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    Quote Originally Posted by Susan1 View Post
    I was in the 13126 area code for years. Do you remember this one?
    http://www.law.capital.edu/News/Arch...0327Armani.asp
    Frank Armani, Esq., wrote a book, "Privileged Information", about Robert Garrow, Syracuse serial killer who told him where 2 bodies were hidden. He went and saw the bodies, but due to lawyer / client privileged communication, he kept quiet about it. The crime had already been committed in the past. It was not a current ongoing or future crime. When it came out that his law firm knew, they attempted to have him disbarred. People were outraged that he would let the parents just have to wonder where their children were when he knew the whole time. But his duty to his client compelled him to keep the secret.
    Eventually he won that case and the book was used in law schools as a text for teaching ethics and privileged information.
    I was a product of the 80's.. this was a little before my time.. but you bet I'll be looking for that book now.. thanks!
    R.I.P Jenni-Lyn Watson


    "The test of the morality of a society is what it does for its children." ~Dietrich Bonhoeffer
    "From the deepest desires often come the deadliest hate." ~Socrates


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    The following timeline is based on information from Polk County sheriff's office, news articles from Lakeland Ledger, and court documents.
    AMP = American Medical Professionals PEO S&A = Shakespeare & Associates

    11/30/09 Moore tells The Ledger she had way to contact Abraham up until storm of media attention caused by missing-person report. For months prior to 11/09/09, Moore had been in contact with The Ledger, saying she could set up an interview with the elusive millionaire.

    11/09/09 Cedric Edom (cousin) reports him missing at approximately 9:00 am to Polk County sheriff's office. Edom has adamantly insisted to The Ledger that he didn't report Abraham missing.

    10/00/09 Howard Stitzel told The Ledger that the last time he talked to his client was in October when they discussed child support issues. Stitzel said Abraham didn't sound distressed during their phone conversation. "I firmly believe he's alive," Stitzel said. "I firmly believe he's hiding because he doesn't want to be found."

    09/00/09 Abraham's mother receives a call while at work; caller ID shows Abraham's cell phone number. She returns the call and it goes straight into voicemail.

    08/00/09 Cedric Edom hand-delivers card with a cross and $100 inside to Abraham's mother. She recognizes signature on card, but said Edom doesn't tell her how he got the card.

    00/00/09 Moore and a woman who has power of attorney tell Abraham's mother she would see her son in August. Date of this meeting is unknown.

    05/06/09 Another series of mortgage transactions are filed with Polk County. Howard Stitzel/attorney prepares documents dating them 1/15/09. Some have Abraham's printed signature; they have notary date of 4/3/09.

    04/00/09 Abraham was last seen in early April per LE.

    04/01/09 A series of Assignment of Mortgage documents are prepared by Howard Stitzel/attorney transferring all mortgage loans/promissary notes to AMP. Abraham's printed signature is on documents; notarized by Linda Kickliter (Moore's nail technician).

    04/00/09 Abraham is videotaped by Moore discussing being tired of people asking him for money, places he would live, and how he feels about leaving his home. Date of video hasn't been verified by LE.

    1/11/09 Abraham transfers two deeds held by S&A to AMP. Howard Stitzel/attorney prepares documents.

    01/09/09 Abraham transfers deed of his home to AMP. Johnnie Byrd/attorney prepares document.

    12/00/08 Moore is introduced to Abraham through Barbara Jackson (realtor). Moore expresses interest in writing an article about Abraham and Jackson for a local magazine. She also expresses interest in telling Abraham's story in a book.


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  5. #213
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    Quote Originally Posted by wanttohelp View Post
    The poster did not respond and went poof when I brought these things up. What she says about her company doesn't make much sense to me when looking over its docs. Thanks
    Yes, I was looking at this... along with our research... it doesn't add up.


    Also,
    In regards to another issue brought up... There are answers, to other questions as well, within all of our research.


    Good to see ya wanttohelp... hugssssss


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    I am glad that Kim Potwin came on the site and helped explain what was otherwise a confusing business transaction. I remember the sleuthing of Kim Potwin led to the erroneous conclusion that Dorice Moore had changed her name to Kim Potwin, which obviously isn't true. There actually is a Kim Potwin. I think her explanation was informative and keeps right in the character of Dorice Moore preying on people. Until I see proof otherwise, it appears to me she was a victim of Dorice Moore. I do feel bad that she was taken advantage of by Dorice Moore. I'd like to see specific proof, links to public records, any facts, of anything that Kim Potwin has done wrong in this case. Except I'll have to see it later. Off to get an oil change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JLMcKenna83 View Post
    Welcome to WS Tigergal! Sorry I didn't get a chance to say that earlier..

    Anyways.. if you had been around when we were actually talking to DeeDee, you would have seen that she just couldn't keep her mouth shut.... Or her fingers still.. It was unbelievable the stuff that she was spouting off.. and then blaming on everyone else for doing it..

    I guess no one ever taught her that loose lips sink ships.. or that fish don't get caught until they open their mouths... lol.
    Oh I READ all that!! I thought she was insane being on here defending herself....I mean, you brought up a great point....Fish don't get caught until they open their mouths. I think she's guilty as can be, which is why she was so adamantly running around doing interviews with the Ledger and posting here, trying to cast off the suspicion. Why else would you talk?
    Thanks for the welcome!! It has certainly been an eye-opening experience, reading everything here!!!


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    5732 State Road (SR) 60 E Plant City, FL
    little red house & the land it's sitting on. It's tied to Dee Moore, Shar Krasniqi, D. Howard Stitzel III = disappearance of Abraham Shakespeare.

    Don't be deceived by its looks; there is a lot of activity happening in this little house.

    Property Owner - R & D Properties of Brandon Inc
    Mark Warda, President of Land Trust Service Corp named Trustee
    Krasniqi bought an adjacent house (5802 State Rd) from Richard Laneneed to look at this again, is lane a typo for land, or were there 2 sets of docs and there's a connection between this company/house, Krasniqi, Moore and Lane. A lot more to come about this connection and Richard Lane.
    http://www.hcpafl.org/CamaDisplay.as...Z000004118300U

    American Medical Professionals/Dee Moore - their business filing address is still Redhawk Bend (house acquired from Abraham)
    5732 SR 60 Plant City, FL 33567 813-752-7997
    http://www.stpetersburg.com/merican...nals-b23245341

    American Medical Professionals
    3302 W Risk St Plant City, FL 33563-4038 813-752-7997
    ]http://www.hospitalsandmedicalcenter...da/plant-city/

    American Service Professionals, LLC/Dorice Donegan AKA Dee Moore
    5732 State Road 60 E Plant City, FL 813-737-4444
    http://sunbiz.org/scripts/cordet.exe...s_filing_type=

    Abraham Shakespeare LLC/D Moore (coded as collection agency with Hillsborough County)
    5732 State Road 60 Plant City, FL 33566
    http://sunbiz.org/scripts/cordet.exe...s_filing_type=

    A Stat and Supplies, LLC/Shar Anthony Krasniqi (owns land in Gulf County/tax bills sent to Redhawk Bend-Abraham's home transferred to American Medical)
    5732 State Road 60 E Plant City, FL 33567 813-737-3267
    http://www.hillstax.org/occweb/occup...iscalYear=2010

    Hillsborough County Notice of Commencement/Owner Shar Krasniqi
    Krasniqi files papers with county on 2/19/09 for HVAC work done at 5732 State Rd 60
    States and signs document as owner of property
    http://pubrec3.hillsclerk.com/oncore...i=0&ref=search

    Craigslist Tampa - Date: 2009-12-17, 10:02AM EST
    $650 Office Suite for Rent-Many amenities (5732 SR 60 E, Plant City FL)
    Office Suite for Rent on busy Hwy 60 near Valrico in Plant City
    Many amenities included:
    Plenty of parking
    Large waiting room area, Covered smoking porch
    Full Kitchen, Conference Room, Internet service
    Electric/Water/Sewer/Garbage included
    Call 813-737-4444 for an appointment to see; References and background check required
    Location: 5732 SR 60 E, Plant City FL
    and dead body

    Craigslist Tampa Date: 2009-12-04, 10:15AM EST
    LPN Positions (5732 SR 60 E, Plant City, FL)
    Reply to: amppatricia@aol.com=patricia krasniqi a.k.a. etc.
    LPN's needed for LTC. Daily work, daily pay. Must have one years experience to work agency. 813-737-4444
    Location: 5732 SR 60 E, Plant City, FL

    Craigslist Tampa Date: 2009-11-11
    Surgical Techs
    American Medical Professionals. Location: 5732 SR 60 E, Plant City FL;
    Compensation: Daily work, daily pay. Competative salary

    ALLEN FLORA ALENE TRUSTEE
    Mailing Address
    3423 NICHOLS RD,
    LITHIA, FL 33547-4223
    813-737-4444
    Trustee: Flora A. Allen
    source: Hillsborough Property Records
    Last edited by KateB; 06-09-2015 at 07:08 PM. Reason: removed html tags on bad links.


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    Quote Originally Posted by wanttohelp View Post
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    10/00/09 Howard Stitzel told The Ledger that the last time he talked to his client was in October when they discussed child support issues. Stitzel said Abraham didn't sound distressed during their phone conversation. "I firmly believe he's alive," Stitzel said. "I firmly believe he's hiding because he doesn't want to be found."

    05/06/09 Another series of mortgage transactions are filed with Polk County. Howard Stitzel/attorney prepares documents dating them 1/15/09. Some have Abraham's printed signature; they have notary date of 4/3/09.

    04/00/09 Abraham was last seen in early April per LE.

    04/01/09 A series of Assignment of Mortgage documents are prepared by Howard Stitzel/attorney transferring all mortgage loans/promissary notes to AMP. Abraham's printed signature is on documents; notarized by Linda Kickliter (Moore's nail technician).

    04/00/09 Abraham is videotaped by Moore discussing being tired of people asking him for money, places he would live, and how he feels about leaving his home. Date of video hasn't been verified by LE.

    COLOR]
    Thanks wanttohelp for bringing all these points forward. It's a great timeline in the case and helps us newbies keep everything straight in our heads.
    I believe the two bolded items above cast suspicion all over DM & HS. It is obvious Howard lied about contact with AS, since we know when that concrete slab was poured. Seems they were just tying everything up in what they thought was a neat little package just days prior to his death. PREMEDITATION I believe is obvious. That will carry a 1st degree murder charge. Any confirmation on the actual DATE the concrete was poured? I believe they'd said last evidence of AS being alive was around 4/3, or 4/9 or something like that at a funeral.


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    Quote Originally Posted by wanttohelp View Post
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    5732 State Road (SR) 60 E Plant City, FL
    little red house & the land it's sitting on. It's tied to Dee Moore, Shar Krasniqi, D. Howard Stitzel III = disappearance of Abraham Shakespeare.

    Don't be deceived by its looks; there is a lot of activity happening in this little house.
    WOW!!! Thanks for all this info....I missed it somewhere along the way. The "pot" just keeps getting bigger and bigger and fuller and fuller. Scary to think how many people are going to end up tied to this whole thing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Iminuru View Post
    Yes, I was looking at this... along with our research... it doesn't add up.


    Also,
    In regards to another issue brought up... There are answers, to other questions as well, within all of our research.


    Good to see ya wanttohelp... hugssssss


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    Headline news reporting they have found his body

    I just got a news story on headline news confirming that his body was found under a concrete slab of Dee Dee Moores boyfriends house in Hillsboro county.
    Polk county saying other evidence was found.
    Dee Dee is "person of interest."



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    someone in threads way back had asked, can Shar be accounted for. I am curious about that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tricia View Post
    Her legal council just dumped her.
    The "why?" of it, is here... but I don't know how to show it, or if it would be ok to point to it... to point it out... and at the moment, it's the only way that I can think of. Showing it, would have to include part of something that is so apparent on one hand, yet on the other hand it is not completely proven... and I don't mean DM's part.

    With the not completely proven part, I'm quite hesitant on this...



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    I don't know if anyone can comment on this , but are we looking at a large sweeping mob political connection here as well or just so many bad apples converging on many things coincidentally? BTW, JlM and Susan1, I was born in 13104 big red house with Gazebo in middle of RT 175, 92, now in 34201 and you are you in Florida as well?? I remember both stories mentioned well as i also had friends in NYSP who were involved in that case. very very sad.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Iminuru View Post
    The "why?" of it, is here... but I don't know how to show it, or if it would be ok to point to it... to point it out... and at the moment, it's the only way that I can think of. Showing it, would have to include part of something that is so apparent on one hand, yet on the other hand it is not completely proven... and I don't mean DM's part.

    With the not completely proven part, I'm quite hesitant on this...

    Is it something that has already been mentioned in a prior post on this site? Or something in the media? If that's the case, I'd think it would be fine to re-iterate it here. Is that what you mean? Or am I off base?


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    I'm just learning the details of this case and still have a lot to catch up on but so far what I know...UNBELIEVABLE and heart breaking at the same time! It's mind blowing how evil and greedy people can be! Who would have ever thought these "professionals" would take advantage of someone like Abraham and do such a thing. We're talking about a GROUP of people here! I hope they all fry for what they did to Abraham.


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