I won't ever stop praying for Gabriel until he's found. But I'm having a really hard time keeping up hope for him to be found alive this morning. I keep going back and forth on whether or not I think he's alive. I don't know why I'm so down about it today. Just the tiniest mention of him, or thought of him brings tears to my eyes. This little boy has captured my heart and I can't stop following this case until I know what's happened to him. But this one is killing me. I think about baby Gabe everytime I look at my own 8 1/2 month old son, and it breaks my heart over and over again. I just don't understand how a mother could say she killed her little baby or hand him away to people she doesn't even know (or barely knows). I keep looking at the pictures of Gabe in the hotel, and wondering if Elizabeth loved on him and spent quality time with him there, knowing she wouldn't see him again. Did she take the pictures, knowing they would be her last memento's of him (whether he's alive or not)? But then I remind myself that she doesn't seem to feel the way about her child that I feel about mine. I'm having a hard time reconciling those very different feelings. And I get so angry. Gabe looks like such a sweet, funny little baby boy. I'm so angry for what's happened to him. Even if he's found alive and brought back to his daddy, someday he will know this happened to him. My heart's just broken.
I'm still praying for you baby boy. God watch over you and bring you home safe.
Last edited by NewMommy09; 01-18-2010 at 10:43 AM.
Bring the Missing Home!!!
Find Kara Kopetsky!!!
God watch over baby Gabriel Johnson
"I may have been to hell and back, but I am strong enough to walk through hell
with a smile on my face and with my head held high and my feet firmly on
the ground." - Michelle Knight
I will look for it online later, too. My daughter told me that LE was saying there is now a homicide investigation because they have no idea where to go with the case.
Morning NewMommy, Everybody,
I know exactly how you feel! It tears my heart out that every day he is still missing the likelihood of finding a happy and well baby Gabriel decreases. I think what really did it for me was the interview with the hotel babysitter. I believe in my heart that EJ started off on the run with some help and or plan from the Smith's, something went haywire and then she just lost it and did something horrible to him. I sadly believe that she did not expect Logan to run to the police with the text message and it may have just been the straw that broke the camels back. JMHO
I knew the very first time I saw the Smiths that something was off about them. They are involved I believe in other schemes and crimes etc. IMO
I am still holding out some hope, and praying for him every day! Where is Gabriel?
I am not a firm believer that every woman should have kids. Some people aren't meant to have a child. Not all are crazy, that's just the way it is. A lot of experts tend to think that there is some miracle experience that happens once you have a baby and poof you are a loving nuturing mom. No, I disagree. IMO being a mother is not just a natural process. It's more than that. You have to want to have a kid. Personally, when I was younger I didn't want a child at all! Really, I could probably go my whole life and not have kids. I never heard my biological clock ticking.
I'm pregnant now, but my husband loves children so here I am preggers. I'm 33. Not all women want or need to be mothers. Our society has beat motherhood into our brains and that idea has allowed crazy, unfit, horrible parents to get chance after chance to mistreat their kids.
IMO bio parenrs have all the rights until abuse or neglect settles in. After that, all rights need to be terminated. Also more education about birth control and more empasis on adoption or abortion. If you don't want a kid don't get pregnant. It's that easy.
Rest in Peace John 08/09/86-04/24/2014.
Husband, father and son. I miss you and so does your son.
Are they doing this to put the pressure on Elizabeth and hopefully Tammi?
As far as Elizabeth's lawyer why haven't they made some kind of deal?
Thinking with my fingers, could Tammi have this baby some where, Elizabeth did everything that Tammi told her to do because if not Gabe was going to be hurt, now EJ is taking the fall because she is afraid that Gabe will be hurt if not? I mean I understand she had fits of rage and made threats, but did she really HATE the kid. If she is bipolar how much of those fits and threats had to do with that?
I have also been thinking that if she killed Gabe during a fit or whatever I don't think she would have just given him a large dose of medicine (as we have talked about). It would have taken to long. She would have done something spir of the moment like Andrea Yates did, drowned five children in the bathtub. And when they do that don't they normally feel some kind of remorse after the fact and make a phone call trying to get help?
Just a thought.
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Smith said, "Because it's not a truth detector, it's a lie detector. I did not lie, and so that's why it came back inconclusive."
So they charge her with murder, point to those statements, and her defense would have to come with some huge magic.
Hopefully no matter the charges, she'll confess what she did with Gabriel, no matter what that was, in return for a plea deal.
It's more important to me that he be found, and that we know what happened to him, than that she get the most severe punishment possible.
Good morning, friends. Just logging in. Don't know if this has already been posted. If so, I apologise.
Baby Gabriel Was 'Acting Scared'
Babysitter Says Something Wasn't Right as New Photos of Gabriel Released
Jan. 18, 2010
ETA: There's a video on the homepage. I can't seem to get a direct link. It's about the middle of the page:
They interviewed Eliz on the phone, although no audio of it
Last edited by BeanE; 01-18-2010 at 11:21 AM.
A confession, especially a murder confession has to accompanied by evidence, or they can't even bring it up. That is my understanding anyway, so there has to be something for evidence for murder charges. However, her confession is enough to start the murder investigation.
EDIT: I agree. If he comes home, I am happy to let the system sort it all out from there.
Last edited by not_my_kids; 01-18-2010 at 11:20 AM.
JMO. Unless there's a link, I can't prove it.
In that GMA video, they say that they talked to Eliz, and she told them she stands by her story that she gave Gabriel to the couple as described to Tammi.
I was talking to a friend that happens to be an attorney, he had NG on in the background and I asked if he was following the case, and he said he was. He's the one that said that without some evidence, the confession means nothing. He could be wrong, or I could have misunderstood. (He starts to speak lawyer and my eyes glaze over...)
So, admittedly, I am just parroting what I was told as far as the confession.
I just want Gabriel to come home, this whole thing is ridiculous. I am starting to fear that the plan was for him to stay hidden and maybe none of the players we are seeing now actually know where he went from the hotel. That prospect doesn't seem to bother any of them,either.
JMO. Unless there's a link, I can't prove it.
Sorry if I missed this, but would someone please confirm or deny for me the new report that the Smith's FAILED their polygraphs?
I thought it was initially reported that the tests came back "inconclusive."
There are so many patterns and way too many coincidences for me to say that this woman does not thave more to do with Gabe's disappearance than she's admitting to--
I really believe that by putting pressure on her LE can find out which direction to go to look for Gabriel
Can we believe anything she says?
TAMMI SMITH: I had a friend in Nashville that works with attorneys call her and plea to her to come back here to Arizona to court on Monday. I had my attorney call her and plea to her to come back here and go to court on that Monday, so — yes.
Last edited by BeanE; 01-18-2010 at 11:48 AM.
Okay I'm all caught up.
I would like to officially announce that I no longer have a clue in Hades wth is going on in this case.
All I know is that I want to know what happened to Gabriel, and atm, I'm feeling like I have to go back to the beginning and start all over again. Either that or get a colonic.
Police investigate online posting claiming 'Baby Gabriel' was adopted
Last Update: 9:07 am
Well the TPS records indicate to me that at no time did her ex "hide" her children from her. They still live right in the same neighbourhood.
Kind of makes that book she's writing pointless doesn't it?
Oh and the Louisiana DSS still wants their money too TPS. You should send them a cheque asap.
.... ....... My posts are my opinion, only.
If, for some reason, they were lying about the age of the baby, were not visited by LE but only questioned by phone and they did adopt a baby on Jan. 1st., that's pretty unusual to be adopting on New Year's Day when everyone is on holiday and with their families. It would also indicate that the people that picked up Gabriel were just that.....the pickup intermediaries and the transfer to the adopting couple didn't take place until Jan. 1st.
This info regarding the WI couple has been out there for a while. I'm at a loss as to whether or not they investigated them properly some days ago.
My posts are my opinion only.....