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Thread: NY - Heidi Allen, 18, New Haven, 3 April 1994

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    Lightbulb NY - Heidi Allen, 18, New Haven, 3 April 1994

    http://www.co.oswego.ny.us/sheriff/allen.html
    I remember this story so well. I never see anything about Heidi, decided to put a thread here for her.
    Missing Person:

    Forcible Abduction

    On Easter Sunday, April 3, 1994, 18-year-old Heidi Marie Allen was working alone as a cashier at the D&W Convenience Store, located at the intersection of State Routes 104 and 104B in the Oswego County Town of New Haven, New York State. She opened the store at about 5:45 a.m. and managed the store routinely for approximately 2 hours, with nothing out of the ordinary occurring.D&W Convenience Store

    About 7:50 a.m., a marked Oswego County Sheriff’s Department patrol unit was flagged down in the area by a citizen who reported that the convenience store was open, with lights and gas pumps on, but no one tending the business. The cashier had apparently vanished from the store. Additional Sheriff’s units were called to the scene, and an investigation commenced. Intense scrutiny revealed that the cause of her disappearance was foul play. Weeks of massive search by police, the New York State Army National Guard, the US Army 10th Mountain Division and hundreds of volunteers as well as a local and national media blitz followed with no positive results towards finding the missing woman. Even though the search results were fruitless, the intensive police investigation led to the arrests of two local brothers in the case.

    In May, 1994, Richard Thibodeau was arrested and charged with kidnapping, 1st degree in connection with the missing person case. In August of that same year, Gary Thibodeau, Richard’s brother, was also arrested and faced the same charge. Separate jury trials were held for the pair. In June, 1995, Gary was convicted of the same charge he was arrested for kidnapping, 1st degree. He was sentenced to 25 years to life in the New York State correctional system. Richard was found not guilty in September, 1995. Gary has since appealed his conviction to the New York State Supreme Court Appellate Division.
    Let's Not Forget Heidi

    On Dec. 30, 1999, the five justices who heard the case unanimously upheld the conviction, writing, “There is overwhelming evidence of defendant’s guilt.” At this time, the Oswego County Sheriff’s Department and the Federal Bureau of Investigation consider the matter to be an open case. Officers are still assigned to the investigation and continue to follow leads, hoping to find the remains of the missing woman.

    At the time of her disappearance, Heidi was described as a white female, 5’11”, 145 pounds, light brown/blond hair worn long and curly, and blue eyes. She was last seen wearing a gray sweatshirt with a plaid SU logo on the front, and white sneakers. She wore glasses or contact lenses and had pierced ears. Her date of birth was September 14, 1975.

    Anyone who may have been in the area of the convenience store at or around the time of her abduction, or anyone who has any information on the case is asked to contact the Oswego County Sheriff’s Office by e-mail, or by phone at one of the following numbers: 1-888-349-3411, 1-800-724-8477 or 315-349-3411.
    http://www.find-missing-children.org.../poster121.htm
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    Book by New Haven woman chronicles her feelings on the loss of her sister, Heidi Allen

    Lisa Buske spends about four hours each week, sitting at a desk in her New Haven home, writing on a laptop, saving the material, then going back to edit.

    She glances occasionally over her shoulder at the photograph on the wall of a teen with long, light brown hair, wearing a V-neck sweater.

    The teen in the photo — the person about whom she’s writing — is Heidi Allen. Buske’s 18-year-old sister was abducted April 3, 1994, while she worked at the C&W Convenience Store in New Haven. She was never seen seen again.

    [snip]

    Buske has endured ups and downs during the last 16 years, and now is putting it all into a book about her sister and the disappearance.

    The book, as yet untitled, deals with the thoughts and emotions of siblings of missing people. Buske is called it a “joining of thoughts and different events, some of which were important and others that weren’t.”

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    Everytime they find remains in a five state radius I think of Heidi. There was a skull found in VT in February and although it is likely someone closer to that area, I still think that it could finally be her. I grew up just about 30 minutes from Heidi and am just a few years older. I will never stop wondering where Heidi is and hoping that she is found.
    "The opinion prevailed among advanced minds that it was time that belief should be replaced increasingly by knowledge; belief that did not itself rest on knowledge was superstition, and as such had to be opposed." - Albert Einstein

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    I lived in Central New York from 1993-1995. The missing persons posters for Heidi Allen and Sarah Anne Wood are ingrained in my brain. I hope someday they find them both.

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    Yes, both of them ingrained in my head as well. Sarah was in her cheer uniform and Heidi in her V neck sweater.
    "The opinion prevailed among advanced minds that it was time that belief should be replaced increasingly by knowledge; belief that did not itself rest on knowledge was superstition, and as such had to be opposed." - Albert Einstein

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    Whose missing person poster had them in a Guess sweatshirt?

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    for Heidi, missing 19 years this month.

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    A passerby flagged down a sheriff's patrol unit outside the store at approximately 8:15 a.m. and reported that the business was open but unattended. An extensive search produced few clues as to Allen's whereabouts and she has never been heard from again.
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    Hope at center of ride for missing children

    http://www.uticaod.com/features/x907...ssing-children
    No temptation has overtaken you except what is common to mankind. And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted, he will also provide a way out so that you can endure it. - 1 Corinthians 10:13 (NIV)

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikkismom View Post
    Hope at center of ride for missing children

    http://www.uticaod.com/features/x907...ssing-children
    From mikkismom's link above:

    “I’ve cried a lot in the last week,” said Buske, a New Haven resident whose sister, Heidi Allen, went missing on April 3, 1994. The image that hit Buske the hardest was seeing Amanda Berry embrace her sister.
    So sad.
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    Does anyone know what came of the brother Richard Thibodeau who got away with aiding to abduct and murder this poor girl? He just went on to live a normal life amongst society, women and children? Am I reading that correctly?

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    Woman whose sister has been missing for 28 years helps sister of Heidi Allen, missing for 19 years



    http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.s...idi_allen.html
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    http://oswegocountytoday.com/heidi-a...ssage-of-hope/
    Posted on January 25, 2014

    OSWEGO, NY – Local author and speaker Lisa M. Buske recently traveled to San Antonio, Texas, to speak at The Heidi Search Center’s annual banquet.
    This wasn’t Buske’s first interaction with the HSC. Crystal Calloway, director of HSC in San Antonio, left, greets Lisa Buske, author and speaker, Heidi Allen’s older sister. Their relationship began in April 1994 – when the center sent a search and rescue expert to join the search for Buske’s sister, Heidi M. Allen.
    Allen was kidnapped from the D & W Convenience Store while working alone on Easter Sunday, April 3, 1994. Allen remains missing today, but her family remains hopeful.
    more at link

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    People still remember disappearance of Heidi Allen after 20 years
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    Heidi and her disappearance still affects people throughout New Haven and other parts of Oswego County to this day. Many will gather April 3 at the New Haven Fire Department to remember Heidi, share stories and light candles. In those 20 years, two trials were held. Brothers Richard and Gary Thibodeau were arrested and charged with kidnapping Heidi. Separate trials were held – Richard was found not guilty, Gary was found guilty. Gary, now 60, is serving 25 years to life in the Clinton Correctional Facility in Dannemora, Clinton County. His scheduled release date is May 19, 2020, according to state prison records.
    NCMEC and OCSD will also be joining friends and family at the Community Gathering of Hope on 4/3/2014.

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    http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.s...incart_m-rpt-2

    Where's Heidi Allen?

    It's perhaps the most vexing mystery in Oswego County history. The New Haven store clerk vanished without a trace 20 years ago this week.

    Her disappearance resulted in a controversial outcome: Gary Thibodeau guilty of kidnapping, Richard Thibodeau innocent, even though authorities believe they acted together.
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    I’ve gone to look for myself. If I should return before I get back, keep me here.
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    http://www.cnycentral.com/news/story...0#.U9GQ5PldUqt

    In a nutshell, a guy in prison claims that he killed Heidi and hid her body under the floor boards of a cabin in the woods. He is in prison for killing his estranged wife and her boyfriend. There is no credible evidence or proof of him having any part in Heidi's abduction. I personally don't believe he is involved but of course all information should be investigated. I just don't see a wife/bf killer as the same type of criminal as the kind that abducts and kills an 18 yo girl. I hope that I am wrong so that she can finally be brought home to her family but I am afraid that this is just some kind of sick ploy.
    "The opinion prevailed among advanced minds that it was time that belief should be replaced increasingly by knowledge; belief that did not itself rest on knowledge was superstition, and as such had to be opposed." - Albert Einstein

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    http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.s..._her_home.html

    An Oswego County woman, unaware that investigators were listening, said in a phone conversation last year that three men brought kidnapping victim Heidi Allen to her home 20 years ago.

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    Wow! Well that transcript really changes things.
    "The opinion prevailed among advanced minds that it was time that belief should be replaced increasingly by knowledge; belief that did not itself rest on knowledge was superstition, and as such had to be opposed." - Albert Einstein

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    http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.s...ite_where.html

    An investigator searching for the body of 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen today found a second collapsed cabin where Allen may be buried, but it appeared the site had recently been disturbed by someone...

    It is clear that someone recently went to a lot of effort to dig up the floor of the collapsed cabin, said Richard Haumann, an investigator with the Federal Public Defenders Office. Haumann said that is a significant development because a man has allegedly admitted that he helped kill Allen and bury her dismembered body in the floor of a cabin in those same woods...

    "Someone made an extensive effort looking for something," he said. "The evidence that someone dug up the flooring is pieces of wood and other debris on top of green foliage. That's very unusual."

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    http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.s...allens_re.html

    A state police cadaver dog this morning went over the site of a collapsed Oswego County cabin looking for the remains of 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen.

    No remains were found at the site south of Rice Road in the town of Mexico, District Attorney Greg Oakes said in an interview near the scene. But at his request, the Onondaga County Medical Examiner's Office will conduct a forensic dig at the cabin tomorrow, Oakes said...

    The search was called off shortly before 11 a.m. today because the rain was making it too difficult, he said. A sheriff's deputy will sit in his patrol car on Rice Road today and overnight to secure the site, Oakes said.

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    http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.s...in_mexico.html

    Forensic investigators and Oswego County sheriff's deputies converged this morning on a site in the woods of Mexico to search a collapsed cabin for the remains of 1994 kidnapping victim Heidi Allen...

    It's the second day of the search at the cabin, which appeared to have been recently disturbed when the federal investigator and the journalists arrived Sunday.

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    I really want this new search to be the answer!

    http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.s...l#incart_river

    MEXICO, N.Y. -- The key witness in an investigation into new allegations about the 1994 Heidi Allen kidnapping pleaded with a friend Sunday evening to not tell anyone she ever lived near a cabin that authorities had started searching for Allen's remains.
    "The opinion prevailed among advanced minds that it was time that belief should be replaced increasingly by knowledge; belief that did not itself rest on knowledge was superstition, and as such had to be opposed." - Albert Einstein

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    I was traveling through mexico, NY today for work so I took a minor detour past the search area. Lots of news trucks and LE vehicles up and down the road. Can't really see into the woods or anything but there is definitely a lot of activity. Praying for Heidi's family and friends today.
    "The opinion prevailed among advanced minds that it was time that belief should be replaced increasingly by knowledge; belief that did not itself rest on knowledge was superstition, and as such had to be opposed." - Albert Einstein

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    if this new information leads to the recovery of Heidi's remains, does that mean the man in jail for 19 years was potentially innocent?

    Also, there are several articles on syracuse.com where a women JW is recorded saying that 3 other men, not GT, kidnapped Heidi, beat her and buried her dismembered remains under a cabin...

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    Here is the secretly recorded call between JW & TP, where TP leads JW into admitting she was there and knew it was Heidi they brought to her home that day. They say it is about cocaine.
    http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.s..._her_home.html

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    I live fairly local to this investigation. I have been following it since the day Heidi disappeared. If this new info turns out to be accurate then yes, an innocent man spent almost 20 years in jail. It disgusts me that all of these people knew for all of these years. It also means that one immediate phone call could have saved Heidi's life.
    "The opinion prevailed among advanced minds that it was time that belief should be replaced increasingly by knowledge; belief that did not itself rest on knowledge was superstition, and as such had to be opposed." - Albert Einstein

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