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    Man Dies In Sleep Center ...

    His mother, said staff did not properly watch over her son, and he repeatedly gestured for help that did not come.

    "Brandon did not receive the appropriate care from (the sleep center). Actually, in my opinion, he received no care at all."

    Emory, in a statement, said that Harris died of sudden cardiac arrest and the hospital attended to him appropriately.


    Harris' uncle, said the hospital allowed him to watch video footage of his nephew at the sleep center and he said there was negligence in monitoring Harris. The tape showed Harris waving seven times over 40 minutes apparently to draw someone's attention but no one responded, Lewis said.


    A nurse responded when Harris removed sensors from his body. Harris walked to a nearby restroom and the nurse left, and he returned to the room and to bed.


    Three nurses later entered the room and Harris appeared to be in discomfort. He tried to get up, lost his balance and fell, bringing emergency personnel, the uncle said.


    "There is no reason he should have been neglected like that," Lewis said.


    More at link: http://www.ajc.com/news/man-dies-dur...ry-294250.html



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    This is TERRIBLE! I can't even imagine how his parents feel! When I look at Harris, I think of a little boy, a mother's child/son .... and it breaks my heart!


    And NOW ... there's to be NO investigation into this! WHY???


    See here >>> http://www.ajc.com/news/dekalb/coron...to-293531.html

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    Wow, what a story. How sad.

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    I'm very sad to read this. Hospitals need to watch over their pts. No great news here about the neglect. Hear and see it all the time. It seems that many appear to not to do their jobs anymore. Makes me sick. This should never have taken place if anyone was aware. I don't think many of the people seem to be monitoring their pts. and I find it odd he died in a sleep center of all places....

    RIP.


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    I agree that it's odd, but not sure if there was neglect.
    I have spent 2 nights at a sleep study clinic, they hook up so many monitores to you and everything is recorded. It seems to me that if someone was really in destress that it would be caught very quickly.
    I wonder how many they have there on staff for the clinic? The 1 I was at had only 1 person and they had 2 bedrooms so it's possible they would be busy with the other person and something could be missed.
    I do find it interesting that they said no medication was given. My Dr had an order for me to take ambien if I was not able to go to sleep while there, I didn't need it since I brought my medication with me which helps me to sleep.

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    VB- When I was in a sleep center, (many years ago) I didn't know how many pts. were there. I had no access to anyone. Also, since they were trying to find a dx they took me off my meds. and I could not take any sleeping pills. I must have stayed up the whole night. I feel they may have been negflectful to this pt. as he seemed to be struggling by the story. I guess we may have to wait for the Lawsuit to know the exact facts.

    Good day to you. Thanks for your input.

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    How sad. Heart breaking.

    My mom was sick last year. She's elderly, and of course waited on going to the Doctor. She had this cough among other symptoms and the regular Doctor advised us to a Pulmonary specialist.

    Tough old bird that she is my mom made it to this specialist. Barley. Having a hard time catching any breath. The I guess tech took vitals and turns to me and says "Her heart rate is a little over 200. Is it always like that?" Nooooooo! But hey I'm waiting on a Doctor. The Doc comes in with his laptop and asks a bunch of questions. Listens to her chest and says "She needs to go to a sleep clinic. You can set the appointment up at the desk." Like a knit wit I do while my mom's sitting there looking like God knows what.

    Intersting when they called the next week to confirm. I informed them she had congestive heart failure and they could catch up with her at the local hospital she'd been in for a week.

    Not to take away from this poor man's death but wanted to just remind everyone that we have to advocate for ourselves. Often we can't. One would think these people know what the he*l they're doing.

    That's a sin for this family.

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    Yes Filly, we do have to advocate for ourselves.

    Prayers for your mom....


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    If you look at his photo, he appears to be rather overweight. If he died from sudden cardiac arrest, I have no idea what do you think the clinic could have done?
    It's not like he collapsed and then wasn't attended to.
    From the description of the tape, he waved, but then got up to go to the restroom. The nurse responded before he went to the restroom, so if he knew he needed urgent help, it doesn't sound like he asked for it then. I am guessing he didn't know he needed urgent help. When he came back from the restroom, the three nurses came in, and then he tried to get up but fell (collapsed), and the emergency medical personnel came in. So, I don't understand, what would be the negligence?
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    Well I will be at the sleep study center tonight. I will ask them if they have any thoughts on this.

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    he was a pretty large man. Who's brilliant idea was it to let a man this size participate in a sleep study? Clearly, his weight was likely a culprit with any sleep issues. First thing that comes to mind is his own snoring likely woke him and the weight on his body caused sleep problems. That from a 'lay person' with no medical background other than what I read.

    The first article indicates he got up, walked around, and waved 7 times for assistance. Why did he not use the alert button attached to hospital beds? He was observed walking to a restroom and back, also from the link posted in the OP.

    I'm really having a hard time seeing any neglect on the hospitals part, other than the decision to allow someone who was not just 'overweight' as the family described, but obese to participate in a sleep study. IMO, the family would have to look at other participants in sleep studies close to this mans weight, and why his earlier actions demonstrated cause for concern and then neglect.

    Not getting the families claims.

    I imagine there was also a disclosure of some kind, most likely signed by the participant which explained the hospitals procedures. If it wasn't to his liking, he had the opportunity to ask reguarding any concerns, no?

    I think this guy was a heart attack waiting to happen at any time at his weight. Sad, but true. So if there are any 'repercussions' to be had, it woud have to be the decision on allowing somone his size to participate in such a study and something lacking in the disclosure for participants.
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    I am not sure why you think an overweight person shouldn't be participating in a sleep study? Overweight people do all kind of things.

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    Filly for the sleep studies I went to, it was not a regular hospital room. The rooms used were seperated from a regular hospital room area, much more secluded and the bed etc were regular beds much like you'd find at a hotel. Everything was done to make it comfortable for the person staying there. There was no button to push for calling a nurse, there was no nurse, only the person who stayed there throughout the night to hook you up, observe you by viewing the video cameras that were on you all night long while all the monitores hooked up to you recorded how you slept. There was an intercom open so if I needed to get up out of bed all I had to do was call out for him and he could hear me.
    He was a very talkative person and talked about seeing some really wild things while people were there sleeping, I really don't think seeing someone waving their arms out etc would be all that unusual, people who are having sleep problems can do many things.
    My thoughts are that he was having health problems, possibly sleep apnea, and so his Dr needed the sleep study done to be able to prove it so the care would be covered by insurance. Sleep apnea can affect many things, including blood pressure and weight.
    Not everyone having sleep apnea is overweight, I was told that the worse case they saw at the hospital I was at was a very slender woman.

    I am sure him dying at the hospital came as quite a shock to his family. It's not like he was in the hospital after a heart attack or something, he was simply there to spend the night and then leave in the morning.
    I hope his family can get all their answers they need but I'm just not sure on if there was any real neglect.

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    He was probably not motioning for someone because of his heart, but because he had to go to the bathroom. I've done a sleep study, and all I had to do when I wanted to go to the bathroom was say to so out loud. If you want to get up to pee, a nurse has to come unhook you from the sensors. Then they have to hook you all back up when you're done. It takes time to do all that unhooking and re-hooking. If he was in distress there was plenty of opportunity for him to tell them. I don't think he was. This wasn't a heart attack but sudden cardiac arrest. There's a big difference with the two. With sudden cardiac arrest, in most cases, there are no warning signs or symptoms.

    I think his heart stopped suddenly and there was nothing they could do. It wasn't like they found him the next morning dead. It says that 3 nurses were in the room when he got up and then fell. I personally think he fell because he was in sudden cardiac arrest. He was probably dead before he even hit the floor or bed or whatever he landed on. In such cases, there is a slim chance of resuscitation and then a slim chance of living after that. This man still would have died if he had been at home. Sleep studies don't cause cardiac arrest. I don't see any negligence here, except for the man and his own health.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sillygoose View Post
    He was probably not motioning for someone because of his heart, but because he had to go to the bathroom. I've done a sleep study, and all I had to do when I wanted to go to the bathroom was say to so out loud. If you want to get up to pee, a nurse has to come unhook you from the sensors. Then they have to hook you all back up when you're done. It takes time to do all that unhooking and re-hooking. If he was in distress there was plenty of opportunity for him to tell them. I don't think he was. This wasn't a heart attack but sudden cardiac arrest. There's a big difference with the two. With sudden cardiac arrest, in most cases, there are no warning signs or symptoms.

    I think his heart stopped suddenly and there was nothing they could do. It wasn't like they found him the next morning dead. It says that 3 nurses were in the room when he got up and then fell. I personally think he fell because he was in sudden cardiac arrest. He was probably dead before he even hit the floor or bed or whatever he landed on. In such cases, there is a slim chance of resuscitation and then a slim chance of living after that. This man still would have died if he had been at home. Sleep studies don't cause cardiac arrest. I don't see any negligence here, except for the man and his own health.
    I agree. He was waiving before he got up to go to the restroom. The nurse was in the room when he got up to go to the restroom. If he needed urgent help and knew it, then he could have informed the nurse about it then. He appears to be overweight in his photo and the heart has harder time pumping blood to a heavier body.

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    I don't think there was negligence. He could've just as easily been at home or school or wherever when this occured. It seems they tried to save his life and couldn't. I don't see how that's negligible but that's just my opinion.

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