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    Omaha Double Murder #2

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    [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67963"]Thread 1[/ame]


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    :Welcome-12-june: to mymomshirlee and krl15182819. It is good to see you here. We have many sleuths here that are very interested in seeing JUSTICE for Shirlee and Thomas.

    mymomshirlee and krl15182819 - Websleuths has a policy of asking any of our post, that post as a family member or someone with a close tie to the crime/victim, to contact the forum owner, Tricia, and let her know that you are posting here. You can reach Tricia at: Tricia Griffith
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    All you need to do is send her a quick email and let her know which case you are associated with and Tricia will take it from there.

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    I am mainly a lurker on this thread but I have to say I find it very odd the Hunters have not reached out to Shirlee's family. Did they attend her funeral? I cannot recall. I wonder if they blame her for their son's death ( I am not saying that is justified) either because she let this person in the house or because they think she was the target and their son was an innocent bystander. Personally I have always felt like it was the other way around.

    It is very nice to have members of Shirlee's family posting her and giving her a voice. Please don't be offended by things which have been posted here. At Websleuths we try to analyze a case from every different angle that can be thought of. I think Shirlee sounds like she was a caring, genuine and special woman and I sincerely hope her murderer will be caught someday.
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    I don't really follow this thread - but find the discussion of Shirlee letting the person in the house interesting. My thought is - if in fact Shirlee let the perp in the house, is it because he had a gun? He showed it to Shirlee but the neighbor could not see it?

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    Salem,

    As the originator of the original thread I was just wondering, why the second one? Is there a limit on the number of posts one thread can have? Just wondering and appreciate your efforts.
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    Welcome to mymomshirlee and krl15182819! I am pleased that you have joined us.

    Please accept my sincerest condolences on the tragic loss of your mom. When I saw her picture, my first thought was what beautiful and kind eyes she has. Just wanted you to know that.

    Please know that we have sleuthed many angles here. Some content is unpoplular or controversial (you probably know what I mean if you've read the whole thread) and we mean no disrespect. It is just the unpleasant side of sleuthing.

    Please know that if I or anyone asks questions that you are unable to answer for whatever reason please just say so. No pressure. But please do notify Tricia as has been asked so she can verify your identity.

    WS has recently received praise from LEA's in two separate cases that our sleuths have helped solve. We want to see Justice for Shirlee and Tom so please hang in there with us.

    I can't to pretend to imagine the hurt and pain of losing Shirlee in such a brutal manner and my heart goes out to you for your loss. I (we) only want to help and have genuinly good intentions.

    I am glad that you both have joined us. If you have any questions, just ask. We are here to help.

    Peace be with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gaia227 View Post
    I am mainly a lurker on this thread but I have to say I find it very odd the Hunters have not reached out to Shirlee's family. Did they attend her funeral? I cannot recall. I wonder if they blame her for their son's death ( I am not saying that is justified) either because she let this person in the house or because they think she was the target and their son was an innocent bystander. Personally I have always felt like it was the other way around.

    It is very nice to have members of Shirlee's family posting her and giving her a voice. Please don't be offended by things which have been posted here. At Websleuths we try to analyze a case from every different angle that can be thought of. I think Shirlee sounds like she was a caring, genuine and special woman and I sincerely hope her murderer will be caught someday.
    Hi gaia, I could be mistaken and need to look for a link but to the best of my recollection, both Tom and Shirlee's funerals were scheduled on the same day and time but at different locations. I thought this was a bit odd but considered that perhaps LE asked for the funerals to be held simultaneously so they could scope out the services separately for a suspect. This was the only reason I could imagine for this. It seems if Shirlee worked for the Hunters for 15 years as mymomshirlee has stated that the families would wish to mourn together. Perhaps mms can shed light on why/how this decision was made as I know others besides myself was curious why/how this occured.

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    mymomshirlee and krl15182819: I have contacted a moderator and you are both now enabled to send and receive private messages, out of the sight of persons viewing the board. I may contact either or both of you via this method in the next few days. We are very glad you joined us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snick1946 View Post
    Salem,

    As the originator of the original thread I was just wondering, why the second one? Is there a limit on the number of posts one thread can have? Just wondering and appreciate your efforts.

    I was wondering the same thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Salem View Post
    I don't really follow this thread - but find the discussion of Shirlee letting the person in the house interesting. My thought is - if in fact Shirlee let the perp in the house, is it because he had a gun? He showed it to Shirlee but the neighbor could not see it?

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    ...that's the way I've always figured he gained entry into the home....


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    welcome mms and krl....

    I am so sorry for your loss....and am so glad that you two are here on Shirlee's behalf. I, too, feel that it's unthinkable the Hunters did not reach out to your family or express sympathy, especially with both families sharing grief through this horrible event. How odd that they would react in that manner.....I don't get it and probably never will.

    One thing I have wondered about and I don't think it was ever clarified earlier....was Shirlee supposed to be at work at the Hunters' on that day? Or was she there covering due to Mrs. Hunter being out of town, Hawaii, I believe (?), when this occurred?

    Thank you so much for joining us here.


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    I don't know how some neighbor could tell who opened the door the day of the murders unless they had binoculars zoned in on the doorway. Since there was a half eaten sandwich on the dining room table, I've always felt like Thomas had put his game on pause to come upstairs and eat the sandwich. If so, he would have been in the dining room and would most likely have been the one to open the door. After all, he lived there and I don't think he would wait for the housekeeper to come and open the front door. He may have even been expecting someone to bring something by that afternoon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YellowDog View Post
    I don't know how some neighbor could tell who opened the door the day of the murders unless they had binoculars zoned in on the doorway. Since there was a half eaten sandwich on the dining room table, I've always felt like Thomas had put his game on pause to come upstairs and eat the sandwich. If so, he would have been in the dining room and would most likely have been the one to open the door. After all, he lived there and I don't think he would wait for the housekeeper to come and open the front door. He may have even been expecting someone to bring something by that afternoon.
    That's an excellent point Yellowdog. If Shirlee's family claim that under no circumstances would she open the door at a client's house, then it would seem logical that Tommy would have answered the door. The half-eaten sandwich is consistent with that scenario, although not proof by any means.


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    Quote Originally Posted by po boy View Post
    That's an excellent point Yellowdog. If Shirlee's family claim that under no circumstances would she open the door at a client's house, then it would seem logical that Tommy would have answered the door. The half-eaten sandwich is consistent with that scenario, although not proof by any means.

    This of course brings up the possibility that Tommy was expecting someone. Most kids, mine included, prefer to eat their snacks while on their video game or watching TV which in this case was in the basement.
    Given the family statements re Shirlee's policy of caution, it would fit that Tommy opened the door. If this was a hired killer he probably couldn't believe his luck!
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    Of course we're all surmising that the killer was the man in the SUV who entered the front door. The killer could have actually entered through the side door or the back door and exited the same way. I'm still not convinced that LE shouldn't be looking in the neighborhood for their killer. Thomas could have even taken a schoolmate home from school with him and it could have been a jealousy thing over possessions or something like that.
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