I regard HOTYH and myself as great warriors for our respective causes, like dueling samurai or great masters of kung fu.
The challenge was made and I accept. Today is a good day to die.
Right now!
I had originally meant that I would take my case to the people and let them decide that once my book hit the stands, but this is just as good.
1) I'll admit I'm iffy as to the RN. Either one of them could have come up with the foreign faction angle. But let's not forget that JR was stationed in the Phillipines during his Navy days. Then as now, the Phillipines were rife with revolutionary activity. Some groups were communist, like the New People's Army. Others were Islamist, like Abu Sayyef. It's not unthinkable that he would have had a passing familiarity with some of them.
2) I'm not even sure about the actual killing. The cover-up afterwards, that I'm more sure of. His shirt fibers were found in her underwear and he cannot account for them. And since it was an expensive, exclusive make, I doubt very seriously that it was anything except dry-clean-only, which means that it's highly unlikely they just "mixed in the wash."
3) As for the "imagined" prior abuse, I can honestly say with every damn fiber of my being that it WAS just imagined! No less than seven trailblazing experts--none of them associated with supermarket rags in any fashion--all agreed independently of each other that JB had suffered old and new vaginal injuries. These are the people who know what to look for. They're SUPPOSED to know what to look for. And they weren't "armchair, Monday morning" observers either. Each one of them was right in the trenches. Each of them examined microscopic slides of tissue taken from JB's vagina. That was the clincher in each instance.
I mention JB's boundary issues, but that doesn't really do it justice.
I'll let some excerpts from chapter four tell the rest of the story:
Her toilet training regressed to that of an infant. She was a frequent bed wetter, and would even wet herself during the day, requiring a change of panties. She would often ask any nearby adult to change and wipe her. But even after Patsy recovered, it didn't get much better. JonBenet was reduced to wearing training pants like a toddler. By the time of her death, the regression had taken on a new dimension: soiling.
SNIP
Also, in an interview for the "National Enquirer" tabloid in 2000, Patsy confessed that she had considered the possibility of John molesting JonBenet during her cancer treatments, but wrote it off. Her reasoning for doing so was very odd. She didn't consider it, then dismiss it because "oh, he'd never do something like that." She dismissed it because her mother was sleeping inside the room like a guard dog. Why did she have to keep watch in the first place, I ask.
SNIP
Boulder Police Detective Linda Arndt, the one who let John and Fleet root around in the basement, was deposed in a civil suit she'd brought against the city. Here's what she had to say:
Question: Which opinions were these?
Answer: Incest, naming the Ramseys as suspects.
Q: This is incest between John Ramsey and JonBenet?
A: Yes, to the whole incest dynamic in the family.
Q: But involving John Ramsey and JonBenet, any other members?
A: Well, specifically because she's the one who's dead.
Q: But when you refer again to incest, it could involve any number of
family members. I'm just trying to identify the family members when you
use that term.
A: Well, there's a whole dynamic, because everybody's got a role in the
family.
Q: The incest has an effect on family members, does it not?
A: Well, in general terms that covers it when you talk about an act, but
I'm talking about the dynamic.
Q: I understand about the dynamic, but I want to get the predicate first.
The participants in the incest, when you refer to incest, you're
referring to John Ramsey and JonBenet and no other family members?
A: I refer to every member of the family. Every member has a role.
Q: But in terms of the sexual act that's implicit in the term of
"incest," you're referring to John Ramsey and JonBenet?
A: Yes
In an interview for "Good Morning America" on the ABC network in 1999, Arndt, who had been present at JonBenet's autopsy, said that the coroner told her that JonBenet was the victim of sexual molestation, but he wouldn't go on record unless called into court.
SNIP
Lastly, John's attitude toward the issue of molestation is troubling, to say the least. When Det. Thomas mentioned the expert panel on Larry King Live, I thought John was going to reach across the table and belt him, walk off the set, or both.
As the old saying goes, "a hit dog barks."
I have reasons for thinking what I think. I'm often ashamed of them, but I can't brush them off. May the gods forgive me one day.
The challenge was made and I accept. Today is a good day to die.
HoldontoYourHat said:In the context of a witness, I said JR was the top expert. Your spin is that JR is the top expert because he is an accomplice. Thats interesting since he can't be linked to the RN or to the murder or to any imagined prior abuse in any way, shape, or form.
SuperDave said:Just you watch me.
Any time, let me know when you start.
Right now!
I had originally meant that I would take my case to the people and let them decide that once my book hit the stands, but this is just as good.
1) I'll admit I'm iffy as to the RN. Either one of them could have come up with the foreign faction angle. But let's not forget that JR was stationed in the Phillipines during his Navy days. Then as now, the Phillipines were rife with revolutionary activity. Some groups were communist, like the New People's Army. Others were Islamist, like Abu Sayyef. It's not unthinkable that he would have had a passing familiarity with some of them.
2) I'm not even sure about the actual killing. The cover-up afterwards, that I'm more sure of. His shirt fibers were found in her underwear and he cannot account for them. And since it was an expensive, exclusive make, I doubt very seriously that it was anything except dry-clean-only, which means that it's highly unlikely they just "mixed in the wash."
3) As for the "imagined" prior abuse, I can honestly say with every damn fiber of my being that it WAS just imagined! No less than seven trailblazing experts--none of them associated with supermarket rags in any fashion--all agreed independently of each other that JB had suffered old and new vaginal injuries. These are the people who know what to look for. They're SUPPOSED to know what to look for. And they weren't "armchair, Monday morning" observers either. Each one of them was right in the trenches. Each of them examined microscopic slides of tissue taken from JB's vagina. That was the clincher in each instance.
I mention JB's boundary issues, but that doesn't really do it justice.
I'll let some excerpts from chapter four tell the rest of the story:
Her toilet training regressed to that of an infant. She was a frequent bed wetter, and would even wet herself during the day, requiring a change of panties. She would often ask any nearby adult to change and wipe her. But even after Patsy recovered, it didn't get much better. JonBenet was reduced to wearing training pants like a toddler. By the time of her death, the regression had taken on a new dimension: soiling.
SNIP
Also, in an interview for the "National Enquirer" tabloid in 2000, Patsy confessed that she had considered the possibility of John molesting JonBenet during her cancer treatments, but wrote it off. Her reasoning for doing so was very odd. She didn't consider it, then dismiss it because "oh, he'd never do something like that." She dismissed it because her mother was sleeping inside the room like a guard dog. Why did she have to keep watch in the first place, I ask.
SNIP
Boulder Police Detective Linda Arndt, the one who let John and Fleet root around in the basement, was deposed in a civil suit she'd brought against the city. Here's what she had to say:
Question: Which opinions were these?
Answer: Incest, naming the Ramseys as suspects.
Q: This is incest between John Ramsey and JonBenet?
A: Yes, to the whole incest dynamic in the family.
Q: But involving John Ramsey and JonBenet, any other members?
A: Well, specifically because she's the one who's dead.
Q: But when you refer again to incest, it could involve any number of
family members. I'm just trying to identify the family members when you
use that term.
A: Well, there's a whole dynamic, because everybody's got a role in the
family.
Q: The incest has an effect on family members, does it not?
A: Well, in general terms that covers it when you talk about an act, but
I'm talking about the dynamic.
Q: I understand about the dynamic, but I want to get the predicate first.
The participants in the incest, when you refer to incest, you're
referring to John Ramsey and JonBenet and no other family members?
A: I refer to every member of the family. Every member has a role.
Q: But in terms of the sexual act that's implicit in the term of
"incest," you're referring to John Ramsey and JonBenet?
A: Yes
In an interview for "Good Morning America" on the ABC network in 1999, Arndt, who had been present at JonBenet's autopsy, said that the coroner told her that JonBenet was the victim of sexual molestation, but he wouldn't go on record unless called into court.
SNIP
Lastly, John's attitude toward the issue of molestation is troubling, to say the least. When Det. Thomas mentioned the expert panel on Larry King Live, I thought John was going to reach across the table and belt him, walk off the set, or both.
As the old saying goes, "a hit dog barks."
I have reasons for thinking what I think. I'm often ashamed of them, but I can't brush them off. May the gods forgive me one day.