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    Hong Kong - Robert Kissel, 59, murdered, wife charged, 2 Nov 2003

    Click here for link of Nancy Kissel appeals life sentence

    Nancy Kissel was found guilty of the murder of her husband Robert, Andrew's brother.

    Another link;
    Michigan native appeals Hong Kong milkshake murder conviction

    From that article;
    Nancy Kissel's attempt to overturn the verdict in what became known as the "Milkshake Murder" will reopen a sensational trial in a case involving wealthy expatriates' alleged sexual abuse, cocaine use and adultery.
    Kissel, who was born in Adrian, Mich., and studied business at the University of Minnesota, appeared fragile Monday, requiring help from a guard to sit down. The willowy brunette also burst into tears as she briefly talked to her parents before the hearing began.
    She was found guilty of murder after a three-month trial in 2005 for killing her husband Robert Kissel on Nov. 2, 2003.




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    I just finished Joe McGuiness' NEVER ENOUGH. Riveting. I'm not usually a fast reader but I zipped right through this one. A page turner.

    I have a question that, even though I have searched. What was the result of the April, 2008 appeal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovesbooks View Post
    I just finished Joe McGuiness' NEVER ENOUGH. Riveting. I'm not usually a fast reader but I zipped right through this one. A page turner.

    I have a question that, even though I have searched. What was the result of the April, 2008 appeal?

    I just finished that book also. I agree it was a really good book. Very interesting. Well, I don't know the results of the appeal , but I hope she stays right there in prison where she belongs.

    I feel she's a self centered liar and cold blooded murderer.

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    About the appeals; I can find lots of info about the begining of the appeals, April, 2008 but absolutley NOTHING sbout the outcome.
    I, too, hope she stays in jail, in Hong Kong. But I'd really like to know. Someone is paying big bucks for lawyers for her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovesbooks View Post
    About the appeals; I can find lots of info about the begining of the appeals, April, 2008 but absolutley NOTHING sbout the outcome.
    I, too, hope she stays in jail, in Hong Kong. But I'd really like to know. Someone is paying big bucks for lawyers for her.
    I wonder why there is no information about the outcome of the appeals.

    I also would like to know why this anonymous person is paying her legal bills.

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    There seems to be two of us who hope she stays in jail.

    I'm still trying to find out. How can there be NOT ONE WORD of the outcome????

    If I do find out, I'll post it on here. Hope you will do the same.

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    There has been a update in the news about the appeal. I won't be a spoiler and reveal it here. It happened AFTER the TV movie was made so unless they were able to add it or have a text update at the end, it might not be included.

    Again, I'm going to recommend Joe McGuiness' book, Never Enough. Story of the Kissels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovesbooks View Post
    There has been a update in the news about the appeal. I won't be a spoiler and reveal it here. It happened AFTER the TV movie was made so unless they were able to add it or have a text update at the end, it might not be included.

    Again, I'm going to recommend Joe McGuiness' book, Never Enough. Story of the Kissels.
    Thank you for the book title- I didn't know there was a book. I remember the story from one of the news shows (48 Hours or one of those).

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    Court overturns milkshake murder conviction
    But woman accused of drugging, clubbing banker husband faces retrial

    updated 1 hour, 47 minutes ago

    HONG KONG - In a stunning reversal, Hong Kong's highest court has overturned the murder conviction of Nancy Kissel, the American expatriate accused of drugging and clubbing her banker husband to death in a case widely known as the "milkshake murder."

    Hong Kong's Court of Final Appeal also ordered a retrial in its decision issued Thursday. The court, however, ordered Kissel, 45, kept in custody pending a bail application.

    Kissel's lawyers argued during the appeal hearing that prosecutors broke the law by using evidence during the murder trial that drew from the American's initial bail hearing after she was charged.

    The mother of two, who lost her first appeal, has been serving a life sentence since she was convicted in September 2005 of drugging her high-flying banker husband with a sedatives-laced strawberry milkshake before bludgeoning him to death in 2003.


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    The Milk-Shake Murder - Robert Kissel - DEAD at 39

    The Milk-Shake Murder: Hong Kong's Trial of the Decade Is Back

    GREEN From Song not form article:
    Robert Kissel lived one floor above me, before they moved from Manhattan.
    They were the pretty people, the successful people, the social butterflies.
    I knew them pretty well.....I was the Buildings Chairwoman he was the buildings Treasurer.
    We were in a Condo conversion that did not happen.

    LATER: His wife killed him in HK - this is a very shocking story. I was watching the first case and now
    she is going up for a retrial. Her Children are with Roberts sister, the only surviving sibling.
    His brother Andrew was murdered a year or two later (that is the next post)


    FROM article:

    >>>SNIP>>>
    One night in Hong Kong in November 2003, American expat Nancy Kissel smashed her husband's skull with a heavy lead ornament. Four days later, police discovered his rotting corpse, wrapped in a carpet in the basement storeroom of the luxury apartment complex where the couple lived. An autopsy found a cocktail of sedatives in his stomach and liver. The 39-year-old mother of three was accused of giving her husband a sedative-laced milk shake before clubbing him to death, and in 2005, Kissel was convicted of premeditated murder and sentenced to life. In her first appeal, which she lost, the court called it "as cogent a case of murder as might be imagined."
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>more at link....

    Read more: http://www.time.com/time/world/artic...#ixzz0fcTCZyiN

    After 7 years in jail she looks pretty bad.(photo of Nancy)
    but long article tells a lot.


    http://specials.msn.com/A-List/Milks...8&imageindex=1

    >>>> snip
    The story of the "Milkshake Murderer" Nancy Kissel took yet another surprise turn this week, when a Hong Kong court just ruled that there must be a retrial in the case of her husband's death. Nancy, who admitted early on that she did kill her husband but claimed it was in self-defense, was accused of conspiring to give him a poisoned strawberry milkshake, then beating him to death with a statue. But the HK court found that the prosecution had improperly relied on some hearsay evidence.
    Last edited by songline; 02-16-2010 at 05:02 AM.
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    And when someone breaks our wings,
    we simply continue to fly... on a broomstick.

    We're flexible like that.


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    Can it Be more bazaar?

    His brother was Murdered as well - but he was a con man.
    Andrew M. Kissel Article is Andrew photo but includes both cases.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/12/wo...ia/12hong.html

    TWO BROTHER MURDERED - BOTH MILLIONAIRS BOTH VERY DIFFERENT.

    ROBERT was murdered by his wife - the milkshake murder in HK.
    ANDREW was murdered by his Chauffeur in Connecticut.
    Robert was honest and very handsome,
    Andrew was not honest and not a stunner.

    Very strange. and interesting too.

    THE TWO Mr. KISSELS - video

    http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/vid...4840F8FD89CC90
    Last edited by songline; 02-15-2010 at 12:02 PM.
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    Thanks songline for the updates.

    Lifetime did a movie about the Kissels. I also purchased a book about the case that I still haven't read. IIRC I saw a story on the Kissel family on 48 Hours or one of the mystery related news shows. I just couldn't believe that NK murdered Robert. How horrific. I was quite stunned that Andrew was murdered too and by the accounts of how different each brother was from one another.

    In your opinion (or anyone else who'd like to chime in) do you feel NK murdered Robert in self defense? I tend to doubt 'self defense' when someone hides the body as she did. JMO.
    Last edited by Boyz_Mum; 02-15-2010 at 12:32 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boyz_Mum View Post
    Thanks songline for the updates.

    Lifetime did a movie about the Kissels. I also purchased a book about the case that I still haven't read. IIRC I saw a story on the Kissel family on 48 Hours or one of the mystery related news shows. I just couldn't believe that NK murdered Robert. How horrific. I was quite stunned that Andrew was murdered too and by the accounts of how different each brother was from one another.

    In your opinion (or anyone else who'd like to chime in) do you feel NK murdered Robert in self defense? I tend to doubt 'self defense' when someone hides the body as she did. JMO.
    Well knowing them...After the shock wore off...I read everything I could. No I did not buy the book I know the story too well. IMHO she DID murder him.

    I found out because Robert old friends remained in the building and immediately rang my door bell to tell me.
    At first I was following this story on a HK paper on the internet.

    At first I thought because I did know him, that he was controlling that she did not know what else to do.
    (don't forget he was our Treasurer, so we did have meetings, and run into each other, and have an occasional glass of wine together too) I can still see them in my mind's eye...they were young and stunning couple then.
    But I thought back long and hard - WHY... She admitted it, she also rolled him up in a rug and hid him
    in the basement storage room. her BS story about him being abusive came later in the trial (guess she had time to concoct something)
    I do not think the retrial is about anything other then maybe the first trial was not handles as best as it should have been, but not because the verdict was wrong.

    Robert was so smittened by her that she can tell him the sky was purple and he would echo her words...YES honey the sky is definitely purple.
    I remember when they renovated their apartment, (he had carpenter skills - he was a real talent of a guy) she was an artist and together they did a really nice job.
    All she had to do was look at a flower and she would get 2 dozen of them. If you can get the picture.
    YES he was controlling but she had him under control, totally and completely.

    I think when Robert sent her with their 3 children back to the US to protect his family from SARS; When she met that TV repair man and wanted that, Nancy got what Nancy wanted.
    But, Robert was the smart one and he had a feel for things... and he had a PI on her tail she no longer could run the show she was busted and that did it.
    She gave her kid the milk shake to give to him common... that is premeditated.
    - he suspected but did not want to believe that she was trying to poison him...He ate out all the time.
    HE never suspected the child...Who gave him a milk shake that mom fixed.
    NANCY DID MURDER HIM. IMHO
    But by that time I no longer had contact with them and I do not know them while they were gone.
    Do people change that much? I do not think so....She went after all that he did have to offer. He was also the Romantic type, competitive, but not evil.

    she is going after technicality not innocence. I can not imagine her go for innocence.
    She tried to impress the jury that he was violent with her sexually...That would be hard for me to buy.
    In fact I am not buying that.

    When they left NY the first time; Nancy was in the lobby with her first born who was about a year or more in age, She told me they were going to London, they obviously returned to another address.
    By then they had 2 girls; the interview with a neighbor is at their other NY address.
    The interview with his friends is at my address, I know those guys too.
    Last edited by songline; 02-15-2010 at 03:58 PM.
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    I've read multiple articles about the Kissels; what an intriguiging case. Songline, you have no problem believing she is guilty of murder. Even though you weren't close with the family, you do have insight. Looking back, was there a power struggle between them? I mean, he was possibly controlling but adored her & maybe she used that & stretched it to the limit? At home in social settings was their demeanor very different than business meetings re your building? Pick your brain for memories you can relate to us....... I remember thinking their father, Mr K Sr, came across as a really nice guy. Do you think $18M inheritance was the attraction for the rest of the family's competition to raise the children? When they moved to HK, did they keep the NY apartment? Tell us everything!

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    So....what hearsay evidence are they talking about?
    IMO

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