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    NV - Steven T. Koecher, 30, Henderson, 13 Dec 2009 - # 4

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    OK-decision made by hoppy to start anew-let's bring over anything we need for reference...
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    We usually like new threads when the old one is about 20 pages long.
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    NIC #: M058555154


    Last Name: Koecher
    First Name: Steven T
    Age: 30
    Gender: Male
    Height: 5'10
    Weight: 180
    Eyes: Blue
    Hair: Blonde
    Complexion: Fair
    Race: White
    Date of last contact: 12/13/2009

    Steven is from ST George UTAH. He was last seen on surveillance video striding away from his vehicle which was parked in a cul de sac in Sun City Anthem, Henderson NV. On Friday, December 11, 2009 at 3PM he assisted two juveniles who were locked out of their home in the St. George area. Between December 11 and December 13 he held two cell phone conversations with friends indicating that he was in the Henderson area. His car was discovered on December 15, 2009 still parked in the cul de sac.

    Steven had recently started a window washing job part time and had been handing out flyers. His last financial transaction was on Saturday December 12th when he purchased Christmas gifts at a Kmart in St George.

    Here are some links to media and other sites that have been helping to draw attention to Steven's case-perhaps we can draw some of the traffic on the Susan Powell thread to this one to help energize this investigation!!

    http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gi...5012614&ref=nf
    http://juljef7.blogspot.com/
    http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_14064989
    http://www.deseretnews.com/article/7...ing-Utahn.html
    http://www.fox5vegas.com/news/22053714/detail.html?taf=vegas


    Thread number one is here:
    NV - Steven T Koecher, Missing Dec 13 Henderson - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community
    Thread number two is here:
    NV-Steven T Koecher Missing Dec 13 Henderson, #2 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

    Thread number three is here:
    NV-Steven T. Koecher, 30, Henderson MSG 13 Dec 09 thread #3 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community
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    Scenario being discussed in previous thread:

    Okay...so one possible scenario is:

    Steven had previously been to this neighborhood and was walking to a specific home.

    That home was not located on the west side (security camera side)of Evening Lights nor was it the first home on the east side (corner of Savannah & EL).

    harleysnana brings up a couple of valid points:

    There are cars parked on the street in front of houses.

    The layout of the streets and where the cul-de-sacs are located
    and the fact that he did not park on the street in front of
    a house suggest he either was told not to park in front
    of the house, or he was going to meet someone and leave
    in their car and be gone a while.

    As does Chili Fries:

    "Some neighbors are very serious about not letting people park in front of their house, especially if it happens all the time. If whatever house Steven was visiting consistently had overflow parking so their guests had to park in front of neighbors yards then the neighbors could have gotten sick of it and said no more. Steven's car was parked at the closest area to Evening Lights which is not in front of a house."


    First thing that strikes me is "be gone for a while"......If he was told by a resident of that community to park there for this reason then it be logical to think that resident would not want Steven's car parked there beyond a reportable time. Founding out the policy, ie number of days without being moved, for reporting an "abandoned" car in that community might give us an idea of the length of time Steven was expected to be gone.

    Again, this is a scenario.....it is not fact

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    Continuing on with this one possible scenario......somethings that need checking out are:

    Parking policy of the community re days a car can be parked before it can be reported. If Steven was told to park there by a resident of the community then that info will give us some idea of when the resident expected Steven to return. And if any parking complaints were filed by a resident of that area over the past year-six months.

    Info on the 4 houses on the east side of Evening Lights. Were they owner occupied, vacant, house rentals or room within a house rentals?

    Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - NV-Steven T. Koecher, 30, Henderson MSG 13 Dec 09 thread #3
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    Also, as long as we are summarizing, as per family there was no church or business purpose for this trip to Henderson. Actually, I think the 'boss' at the window washing place confirmed he did not solicit business in Henderson, NV.

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    Possible new idea

    Has anyone taken into account the possibility of meeting somebody on the nearby golf course? There is a path leading there at the end of Evening Lights (see Google Maps).

    Someone with dishonorable intentions could pose as a potential employer, or old friend, or whatever, and meet Steven at the golf course, leaving an easy route to exit the neighborhood via a different route, or even enter a nearby neighborhood through the golf course.

    It may be interesting to note the nearest entrances to the golf courses from other streets, and question residents that live closest to these entrances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nomoreink View Post
    Has anyone taken into account the possibility of meeting somebody on the nearby golf course? There is a path leading there at the end of Evening Lights (see Google Maps).

    Someone with dishonorable intentions could pose as a potential employer, or old friend, or whatever, and meet Steven at the golf course, leaving an easy route to exit the neighborhood via a different route, or even enter a nearby neighborhood through the golf course.

    It may be interesting to note the nearest entrances to the golf courses from other streets, and question residents that live closest to these entrances.
    That is what I was thinking, and like I said, those paths go everywhere in that area. Me and my friend used to walk all over and get lost for hours walking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NicoleinVegas View Post
    That is what I was thinking, and like I said, those paths go everywhere in that area. Me and my friend used to walk all over and get lost for hours walking.
    I have never had a job interview on a golf course. While I have never golfed, I would think two men walking around a golf course, without clubs, just might look a little suspicious?

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    Hi Capoly...Sorry to respond to your question so late. SesameStreet.com won in the "Ella House" today.

    To be honest I hadn't quite thought about the way and where he crossed the street. But you make a great point. Would someone not familiar with the area cross there? Not sure I am going to review the tapes again, it has been awile.

    My thoughts when we first got the tape was that he was there for a specific purpose and knew where he was going. I do think he looks like he's "trying" to not be noticed though (almost like he's "up to something"). To me, that is why he parked a way from where he was actually going.

    Another thought I had on the parking spot was that it was more of a self conscience issue. He may not have wanted someone to see what he drove or what it looked like inside if he had a ton of stuff in his car i.e. several coats. I think someone else brought that up early on too.


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    Just saw this Craigslist post. Sorry if it's already been posted.

    http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/com/1562384446.html

    I think it's a great idea. Does anyone know who set this up? Who do replies go to? Do we know if any results have come out of it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by webrocket View Post
    I have never had a job interview on a golf course. While I have never golfed, I would think two men walking around a golf course, without clubs, just might look a little suspicious?
    Anyone know if Steven golfed at all? Hubby is a huge golfer. I could definitely see him conducting a 2nd or 3rd interview on the golf course. However, that is for higher paying professional jobs. I don't think Steven would fall into that category. Could be possible he was meeting someone for lunch at golf course and not actually golfing. But, I think if he was going to do business at a golf course he would have parked in the parking lot.

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    I think that the golfing theory could be one to look into. He was a journalist, & I have known business men meet up to discuss things on the golf course whether all of them were playing golf or not wasn't an issue (I think it's kind of a man thing to walk around with clubs talking LOL). The lunch idea is fantastic also. Like someone said maybe he parked where he parked as he didn't want anyone to see what he was driving. Great ideas guys .
    Ella's mom is it you gathering questions or Laytonian? Can we ask if Steven ever played golf? or if LE or others investigating have talked to the golf course/restaurant people?

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    adnoid - Oh I was meaning that some of the men played while discussing business & a couple just walked the course with them discussing business....
    Thanks adnoid

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    Popping back in to say that I think the golf course idea is well worth looking into. Even if parking elsewhere seems strange, I have done just this sort of thing when I wanted to impress someone (My car, alas, while acceptable on the outside looks like a trash heap on the inside. My ex-husband would hum the "Sanford & Son" theme if he ever had to get in!) If his car was filled with coats and other things, he might not want a potential employer to think he was living in his car.

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