was unfounded and the case was closed.Many many children walk home from school.Somer was with her siblings.She was not alone.Maybe the school will think about a bus system now.It's pretty much a closed case.
    I cannot find the last thread! We do not know that Somer was not alone, first we hear that she was with AT and ST, then we hear that she ran ahead, then we hear that she was with AT and that ST lagged behind to talk to a friend.....we really don't know for sure what the case was....all that we do know is that she is now gone.....if she was with her siblings, then why didn't they see who took her....this tells me that she was not with her siblings....kwim?
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    I think all that we know for sure is that Somer went to school that day, left when school was out, never made it to the second crossing guard.....she then ended up in the landfill....
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    Quote Originally Posted by camcneishg View Post
    I cannot find the last thread! We do not know that Somer was not alone, first we hear that she was with AT and ST, then we hear that she ran ahead, then we hear that she was with AT and that ST lagged behind to talk to a friend.....we really don't know for sure what the case was....all that we do know is that she is now gone.....if she was with her siblings, then why didn't they see who took her....this tells me that she was not with her siblings....kwim?
    The thread was pulled for review.Yes,she ran off.No one could have known that would happen.
    Last edited by hoppyfrog; 01-14-2010 at 11:21 PM. Reason: inaccurate
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    Quote Originally Posted by camcneishg View Post
    I cannot find the last thread! We do not know that Somer was not alone, first we hear that she was with AT and ST, then we hear that she ran ahead, then we hear that she was with AT and that ST lagged behind to talk to a friend.....we really don't know for sure what the case was....all that we do know is that she is now gone.....if she was with her siblings, then why didn't they see who took her....this tells me that she was not with her siblings....kwim?
    cam- beginning way back in thread #1 it was established that Somer was walking home with her siblings, had a tiff, and ran ahead. That was always the case as I remember it. Children that age do this all the time - they get upset, if in their home, run to their bedroom or play area or in this case, run ahead of their group. Somer being upset and, therefore, vulnerable, was the perfect prey for this monster. mho
    Please think long and hard before calling a child a 'run-a-way':
    You might be giving a 'perk' to the 'perp'.


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