Reporter: How can you be sure your baby is alive?
Elizabeth: Uh, because when I left him with these people. I trusted them.
Elizabeth: What do you mean, “why?” I believed in my heart that they were good people…….. They reached out to me and seemed like they cared. I met them in San Antonio. They approached me. I was out alone with the baby at the park. I was upset. I was crying.
Reporter: In other words, you really don’t know if your son is alive or not?
Elizabeth: (after a long pause) Um, I know that he is. I believe that he is.
Elizabeth: I mean, I’m in jail. How could I know anything?
Reporter: Do you understand how serious this is that right now, because you said you killed your son….You are telling us now that you don’t know who has him or where he is. Do you know how serious this looks against you?
Elizabeth: I really don’t. I did the same thing with giving the baby away to Tammi….
Reporter: You REALLY don’t understand?….
Elizabeth: I mean, when you give up your child for adoption you don’t really know where the people live or anything.
Disclaimer: All posts are my own humble opinion. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts.
Justice for Caylee
It is so frustrating for you guys to listen to people talk and know they are wrong or misrepresenting something. Feel free to email me to give me any pointers you have to offer. I am all ears. Or eyes I guess it would be in this case.
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Livor Mortis (discoloration)
Livor mortis is the settling of blood. It is also called Hypostasis. When the heart stops, the blood stops circulating and gravity makes it settle. This makes the areas where the blood has settled turn dark blue or purple. This starts happening immediately and is visible with a couple of hours. At this point skin is bluish and blotchy. After five or six hours the blotches have joined up but the skin still goes white when pressed. After ten to twelve hours the blue colour remains even when pressed.
The lividity doesn't show where the body is in contact with something. This a body lying on its back will show lividity in the small of its back, its neck etc but not is parts of the body directly touching the ground. This a very useful when determining if a body has been moved after death. With some poisons the discoloration is different. Carbon Monoxide, for example, turns the skin cherry pink.
I have seen this myself, as I lost my oldest child to SIDS many years ago. What really bothers me too though is IF she did what she said she had done in that text and IF what she said about the baby being blue was true..that would not only mean the worst case scenario, but she would have had to have him 'with her' for at least 3,4 or more hours to have even seen that.I'm just having some really bad thoughts. I get the feeling that Logan took her threats seriously and truly believe that Gabriel was in mortal danger, thus the emergency hearing. ..
(sorry guys, I know many don't believe that's what happened and I pray that it's not, but it really does have to be considered. This just is not looking too good for Baby Gabe, as heartbreaking as that would be.
We have to think like Eliz and what would Eliz do?
She's not mother material as said, things are not going her way,
she wants a new life, she is raging inside, the Smith's are hounding her.
She Tylenol's Gabriel so he sleeps etc. Allot? To much? He's sick?
Teething? Crying? and she has had it....................
Her nerves are on end.......
What would the easy thing to do?
What would Eliz do?
Would she do what is best for Gabriel? in her mind.........
Last edited by passionflower; 01-18-2010 at 12:49 AM. Reason: tired wrong name........nite!
Kyron, HALEIGH, ADJI & Gabriel NEEDS PRAYERS NOW TO FIND THEM!. Zahra & Jonathan in heaven
Justice for Hailey!!!!
No Justice for Caylee Marie..........
the Texas Hill Country is within 30 mintues of downtown San Antonio. We have a deer lease in D'Hanis, Texas. The area is full of ranches. Homes sitting on 1000+ acres. The closest neighbor to our lease is three miles and that's on the same private dirt road. the hill country is known for it's deer hunting. If someone met her in San Antonio and live somewhere in the hill country they could be hiding out in their ranch home, and never be suspected.
I looked up falsifying documents and mere falsification is already a felony
Trisha, you are right about people trying to sell their babies for next to nothing. There was a couple not to long ago in Pensacola, Florida who tried to sell their baby in a store parking lot for less than $100.00 (I'm pretty sure it was less than $100.00 and think it was even less than that. You can google it I'm sure)!
If I may answer that first callers question...LOL
You are qualified because you have a heart, the heart it takes to run a forum with so much sadness day in and day out..
Anyone with less than a heart would ask that question....and that is JMHO..
I am still debating how to feel about the Smiths..
I don't agree with anything they have done to this point, but something is nudging at me to keep thinking that EJ has used them just the way she intended since Logan broke up with her in December.. Either they made her story (which I think is a complete lie) more believable without knowing her true plans, or they orchestrated everything and are desperately trying to cover their rears...
I wanted to say again... at this point I am not sure if I am leaning more toward him being alive or dead.
But if he is alive I think that the Smiths have something to do with it and that the connection to TN, including the sightings, agencies, Janet and Tammi mentioning putting her up in that house.... I think that would be the price of him.... a house.