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    The Craigslist Ads

    The Craigslist ads posted by Elizabeth were posted here by momtective:

    [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4718730"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - AZ-Gabriel Johnson, 8 months, MSG 26 Dec 09 thread #15[/ame]


    AZlawyer connected the phone number in the ads directly to Elizabeth in this post:

    [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4718819"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - AZ-Gabriel Johnson, 8 months, MSG 26 Dec 09 thread #15[/ame]

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    Have we ever found the ad for Elizabeth selling her laptop?
    There is always HOPE!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NewMommy09 View Post
    Have we ever found the ad for Elizabeth selling her laptop?
    I haven't seen anything on her laptop or jewelry.

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    This was just posted on TS's FB this past Saturday, but when I tried to click on the actual link, it showed it was "expired". Anyone else want to try to get to the actual ad, alleging it's still there? VERY interesting! Here is what the original poster copied from the page:

    Amazing what you can buy from Craigslist

    Loving couple hopes to adopt a baby (Fort Worth)
    Date: 2009-12-26, 3:36PM CST
    Reply to: comm-prfpg-1520463333@craigslist.org [Errors when replying to ads?]

    A loving couple in their 30's has been persistant in their attempts to adopt for 6 years now. The adoption agency that they wer......e going through, went bankrupt and most of the money and time that was spent during the process was lost. They are highly qualified to care for a child and carry the warmth in their hearts to show them more love and encouragment, than anyone could imagine. They are seeking someone who is in a difficult situation and is looking for a safe and loving home for their child. There are benifits of contacting someone directly as opposed to an adoption agency: If the child is unborn, all medical bills will be paid for. This couple would be blessed with a child instantly rather than waiting an additional 6 years to adopt. They are open to sharing photos and corresponding with the biological mother. You would be giving this family an incredible gift! If you or someone you know is searching for a family to bless with the gift of life please respond to this ad. If you are interested in finding out more about this couple, they are more than happy to connect with you in any way.

    Location: Fort Worth
    it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests

    PostingID: 1520463333

    http://dallas.craigslist.org/ftw/vnn/1520463333.html

    From Facebook post:

    http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?....2191214849..1
    Last edited by TearsforCaylee; 01-26-2010 at 05:56 PM. Reason: Post date was incorrect

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    Anyone know what the sub-category acronym /vnn/ stands for in Craig's List ads? Can't find the section listing that shows /vnn/ anywhere there, but it is in the original address ad link

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    Quote Originally Posted by TearsforCaylee View Post
    Anyone know what the sub-category acronym /vnn/ stands for in Craig's List ads? Can't find the section listing that shows /vnn/ anywhere there, but it is in the original address ad link
    looks like news and views... under community, under local news

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    Quote Originally Posted by TearsforCaylee View Post
    This was just posted on TS's FB this past Saturday, but when I tried to click on the actual link, it showed it was "expired". Anyone else want to try to get to the actual ad, alleging it's still there? VERY interesting! Here is what the original poster copied from the page:

    Amazing what you can buy from Craigslist

    Loving couple hopes to adopt a baby (Fort Worth)
    Date: 2009-12-26, 3:36PM CST
    Reply to: comm-prfpg-1520463333@craigslist.org [Errors when replying to ads?]

    A loving couple in their 30's has been persistant in their attempts to adopt for 6 years now. The adoption agency that they wer......e going through, went bankrupt and most of the money and time that was spent during the process was lost. They are highly qualified to care for a child and carry the warmth in their hearts to show them more love and encouragment, than anyone could imagine. They are seeking someone who is in a difficult situation and is looking for a safe and loving home for their child. There are benifits of contacting someone directly as opposed to an adoption agency: If the child is unborn, all medical bills will be paid for. This couple would be blessed with a child instantly rather than waiting an additional 6 years to adopt. They are open to sharing photos and corresponding with the biological mother. You would be giving this family an incredible gift! If you or someone you know is searching for a family to bless with the gift of life please respond to this ad. If you are interested in finding out more about this couple, they are more than happy to connect with you in any way.

    Location: Fort Worth
    it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests

    PostingID: 1520463333

    http://dallas.craigslist.org/ftw/vnn/1520463333.html

    From Facebook post:

    http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?....2191214849..1
    So then, who is this ad from?? Do we know? I'm just curious, while interesting, is it like all the other adoption ads on CL? Just random people, or is there a connection?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ives View Post
    So then, who is this ad from?? Do we know? I'm just curious, while interesting, is it like all the other adoption ads on CL? Just random people, or is there a connection?
    I have no idea who the actual ad was from (if in fact it's actually real). That's the mystery but according to the posting date on TS's FB page, (posted by one of the posters there, not TS herself) the date shows 12-26-09! That's the same date the last known pics of GJ were taken in the hotel and the day before EJ got on the bus from SA to Daytona.

    I don't know what the deal is ... the post showed up on TS's page on Saturday (just a few days ago) and I just noticed it today. When I tried clicking on the link posted in it, it showed the post had "expired". Now that is just hinky, all things considered. If it was posted on 12-16, and today is only 12-26 ... that's just a little over a month that it was up, if it was only recently taken down. I don't know how long it had been up before it had "expired". I hope LE checks into this nonetheless. In cases like this, leave no stone unturned. The coincidence between the ad posting and the date, GJ's last pics, etc is just surreal ... I hope maybe this is the lead that yields fruit somehow and that LE looks into it. I'm sure they can get the original ad and the poster's original info from Craig's List somehow.

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    I saw that on her fb, but didn't think too much of it -- but now I'm intrigued.

    I wonder if it's possible to track anything via the posting ID.
    100 years from now, it won't matter what kind of car you drove or how big your house was. What will matter is that you were important in the eyes of a child.


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    Quote Originally Posted by YellowSubmarine View Post
    I saw that on her fb, but didn't think too much of it -- but now I'm intrigued.

    I wonder if it's possible to track anything via the posting ID.
    There's even an email to reply to. Granted, it's a cragslist email but they should be able to tell police who that email address is attached to via the ads.
    My posts are my opinion only.....


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    Quote Originally Posted by Baznme View Post
    There's even an email to reply to. Granted, it's a cragslist email but they should be able to tell police who that email address is attached to via the ads.
    Yes, they should. And craigslist can probably provide LE with an IP address which will take them to the computer that created it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Concernedmomarizona View Post
    Yes, they should. And craigslist can probably provide LE with an IP address which will take them to the computer that created it.
    Should this be called into the tipline?
    My posts are my opinion only.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baznme View Post
    Should this be called into the tipline?
    I would think so. I can't view it but definitely this is something I would think they would be interested in. Its bizarre wrt the timing of the post etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baznme View Post
    Should this be called into the tipline?
    Yes, please. LE has asked that people call in tips, even if you think it's not important, even if you think somebody else might have already called it in.

    They said tips are critical to them right now.

    Thanks! :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by TearsforCaylee View Post
    I have no idea who the actual ad was from (if in fact it's actually real). That's the mystery but according to the posting date on TS's FB page, (posted by one of the posters there, not TS herself) the date shows 12-26-09! That's the same date the last known pics of GJ were taken in the hotel and the day before EJ got on the bus from SA to Daytona.

    I don't know what the deal is ... the post showed up on TS's page on Saturday (just a few days ago) and I just noticed it today. When I tried clicking on the link posted in it, it showed the post had "expired". Now that is just hinky, all things considered. If it was posted on 12-16, and today is only 12-26 ... that's just a little over a month that it was up, if it was only recently taken down. I don't know how long it had been up before it had "expired". I hope LE checks into this nonetheless. In cases like this, leave no stone unturned. The coincidence between the ad posting and the date, GJ's last pics, etc is just surreal ... I hope maybe this is the lead that yields fruit somehow and that LE looks into it. I'm sure they can get the original ad and the poster's original info from Craig's List somehow.
    I think this is something definitely worth investigating. Very good sleuthing on your part. Maybe this is how TS was communicating with Elizabeth.

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