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    AL - Todd Brown, 14, fatally shot by classmate at Madison school, 5 Feb 2010

    http://www.waaytv.com/Global/story.asp?S=11941006

    Prayers for the family of this boy here in Madison, Alabama
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    ah, I read about this from a girls journal on another site I frequent. She lives in the area and said it was rumored to be gang related because the victim posted a YouTube video "dissing" the shooter, and the shooter told the victim he'd kill him.

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    I'm just amazed at the statement to CNN by the police chief. He said, despite the shooting, the schools were safe.

    Sorry, but I totally disagree. When a student can smuggle a gun into a school and kill another student, the schools in Madison, AL are not safe.

    Additionally, the previous post alluded to a gang connection. Principals, teachers, etc. are aware of known gang members.

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    Rest in peace, Todd.



    Discovery Middle School Shooting Victim Dies

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    While authorities have not cited a motive, another student told WAAY-TV, a CNN affiliate, of a possible reason for the shooting. "It was some discussion about gang-related things and the shooter just got fed up with it," said student Jeremy Tuttle.

    Madison, Alabama is a small town of around 36 - 37,000 people in northern Alabama. Discovery Middle School covers grades 7-9. No others, either faculty or students, were hurt in the incident, authorities added.

    A number of Todd Brown support groups have appeared on Facebook since the incident. The photo above is from one of them. A special community meeting is also planned at Bob Jones High School on Sunday at 2 PM.

    http://www.huliq.com/3257/91242/disc...ng-victim-dies

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    God bless these families as they deal with this senseless trajedy!

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    I live in the same county--- Madison is a safe town with low crime. Very family friendly. This is so sad--Have heard gang related, not gang related.
    i know that there are gangs every where but it is not big in Madison, just no signs of it anywhere. The school system is one of the best in Alabama.

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    Judge will determine Monday whether suspect in Madison school shooting should be tried as an adult

    The future of a Discovery Middle School student charged in the shooting death of a fellow classmate will be determined Monday at 1:30 p.m. when he goes before a judge to determine if he should be charged as an adult.

    During an afternoon press conference, Madison Police Chief Larry Muncey said the suspect's home was searched and a number of items were confiscated.

    http://blog.al.com/breaking/2010/02/post_203.html

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    Community Helps Those Cope With Discovery Shooting

    There will be a community wide meeting on Sunday from 2 pm to 3 pm at Bob Jones High School. Members of clergy, grief counselors, city officials, teachers, and parents will be there to discuss, reflect and mourn this tragic event. Additional counselors will be available in many of the local schools on Monday. Also, students are encouraging the community to wear blue over the next few days in remembrance of Todd Brown.

    http://www.waaytv.com/Global/story.asp?S=11946340

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    God BLess the families, and Rest in peace Todd. What a senseless tragedy this is. So very sad.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Idaho4Groenes View Post
    Judge will determine Monday whether suspect in Madison school shooting should be tried as an adult

    The future of a Discovery Middle School student charged in the shooting death of a fellow classmate will be determined Monday at 1:30 p.m. when he goes before a judge to determine if he should be charged as an adult.

    During an afternoon press conference, Madison Police Chief Larry Muncey said the suspect's home was searched and a number of items were confiscated.

    http://blog.al.com/breaking/2010/02/post_203.html
    And, there's a concern that he shouldn't be charged as an adult?


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    Madison coming to grips with Discovery Middle School shooting

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    The Times has confirmed the identity of the suspect, but his name won't be released by authorities unless he is certified to be tried as an adult. The hearing Monday is set for 1:30 p.m.

    Madison County District Attorney Rob Broussard said if the alleged shooter, reportedly 14 years old, is charged as an adult he would face the same penalties as any adult charged with murder.

    Assistant District Attorney Tim Gann, formerly in charge of juvenile court prosecution, said he expects the process to go "very fast." He said juveniles committing this type of "serious crime" are usually certified as an adult.

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    The city plans to establish a community support line Monday staffed by volunteers trained in grief counseling. The number and hours will be posted sometime today. An anonymous school safety tip line is open at 464-6575.

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    He assured the public that Madison police will be doing everything possible to make sure the schools are safe, but encouraged parents to do their part, too.

    "We all need to open better lines of communication with our children and our students," he said. "As parents, we need to be involved on a daily basis and know where our children are, what they are doing, who they are talking to, what Web sites they are visiting, and create an environment of trust where they feel comfortable sharing information with us."

    More: http://blog.al.com/breaking/2010/02/...ps_with_s.html

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    This is an awful, senseless crime. I do have to question, however, whether a 14 year old is anywhere near making decisions on an adult level. I do not want his deed to go unpunished. I don't want him to be babied or to spend a couple years in juvie and call it finished.

    There are nations that execute 14 year olds, notably Iran, who had a child flayed alive for taking a bite of bread before sundown during Ramadan. But USA is supposed to be more civilized than those other countries---

    All current medical research indicates that the brain of a 14 year old is an immature brain, with maturity of the brain not occurring now until the MID-TWENTIES. I'm not sure why this is, or whether it is a "new" development or whether it has always been, I just know the brain of a 14 year old is the brain of a child, and nowhere near the brain of an adult.

    This tells me that we probably need something between juvie and adult jail for young teens and children who have committed gross atrocities. Because a kid in adult jail is going to be victimized, trained, and released as a well-educated criminal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trino View Post
    And, there's a concern that he shouldn't be charged as an adult?
    People are angry, and rightfully so. They want the victim back, and they want the perpetrator punished. But there SHOULD BE a concern when we are talking about treating a 14 year old as an adult, shouldn't there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kgeaux View Post
    People are angry, and rightfully so. They want the victim back, and they want the perpetrator punished. But there SHOULD BE a concern when we are talking about treating a 14 year old as an adult, shouldn't there?
    It appears the shooter was expelled from another school and that he has a "background." (no link)

    The alleged shooter left a chilling message on his MySpace page 21 hours before the shooting: "Squirming in pain, writhing in agony."

    "He had a strange attraction to stuff gang-related..."

    "The boy calmly recocked the gun and walked away, according to witnesses."

    http://blog.al.com/breaking/2010/02/...ol_shoote.html
    Last edited by Trino; 02-07-2010 at 08:19 PM.

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    I agree that this boy's past should be considered, and he should be thoroughly evaluated. But I don't think it's fair to assume that *every* child who murders should be charged as an adult.

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