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    Will the players get out of these charges?

    In criminal law, entrapment is when a law enforcement agent induces a person to commit an offense which the person would otherwise have been unlikely to commit.[1] In many jurisdictions, entrapment is a possible defense against criminal liability.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entrapment

    I fear that if they get off of these charges than we will never no what happened to Haleigh. I doubt any of them are stupid enough to get in trouble like this again. So this may be the only shot at breaking the players here. So I want to discuss possible ways that they COULD get out this.

    I already see this as their defense. Misty was practically screaming this in the jailhouse tape, that the UA kept harassing her to get him some and she finally did. That he approached her not her approaching him.
    Now Entrapment states that the person would not have committed the illegal act if LE had not caused them to.
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    This will be a lesson in not bashing on my part.

    Honestly, who is going to believe Misty when she goes to court and says she was harassed into buying drugs? She isn't an honest person.

    On a more serious note, looking at the UC videos, she doesn't appear to have a gun pointed at her head either.

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    You are right Kim, however the burden lies on the prosecution, and I beleive that they have to show that she approached them, but I am not sure. I'm a mother of 3 not a lawyer but I think thats how it works.

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    You are right Kim, however the burden lies on the prosecution, and I beleive that they have to show that she approached them, but I am not sure. I'm a mother of 3 not a lawyer but I think thats how it works.
    We need an attorney in Haleigh's forum! The law isn't my forte either.

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    I don't know about walking away from these charges, but I do think they'll get knocked way down, & called something else. I haven't seen any kind of record for Misty, & Ron seems to have gotten out of his earlier charges, so, it looks like they'll walk into court with clean slates. & if they can each find a jury that doesn't watch the news, they might even feel sorry for them. I'm not questioning LE'S motivation or Florida law, but from what I've read on this drug case, I tend to lean towards entrapment. But I'm sure LE is ready to prove their case, so I'll just wait & see.

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    This may seem stupid, but I hope neither of them try to use the "Haleigh" card. Like they had to resort to selling drugs to raise money to look for her. I have not watched all the videos, and I have certainly not read all the threads, and I don't know how the law works, (so basically my posts are useless ), but it was the first thing that came into my head when thinking of ways they would try to explain/get off of any charges..

    Edit to add-- Misty has already seemed to go that way, with her saying that she was only arrested in hopes that she would give up information on Haleigh. (paraphrasing)
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    UC's are used all the time. It's not entrapment. Ron and Co. want you to believe that they are "special" and therefore common police procedure should not be used on them, lol, but I don't think that's gonna werk this time.
    If there's hink....there must be stink.

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    Quote Originally Posted by butterfly1978 View Post
    You are right Kim, however the burden lies on the prosecution, and I beleive that they have to show that she approached them, but I am not sure. I'm a mother of 3 not a lawyer but I think thats how it works.
    Tommy has already filled us in on this part. Misty came to him to get some pills for some guy, and that's why Tommy was busted. Misty and Ron seemed equally involved in the car videos. Ron's culpability comes in him explaining that he doesn't want the UC to tell anyone he's dealing drugs because of his daughter. Legally, that is not entrapment; that's called stupidity on any level. Ron's ego took him down, plain and simple. It was another way to make money without working, and we know he's drawn to that like bees to honey.
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    Misty and Tommy have already admitted the deals on tape. Ron is clearly dealing in the one tape we see. I don't think they will get off, I do think they will get less time than we would like. But I see them all going to prison for some time, that is; if there is a God in this Universe.

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    He's actually counting out pills in one of those clips. "one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight.........."


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    I don't believe they will get out of these charges, but they will get some charges dropped probally to a lessor charges

    Misty does not have a record to my knowledge so it is a first time offense, Ron on the other hand has had numerous issues all in which were either pled down or dismissed this is not his first rodeo with LE and drugs so good luck there Ronny.

    Tommy, is well .... he needs some tall boots to wade through his stuff so I am not so sure about him he was already out on bond when he got picked up.

    Donna I think will be the one to get the lessor time out of all of them unless she is proved to be a supplier, I also think she will be the one singing as much as she can I do not see her as being one to keep her mouth shut.

    They all are going to do time I just don't know how much, they will not be walking away from any of this in mho....

    There is no way they are going to prove entrapment here, Misty can whine all she want's. She is not very credible and it is not like he made her do it she had a choice to either do it or not, they all did. In what we had seen of these videos she looked pretty chummy with the UA especially when Ronny boy wasn't in the vehicle...all I can say is good luck to them all and lets hope somewhere in this mess it will lead to Haleigh...

    One more thing did you all notice that other guy sitting in the back seat with Ronny ..I wonder who that is ? The clip was so short I could not make out his face
    What lies behind you and what lies in front of you pales in comparison to what lies inside of you....
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    Quote Originally Posted by tehcloser View Post
    UC's are used all the time. It's not entrapment. Ron and Co. want you to believe that they are "special" and therefore common police procedure should not be used on them, lol, but I don't think that's gonna werk this time.
    You are absolutely correct. Doesn't matter who approached whom, the deals were done, they have it on tape, not just once but several times. There is no way it won't hold up in court.
    It's like when they use an undercover "hooker" to bust a guy for solicitation. The UC approaches him... but he is the one that goes to jail. He took the bait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by butterfly1978 View Post
    In criminal law, entrapment is when a law enforcement agent induces a person to commit an offense which the person would otherwise have been unlikely to commit.
    personally i think the key here is "induces a person to commit an offense which the person would otherwise have been unlikely to commit".

    ask me to go get you some roxies and i dont' care who you are or how many times you ask, the answer is no. mainly because i don't even know what they are or where i would begin to look for them. so just the fact that they knew how and where tells me they would have done it anyway. as for the guy continuing to approach her, there is this little thing we have these days called the ignore button on the phone and "tell them i ain't home" when they come to the door if you really don't want to be bothered. so i don't see a good defense here. but that could just be the old woman coming out in me.
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    IMO, Ronald and Misty were caught on video and cannot deny what is on the video. I agree that they will most likely not do as much time as we would like to see them do, tho. I also do not see how any drug transactions caught on video could be dropped.

    There are sentencing guidelines in place. The judge cannot just ignore them. As there is a mandatory minimum, the judge will have to follow it, IMO.
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    I think Tommy will get off pretty light; I think RC will do some time; and unless Misty tells them what happened February 9, 2009, she's going to do time also.

    IMO, Misty has all the bargaining power. Even so, I'm not sure it's enough to get her completely out of the charges.

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